MDMA + Mesc HCl

[melange]

whatever you say harry potter

 

[SKL]

The people that define crazy base it on their own logic of what is "normal" - to be perfectly honest in the minds of just about all of society outside of our psychedelic scene, they would lock all of us up.

There is no "our" psychedelic scene.

You and I are not in the same psychedelic scene.

What you are in is lunacy.

 

[nopipesdfw]

Being an Indigo is more of a curse than anything. And yes, anyone can develop those abilities. I started meditating - full blown transcendental meditation - when I was 10.

Anything in life takes work. You can't sit there and take a drug and have everything open up and then expect that it sticks. .

We are actually on the same page on that besides why telepathy seems to work, but I already do meditate, albeit not daily.

 

[greenberryhaze]

How about giving the money to charity, would that strain you karma?

 

[nopipesdfw]

Ah but collecting that million dollars would strain karma - there is a big difference between manifesting a new job, a new relationship, improving an existing relationship, healing others, etc., than directly influencing the energy of the universe to greedily benefit yourself. It is a fine line. I could send that energy out there and collect that million dollars - but the fact is, it has to come from somewhere. Had I not sent out that energy, some cancer patient that doesn't have insurance could have lived instead of died.

The "somebody else" delusion you hold is strange here.

I have made some money in the past selling psychedelic drugs of whom I loved the source and the content of the precursors at hand, I was not robbing cancer patients, but a general economy of which I was aware of.

Reality works without the magic channeling, stack it on top of seemingly real shit and spot the sum!

Sitting around channeling universal energy whose definition is not being agreed upon between people who believe in such a thing whilst planning on doing nothing with it besides channeling it within yourself is what I would call the misnomer of catatonic schizophrenia.

How about giving the money to charity, would that strain you karma?

I was about to say, I have none of a decent amount of money that I used to make from. I dosed a ton of people that I knew that seemed to not be off the hinge, bought and did some drugs (I am a PD'er, not a politician!), actually bought a lot of people personal gifts and donated just a little (not a lot) to charity.

I killed the cancer patient!

Seriously, if you can land a million without doing anything and without a will to do much with your own life, you would be a big potential dick in my book for not doing so!

 

[MagickalKat777]

This is fucking hilarious. A bunch of hardcore drug addicts telling me that I need to slow down while they're probably doped to high heaven themselves.

I agree with LHG and DF - BL has become nothing but a bunch of closed-minded polydrug addicts that make themselves feel better about their own drug abuse by belittling those that are nowhere even close. Its pathetic really. There are more addicts on here than probably anywhere else on the web and it is unfortunate. Bluelight used to be an entirely different scene. Guess that's what happens when you toss a bunch of heroin addicts, meth addicts, coke addicts, and psychedelic abusers all in the same forum.

Instead of trying to be helpful, all anyone does is ridicule. Its sad, really. I've seen more harm reduction on LHG in a week than I've seen on here in a month - at least without the usual snarky remarks about how fucking retarded that person is for even considering such a thing - but giving no advice on how to reduce harm.

Everyone is worried about my mental state? Are you serious? I went to the doc today. He was so impressed with how much better I'm doing since he saw me last week that he no longer wants to put me in the hospital - he just wants me to gain some weight.

I love the judgment that people so willingly pass here when they really do not know the people in real life.

With this, I make my PD and BL exit. I won't come back until the attitudes of people change. I understand that there is general concern and I appreciate and respect that but the ridicule is not necessary especially when the people doing the ridicule are either battling an addiction (which by the way, I have none), are high as hell and posting out of their asses, or just really want to be total elitist assholes with the attitude of "if I can't have that experience then you are just insane for having it"

Talk about the complete reverse of what psychedelics are truly about.

 

[nopipesdfw]

I am high as hell and about to do DXM. What about it? My schedule of dosing is ridiculous in most peoples eyes, maybe it is.

Now what are you trying to prove with that post?

If you get your shit done and don't seriously concern people (dude, I am nearly in the same boat as you on just about everything at hand, but I have heard you say some really familiar dangerous toned shit), the "shocking" things that people do behind closed doors bear less relevance than the first two.

When I'm not posting here I am probably high on marijuana or a JWH-XXX and weekends, sometimes weekdays include trips. Am I a nut? In plenty of peoples eyes for all kinds of reasons, yeah.

I have been called a nut (in a serious tone) less times in real life when discussing out there things than you probably have had in this entire thread.

I have done thousands of whippets, so much DXM, these are generally not healthy things and if my psych is about to explode I deserve a heads up!

 

[SKL]

The fact that you feel that you could speak to what psychedelics are really about is incredibly pretentious and laughable.

and there from bluelight departs a huge ego...

 

[nopipesdfw]

Talk about the complete reverse of what psychedelics are truly about.

Oneness, unity, coexistence exactly how you and others want it!

I always saw these as present themes of psychedelia throughout everybody even as a little god-hater. What the man above me said on defining psychedelia, this is my best and things I am guessing people here aren't about to object to.

