Heroin/Meth Users, I have a Question for You

[motiv311]

If your going to do them... do them both .. at the same time. lol

 

[Sweet P]

^ Last time I checked, this was a harm reduction site.

 

[Aok]

I don't think the OP has ever come back to see the answers to the question she asked.
No comments...... no follow up......nothin'!


Hmph!/stomps away

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

"I've been watching Sober House. After the guy from Alice in Chains was finally becoming normal, they stopped his suboxone. Now he's back to being angry and mean. If it was doing good things for him, why'd they take it away? Makes no sense."

Haha I watch that show too, I know at the beginning of the "Celebrity Rehab" series Dr. Drew pretty much said that noone should get suboxone or methadone and thats just cheating the system and enabling your addiction.....a popular stance among how shall I say right wing MD's.

Black and White no gray, You take no pills your clean I win problem solved

You still Take Pills---- Your still a junky

"What about your antidepressants doc"

Thats different you need those to function

How do I not need my suboxone to function..

end conversation.

 

[Aok]

I like Sober House.... I just wish it would get a little more exciting. Since they kicked out that psycho bitch, it's kinda boring. She should get her own show...Psycho House.

 

[LivingOnValium]

If you enjoyd your e's before there's a good chance you'll enjoy meth as well. It's also a very good drug for partys and clubbing. It makes social situations and chatting with people you might not know so well easy and enjoyble and the same goes for dancing. On top of this it provides a strong euphoria and confidence even though it's feel and euphoria are very different to e's.

However not everyone who likes MDMA doesn't like meth/amphetamines.

Not everyone agrees with me but IMO with heroin severe addictions developes faster.

 

[MidnightBaby]

All the reasons for staying away from Heroin and Meth have been said. I just want to say this -

You start heavy drugs absolutely convinced that it will not happen to you, BUT IT DOES. Somehow it really does happen to you, no matter who you are.







.

 

[unsettled]

Kinda off topic, but I've been watching that Sober House show too and I was also wondering why they don't allow the long term opiate addicts to just stay on their suboxone or methadone, all my ex heroin addict friends have been on subs for years and they'd probably go back to heroin or something else if it was cut off. It just doesn't make alot of sense to me if they'll give them anti depressants but not subs.

I mean I understand Dr Drew's theory about why, I guess I just don't agree with it. I'd think they would have a better chance of "living clean" if they could just stay on a low dose of sub for as long as they needed to.

 

[castoutbySociety]

I would UNEQUIVACABLY (spelling lol) tell you NOT to do it man. I have been shooting up dope for the past 2 years almost and am currently trying to kick/taper off using prescription pain medication...at this point it takes me around 2 hours to find a vein because so many of mine are completely destroyed...dont make the mistake i did my man...i would not wish opiate dependance/addiction ESPECIALLY heroin on my worst enemy..you think withdrawal from oxycontin is bad man...WOAH your in for a shocker. Heroin withdrawal can feel like dying. My advice stick to other drugs like pot and alcohol and experiment with psychadelics....the other end of the spectrum is nothing but bad. Heroin is known as one of the most addictive substances out there for a reason my man. Be safe.

 

[Tina Dopemau5]

Being someone who has been dependent on both meth and heroin at various points in time, as well as someone who has done a tremendous amount of research on drugs I would say that heroin is all around less harmful then meth. Long term regular use of meth can cause damage to every organ in your body. It is second only to alcohol as far as the physical damage it can cause.

Pure unadulterated heroin causes virtually no physical harm to the body except if one overdoses, or one is an IV user. Both heroin and meth are EXTREMELY habit forming, and addiction to anything can cause ppl to do terrible things to continue their habit.

If you are hell bent on trying one of these drugs I would go with heroin and I would recommend snorting it. Please don't ever inject any drug. I started shooting drugs 7 years ago and I am more addicted to the needle then to any particular drug.

heroin to me seems like it would be fine to do on occasion(hence why its used/was used in medicine) but meth.. na that shit seems to pretty much brain damage anyone who touches it.

@moonyham: methamphetamine is also used in medicine. It is sold under the brand name Desoxyn and is used to treat narcolepsy, ADHD, and aid weight loss.

 

[littlesparkle]

my first experience of heroin was IV,at 15 years old.IV meth at 16.im sure you are old enough,in my opinion...heroin is gentler on you.no comedown.if you are certain to do one then dont do meth...trust me.if theres more you will do more its so thrilling and jumpie u will keep doing then you get like many days wtihout real food and sleep...then feels like shit.heroin dosent have any comedown.make sure you have experienced users around you whatever it is and put a LITTLE.have someone guide you.take care!by the way im 17 and doing meth weekly.and heroin whenever its available.she is OLD ENOUGH

 

[†∆†]

it's really not worth it, as great as i feel when i'm on different drugs, i honest to god wish i had never tried any drugs because even if you don't become a hardcore addict, for the rest of your life the greatness of the experience will be in the back of your mind, and there will be a voice reminding you how great you felt and it will make going out feel unfulfilling

 

[kurt_cocaine]

"I've been watching Sober House. After the guy from Alice in Chains was finally becoming normal, they stopped his suboxone. Now he's back to being angry and mean. If it was doing good things for him, why'd they take it away? Makes no sense."

Haha I watch that show too, I know at the beginning of the "Celebrity Rehab" series Dr. Drew pretty much said that noone should get suboxone or methadone and thats just cheating the system and enabling your addiction.....a popular stance among how shall I say right wing MD's.

