The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

[ashtray girl]

I buy 6apn in crystal form and take 150mg and it just blows amt right out of the water. There is NOTHING negative whatsoever its just lovely all the way. And that 150mg works out about £2.30.

The only place I am aware of with 6-apb as a powder charge almost 7 times that amount for 150mg. Almost all reports I've read of the crystal have been describing it as junk, and the sites selling it all seem to sell the same NRG style shit too.

 

[MagickalKat777]

The only place I am aware of with 6-apb as a powder charge almost 7 times that amount for 150mg. Almost all reports I've read of the crystal have been describing it as junk, and the sites selling it all seem to sell the same NRG style shit too.

You're not looking in the right place and that's all I can say about that.

 

[k.kat]

Don't smoke 50mg! 5mg at a time, wait an hour and a half, smoke more if you're not where you want to be...

im sharing it with a mate not smoking it all myself, we going to have 25mg each
think shambles mentioned 15mg being a good smoking amount i will have to go through posts again but im thinking two hits from my 25mg, see im thinking if i felt my 50mg oral dose could have been stronger smoking 25mg may be about the same,

And who exactly are these people? I don't believe they exist


To each his (or her) own.

hard to believe but they do exist,
i have met quite a lot of people that dont like E, especially when they first came on the go when £25 each, i knew a bunch o folk they found them too strong and didnt take them until they were down to £10 and they were less potent, (CRAZY)
the stronger the better ,

just like lots of folk like & take smack, i dont like smack,

yeah thats it,
both myself & scooby mentioned on earlier posts about
everyone having their own pioson, and if everyone was into the same it wouldnt be good,

 

[MagickalKat777]

You're an idiot if you straight up smoke 25mg. Smoked, AMT is so potent that some people feel just 2 or 3mg...

Smoked AMT Dosages
Threshold 2 mg
Light 4 - 5 mg
Common 6 - 10 mg
Strong 10 - 20 mg

Onset : 10 seconds - 30 minutes
Duration : 8 - 12 hours

but hey if you want to be the next statistic, go for it.

 

[General Patton]

Yeah man, maybe break it into a few separate hits, shooting 5mg above the highest recommended strong dose is a textbook way to overdo it. Why not break it up into 10 and 15mg doses, maybe eat one & smoke the other if you're not where you want to be?

 

[k.kat]

You're an idiot if you straight up smoke 25mg. Smoked, AMT is so potent that some people feel just 2 or 3mg...

Smoked AMT Dosages
Threshold 2 mg
Light 4 - 5 mg
Common 6 - 10 mg
Strong 10 - 20 mg

Onset : 10 seconds - 30 minutes
Duration : 8 - 12 hours

but hey if you want to be the next statistic, go for it.

heres the post from shambles below , thought he said 15mg but i got it wrong its over 5mg your heading into trip territory,

I've always smoked it on tinfoil with no problem - works just fine as long as you are familiar with chasing "other things"

Although smoking 1mg of freebase may be active it is only minimally active - to be honest you'd have to be pretty damn sensitive to it to feel much. For me, it starts to become noticeably active at around 5mg when smoked - not a full-blown trip but a definite mood and energy lift for a few hours. When I use it for its antidepressant properties I would generally smoke ~5mg. It is a bit more than an allergy test but it's a fair way below the level of a trip. Once you go over ~5mg you're heading into trip territory so make sure you have a good set of scales

Yeah man, maybe break it into a few separate hits, shooting 5mg above the highest recommended strong dose is a textbook way to overdo it. Why not break it up into 10 and 15mg doses, maybe eat one & smoke the other if you're not where you want to be?

im already splitting it between 2 people so we will have 25mg each
i thought splitting the 25 int two hits of 12 & a half,
but maybe i will split the 12 & a half into two aswell by what magikalkat is saying,

i did a 50mg oral dose last friday although it was good & i enjoyed it i felt it could have been stronger

oh has anyone added ket near the end , good / bad idea ?

 

[MagickalKat777]

Sorry to be so blunt about it but I have had friends go stupid with smoking AMT (and they did it from a base pipe so they got at least 90% of the dose) and they ended up with some of the worst stimulation of their lives and a horrible trip.

I would just smoke it 5-7mg at a time. It comes up so fast when you smoke it anyway that its not worth putting yourself at risk with a huge dose.

As for ket, I think it could go either way but I don't see any safety issues with it.

 

[k.kat]

Sorry to be so blunt about it but I have had friends go stupid with smoking AMT (and they did it from a base pipe so they got at least 90% of the dose) and they ended up with some of the worst stimulation of their lives and a horrible trip.

I would just smoke it 5-7mg at a time. It comes up so fast when you smoke it anyway that its not worth putting yourself at risk with a huge dose.

As for ket, I think it could go either way but I don't see any safety issues with it.

Cool,
i just thought smoking 25mg would be equivalent to boming 50mg
but obviously not,
if its so much stronger smoking & you need so little it a wonder why more folk arent smoking it,
think i will leave the ket & enjoy each on their own,

 

[MagickalKat777]

Because smoking it is more like an amphetamine rush than a psychedelic trip, it lasts just as long, and it still takes a bit to come up for most (though it hit me in 2 minutes)

 

[Lombergerh]

So when smoking AMT produces no visuals, and few psychedelia?
How many mg you smoked?

 

[Psychonautical]

i've always had to smoke fairly large amounts of AMT in order to achieve full effects>
while i would orally consume low doses to achieve +++'s.

While everyone else around me required low smoking doses
and High Oral doses.

Joe my roommate said his niche was 75
Blairs was 65

if i ate more than 30 i thought my chest was going to explode.
But if i smoked like 40. It would be really mellow and relaxing.