Harvesting the collective that you speak of to brag, empower, or put you on a higher plane than others seemingly forever has not been shown to be realistic to me which is why I think if I asked your doctor or some that you claim of this they would go "..... what the fuck?"

Seriously, ask your doctor straightforwardly about his acknowledgment of your telepathy if you think it's appropriate to say it to whoever and it really was working and there was no gray interpretation between you two that is oh so common from different raisings.

 

[DwayneHoover]

You're totally certifiable.

A forum full of drug addicts is telling you to lay off the drugs.

That should tell you something.

8(

Man, I think all this telling MK777 to get lost is pretty foul. If you genuinely feel he is endangering himself, do you really think calling him juvenile names and hurling insults is a wise approach to dealing with someone as on-the-edge as you say you think he is?

So he has a radically divergent set of interpretations and views about the world. So the fuck what? MAN, YOU ARE ON AN OPEN WORLDWIDE GROUP FOR THE DISCUSSION OF USING PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS! WHAT THE FUCK EXACTLY DO YOU EXPECT.... MAYBERRY RFD??? Of course there's gonna be people with "out there" beliefs! If it bugs you so much, maybe YOU ought to be the one to get lost.

Jesus H. Christ. Don't chase him away, I enjoy his "unusuality". If you think he needs "help" then try to talk him into it... spitting on him is pretty dumbfuck.

When my partner suddenly got ill and died in the space of 3 weeks about 10 years ago, at first I was utterly devastated. But then a friend (actually Terry's buddy [mainly straight] in some fairly extreme drug use and experiments in Magick back in high school and early college), contrary to all "proper" advice, convinced me to take several strong mushroom trips with him.

During the trips we BOTH experienced some simultaneous "contact" (yes with the deceased) events that were NOT just a result of the drugs... we didnt even admit them to each other till weeks later. I subsequently experienced other totally improbably, frequent, repeated synchronicities IN THE REAL WORLD witnessed by multiple people at once, who were left with jaws on the floor, all associated with some rather "out there" ideas, that, as a devotee of science (and a software engineer) I would NEVER have believed... all connected to events that happened around and within the months after Terry T.'s death, and somehow synergized by those shroom trips. I was NOT and AM NOT insane, and these things seemed VERY impossible to me and others, YET THEY OCCURED while everyone was totally straight and non-drugged, amongst a quite sane group of sensible rational professionals.

As Shakespere wrote in Hamlet:

"There are more things on Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than exist in your philosophy."

 

[nopipesdfw]

I never told him to go away, some of my tones in these posts were definitely harsh at points, probably flared by hearing so similar things that lead to death and tarnished the reputation of psychedelics of pretty much everybody in my bloodline. Is that a good thing? Maybe, but my uncle dying probably didn't help as much as that little snippet.

During the trips we BOTH experienced some simultaneous "contact" (yes with the deceased) events that were NOT just a result of the drugs... we didnt even admit them to each other till weeks later. I subsequently experienced other totally improbably, frequent, repeated synchronicities IN THE REAL WORLD witnessed by multiple people at once, who were left with jaws on the floor, all associated with some rather "out there" ideas, that, as a devotee of science (and a software engineer) I would NEVER have believed... all connected to events that happened around and within the months after Terry T.'s death, and somehow synergized by those shroom trips. I was NOT and AM NOT insane, and these things seemed VERY impossible to me and others, YET THEY OCCURED while everyone was totally straight and non-drugged, amongst a quite sane group of sensible rational professionals.

I'm not saying telepathy is fake, now you are onto what I am here. However, I gotta call bull on being able to telepathically channel a million dollars in material power due to it's attachments in our world even if you are the godhead. (I mean the whole godhead, the whole universe, that's hard to make a million bucks slip by for a nice little boy lol!)

 

[SKL]

I'm not trying to be hurtful here this dude needs real talk, not coddling. He doesn't need to talk about how his delusions might be possible, or are interesting, he needs to know that they are delusions. He'll get no support in his delusionality from me, nor in his drug use. Unstable people should not be taking psychedelics. It will make them worse, spin them further into their inner chaos. He's not here to engage in a meaningful dialogue but rather to try and reinforce his own crazy ideas. This is not the place.

 

[nopipesdfw]

I'm not trying to be hurtful here this dude needs real talk, not coddling. He doesn't need to talk about how his delusions might be possible, or are interesting, he needs to know that they are delusions. He'll get no support in his delusionality from me, nor in his drug use. Unstable people should not be taking psychedelics. It will make them worse, spin them further into their inner chaos. He's not here to engage in a meaningful dialogue but rather to try and reinforce his own crazy ideas. This is not the place.

Fair enough.

Magickalkat, if polydrug use is what deludes consciousness... do you want me to list some of my combos that I have kept off here because most would find them sickening in the name of harm reduction?