Black and White no gray, You take no pills your clean I win problem solved

You still Take Pills---- Your still a junky

"What about your antidepressants doc"

Thats different you need those to function

How do I not need my suboxone to function..

end conversation.

Mike Starr, the alice in chains guy, was on suboxone before the show. The reason they didnt give it to him is because he was abusing it via IM injection to get a buzz. At the rehab I was in there was a guy whos DOC was IVed Subutex. They refused to give it to him, even though the rest of us junkies got it. They didnt even taper him down.

 

[DeLee]

I was using a lot of street Amphetamine powder (not meth nor adderal and such crap just nice european street amphetamine)
I started shooting up the amph, it was the first drug I IVe'd and i was hooked..the rush...the feeling. All of it!

I had never tried Heroin back then, one day I got myself .5grams of white powder heroin and IVe'd it and it was AMAZING! Words can't describe.
After that 1 fix of heroin I was hooked and the following 10-15 years I shot Heroin dayly, really big day dosage ~1gram.

Thank lord im on Suboxone treatment now.

I would advice against you trying heroin, meth/amphetamine though is another story... that thing you actually can mess around with a couple of times and not get a lifelong monkey on your back.

 

[CitioKid]

Trying hard drugs is fun, but most people end up crossing the line of addiction at some point - often within a few weeks to months of recreational use.

And that's a line that you will wish for the rest of your life that you never crossed, because it is very hard to return to normality after an addiction. Very, very hard.

 

[DeMiZe-420-]

Okay lemme just sum up what everyone else is trying to say

Meth - Has the worst affect on your body.. TRYING IT ONCE WILL NOT leave you with permanent brain damage IT WILL HOWEVER, change your outlook on life, my first time trying it i said "FUCK THIS SHIT" but 2 years later, im still doing it...Meth causes damage when done in repeated doses or binges or extremelly high doses.. It actually gives you a sort of hangover, its your bodies way of recovering from a 8hour rush of dopamine.

Heroine - IS THE DEADLIEST..Meth is more harmful, but heroin KILLS, its easier to OD on dogfood than speed, Ive never tried it personally but doing morphine and OC occasionally i can relate to the physical craving for it..

Heroine WD - Leaves you physically ill
Meth WD - Leaves you extremelly depressed, and makes you crave, your mind is telling you "HEY, GET SOME MORE DUDE!"

i choose meth when i was around your age, i like it, but i know how powerful it is, so i know my limits and know when to say no

my best friend tried heroin, and after a while he would IV daily but somehow he got the strength to quit before it got ahold of him, but anytime someone offers him or me or both of us speed its REALLY hard to decline

Ima give the same dr. phil answer as everyone else, neither.
but if you forced me to choose id say meth, cuz it doesnt make you nod on your couch for 4 hours.
its like beefed up coke

 

[HakunaMatataAH]

Meth is a better drug

 

[adubwakka]

Heroin leaves you physically AND mentally fucked up. Meth leaves you just mentally fucked up (withdrawal wise, im not talking about long term damages).


Dont do it, you're still young, and if you absolutely have to do it. Stay away from the spikes.

To the kiddo who is somewhat bragging about doing heroin and meth and you;re only 17.... you have alot to learn young padowan. You should step away and evaluate your life and see if you like the direction its heading. I'm not trying to talk down to you, I'm tryign to give you sincere advice to improve yourself before you wake up years later and realize just how bad you've fucked up. Trust me, it happens to everyone.

 

[violetvisions]

this is what i can say

from actual experience with almost every drug on the block including meth and herion.

STAY AWAY FROM BOTH.

meth may make you look shitty---but in terms of dangeriousness

herion is BY FAR THE DEADLIEST.

people think that just because meth deteriorates your looks it must be worst...

if you take too much herion you can go into cardiac arrest and it changes your entire brain chemistry...it AFFECTS EVERY PART OF YOUR BRAIN AND BODY.

it is EXTREMELY EASY TO OVERDOSE ON HERION VS. METH

not only that meth is extremely easy to pull yourself off of compared to herion.

with herion you will get so sick that you will WISH you are DEAD.

you will spend days over the toilet throwing up, in CONSTANT PAIN, having slow heartbeats--trouble breathing and can go into a coma.

meth users just get a bit crazy mentally after withdrawals...

with herion EVERY PART of you will hurt! the only way for you to STOP this hurt---

is to take MORE herion!

you will forever be chasing your tail in an endless cycle to feel better!

i have been a herion addict for 5 years of my life now

and i have broken EVERY drug including meth cold turkey--yet to this day i still struggle with my herion addiction!

let me tell you something---meth isnt SHIT compared to herion

and coming from years of experience---LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY

STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM HERION

DON'T TOUCH IT---EVER!!

it will consume your life and you will die trying to get out!

i have had 7 of my friends including my own uncle die from it!

be smart and stick to lighter drugs like weed and pure MDMA.

both meth and herion are horrible...

but meth is nothing.

 

[violetvisions]

my first experience of heroin was IV,at 15 years old.IV meth at 16.im sure you are old enough,in my opinion...heroin is gentler on you.no comedown.if you are certain to do one then dont do meth...trust me.if theres more you will do more its so thrilling and jumpie u will keep doing then you get like many days wtihout real food and sleep...then feels like shit.heroin dosent have any comedown.make sure you have experienced users around you whatever it is and put a LITTLE.have someone guide you.take care!by the way im 17 and doing meth weekly.and heroin whenever its available.she is OLD ENOUGH

herion doesn't have a comedown?

are you fucking kidding me?!

herion has THE WORST comedown possible and is also 5X addictive as meth.