 

[JackHereruk]

I am not advising anyone to follow my lead here but i have found i need 100 - 130 mg to get a proper do out of it. Fucking love it though much better than 6APB

 

[Scoobysnacks]

It seems that 50-60 is the sweet spot with this one for whatever reason. I certainly don't remember it being that way back in 2003... I had fun with every dose I took.

yeh, puzzled me a bit, probably cut Magical

 

[General Patton]

im already splitting it between 2 people so we will have 25mg each
i thought splitting the 25 int two hits of 12 & a half,
but maybe i will split the 12 & a half into two aswell by what magikalkat is saying,

i did a 50mg oral dose last friday although it was good & i enjoyed it i felt it could have been stronger

oh has anyone added ket near the end , good / bad idea ?

Oh OK, I was just responding because of M-cat777's post in the social thread. 25mg isn't really THAT high of a dose unless you're doing it for the first time or something, if you can take 50mg orally and not find it too strong you'll probably enjoy smoking that much. Just keep in mind what others have said about the variability between dosing methods of AMT. Lots of info in this thread, seems like you're on a safe track... Have a fun trip!

 

[Shambles]

oh has anyone added ket near the end , good / bad idea ?

I'm sure plenty have and I would imagine most of them would agree that it really is a big win all round. Think it was you I recently mentioned my fondness for Candyflips in their even sweeter form - with a goodly (but not sillyhigh - Serotonin Syndrome is a small but still scary enough possibility with that combo of the gods). At the time I also seemed to have an inexhaustible supply of ket to hand and made good use of it to wallow and bathe in the afterglow. If you like to round of an MDMA-fuelled night with a lil ketty snifter or three (and who doesn't?) then you'll likely find it plays just as nice with aMT too. Ket is just the ultimate in tail-end trip Goodness - seems to round off any evening of shimmyswirls in the style it deserves. Unfortunately my inexhaustible supply exhausted but it's just lushy

PS: I saw above that some folks find smoked aMT hits in minutes or even seconds so - just to help muddy the waters a bit - I'll mention it always takes a good hour top kick in whenever I smoke it. Very rare for any drug that smoking is so tardy to trip but oral doses take a good four hours to kick in for me too. I would echo the great advice you got from others and not go diving it to deep too soon cos it can be very deceptive.

45 minutes after smoking I generally feel a slight fuzz and buzz but 20 minutes later I'm glad I didn't reach for the foil again too soon. 25mg should be fine for most people but it's definitely on the strong side and can be very stimulating unlike oral/rectal dosing. Splitting your dose staggers the come up nicely - up in skips and hops rather than a sudden, speedy, psychedelic rocket up the jacksy which is often the case when smoking largish single doses. Have fun

 

[luckycloud]

Although, now that I have access to some nice crystal MDMA I think I'll try candy flipping with a small dose of aMT. A large dose of aMT with MDMA and LSD would be flirting with serotonin syndrome, but I think a small dose would really enhance and lengthen the euphoria and smooth out the landing.

. Think it was you I recently mentioned my fondness for Candyflips in their even sweeter form - with a goodly (but not sillyhigh - Serotonin Syndrome is a small but still scary enough possibility with that combo of the gods).

Hmm.. how small a dose of aMT are we talking about to safely avoid "flirting with serotonin syndrome" during an aMT-assisted Candyflip, out of curiosity?

 

[sub-di]

If so many people like a particular drug and you are unimpressed you should consider who you bought it from might be scamming you?

Even from the exact same batch you can get duff bits you know. Especially if the vendor is cutting it as you cannot cut it consistantly.

I too have found that a lot of coke heads dont like E.

I thought my batch may be cut or degraded (it sat in my hot mail box for a few days while I was out of town), but a friend dosed out of the same batch and got powerful results from 18 mg. I have never had a problem with this vendor for any other chems either.

Rather, I consider everyone's chemistry to be unique, and YMMV, especially with psychs.

It would make sense coke-heads don't like E, (I don't associate with coke heads myself unless I'm buying, so I don't know any personally enough) coke tends to cancel out MDMA when taken together. I suppose a coke abused brain may not respond well.

 

[sub-di]

Hmm.. how small a dose of aMT are we talking about to safely avoid "flirting with serotonin syndrome" during an aMT-assisted Candyflip, out of curiosity?

Impossible to know. It's not like there are clinical trials for crazy combinations of drugs. Regardless there are too many variables:

How much of each are you taking?
What is your normal tolerance level for each?
Have you taken the combo before as a point of reference?

People have reportedly had severe negative reactions to low doses of AMT by itself for example, others have taken several hundred milligrams without problems. Combine with 2 additional serotonergic drugs and you're in unknown territory; though it certainly has been done successfully by many.

I would certainly start well below my normal dosage myself, but beyond that I don't think anyone could offer safe advice on this.

 

[lancashire]

Hello everybody, after reading this forum I decided to get some aMT. I originally was looking for a Meph substitute (I only want to do legal highs/rc's now. Due to the nature of my job I can't take the risk of getting caught with class A's).

After getting some stuff from a certain *somewhere* for a festival - which was a major disappointment I might add. I hunted and trawled these and other forums for a reputable name (if there is such a thing!). Anyway I got 500 mg and some MDIA from a certain Chinese friend......My good god what a night.

Thank you Bluelight.

 

[MagickalKat777]

The stronger your freebase smells, the more impure it is (skatole) - Back in 2003 I got freebase from Omega that was almost entirely scent free... so yeah its quite possible the current synths are not so clean...

Also I have to warn you, I smoked 10mg of AMT and it seriously felt like I just ate meth... not as strong a speed as smoking meth but it was up there... Very little psychedelia so I shoved a 30mg capsule up my ass (I had both freebase and HCl from Omega) and damn was that intense but I didn't sleep for over 24 hours...