The drugs (molecules) aren't fully sending anybody wrong, neither are any number of variables regarding them that you could really pinpoint, an unhealthy psych just sticks out like a sore thumb when an average PD psych is currently near the fringe.

EDIT:

Magickalkat, don't actually leave or stop talking regardless of what whoever says, even mods. (Obviously try to keep it appropriate, things mods like!)

I want to see if mescaline, MDMA, and M1 are really your trinity to the holy grail from this point on.

Same with having a boyfriend and your main sexual orientation. (No hating, I have a friend who is gay as hell and I have been hit on quite a bit in awkward situations at clubs, no thanks no biggie.)

 

[DwayneHoover]

Still, if what you think he needs is help, then maybe its better to keep him around and just sorta not let his irrationality as you see it, turn you into a screeching banshee, or snarling pitbull, drooling with revulsion, stamping your feet and pointing to the door. Just keep calmly maybe poking fun at things he says that you feel are outrageous (I thought the 2012 cartoon was GREAT and PERFECT), pointing out your divergence with his thinking, and keep trying to talk him into sense (the line about "attracting more ~whatever~ with honey than with vinegar" comes to mind) instead of telling him quite litterally to take a hike.

I mean REALLY!

If it's not against the member rules to insist that someone "GO AWAY! LEAVE! GET OUT! YOU ARE NOT WANTED! FUCK OFF! GO AWAY!" as you basically did here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8898042&postcount=87 then it should be. That was totally beyond the pale, man... just utterly revoltingly uncivil and cruel. Who the hell do you think you are?

You don't speak for me and I hope not for alot of people.

"SomeKindaLove"... yea... "Some Kinda" is probably the right way to describe your sort of "Love".

 

[nopipesdfw]

If Teo has been allowed so many times (I eventually tried to be nice to him when I talked, but all that guy literally did was take "NO SHIT!" information about plants from the internet, rewrite it himself, then trash everybody with his supreme knowledge), I want to hear your shit.

 

[SKL]

In the post where I stated, take your weak shit ..., etc., I was pointing him, in a satirical way, to places where the things he was posted might be taken more seriously than here, not asking the guy himself to leave. (Cause, hey, there really are people who want to hear that kind of crap, Danny Pinchbeck is making a lot of money spouting psychedelic-tinged New Age nonsense, and a lot of people made a lot of money spouting various sorts of New Age nonsense before him. hopefully the furor will die down in 2012, but remember what happened to the Millerites ... but i digress.)

But once he double posted that flounce of his and began speaking about how he knew what psychedelics were really about, trashed bluelight generally, and called us a bunch of drug addicts, and got up on that high and mighty horse of his, then I really do think it is time for him to step off.

I've been totally delusional from binging on drugs before, and unfortunately, I was around a lot of people who were overly credulous and accepting and made me think I was okay. I wasn't. I could've used some harsh words to reorient me to reality.

 

[Psychonautical]

I'm on MagicalKats side, straight up, it's his choice,
In my mind, he is still forming rational thought.
Out of everything he is stating it's not like he's saying he's
Rainbow Jesus here to save us all from our sins.
I've thought it, you've thought it, we've all thought we were the savoir or something at some point.

2c-e does this to me especially. Which is why i don't take it very often.
i'd done Ketamine LSD and MDMA before, many times.


All MagicalKat needs to do in my opinion, is just find a balance a harmony for his drug use. A Couple times a month rather than a lot of times a month.

If he was spouting off total and complete gibberish than i think we would know exactly what it is to do. But fundementally a lot of his posts still contain a large amount of well thought out and well discussed ideas involving the nature of reality and how much control it actually is we have.

Now i know my 2c-e experiences for me, brought me to the conclusion that each and every one of us is god, we are all the divine masters of our own reality. We shape our lives, not destiny not god, we are the only things in direct control of our existence that we know of. I think coming to terms with that while under the influence of a psychedelic is something that would be quite moving. At least it was for me, and i probably interpreted it as "i am god" and it was a feeling i chased. It doesn't need to be chased. You are what you is.

MagicalKat you sound like my friends, you sound like someone i would enjoy tripping with. For the most part. You sound like you have your head screwed on tighter than most of these Drone and Benzo Fury Addicts clamoring for the serotonergic release.

*tips his hat* Trip on Fare Tripper, but only with diligence.

 

[SKL]

"SomeKindaLove"... yea... "Some Kinda" is probably the right way to describe your sort of "Love".

In this case, the tough kind.

This kid needs to hear that he's on a bad path, because he is.

And all the better that he hear it from me, who was once on that same path. You could read more about it if you go far back into my post history.

 

[Delsyd]

I agree with LHG and DF - BL has become nothing but a bunch of closed-minded polydrug addicts that make themselves feel better about their own drug abuse by belittling those that are nowhere even close.

dont bring that shit here.
we dont talk down on other drug forums here.
if they talk down on us then

if you prefer it there thats where you should post
im closing this thread as its nothing but bullshit and bickering.