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Opioids coaxil

JamtasticX said:
First off shootings pills isn't a good idea, shooting this pill is horrible. I'm surprised that so many people are actually doing this, the article/video makes it seem like an epidemic.

Its gotten me very interested (not in the sense of wanting to do it, but to expand my knowledge). It's interesting that it's an SSRE, and essentially the only drug in it's class. I don't know why this causes the effects it does, or why people enjoy it so much?

I could be wrong, but it shouldn't be effecting any opiate receptors? Also, I don't understand why this is making normal people feel good? A ssri could increase serotonin levels making a person "feel good" but SSRE's are lowering the levels? I just don't have any idea how this is doing what everyone claims to the extent people are losing limbs over this?

I always have researched any drug I've ever taken. I can't find any reason this would be an enjoyable drug, except for people who have serotonin imbalances? Also correct me if I'm mistaken on the functionality of SSREs
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As I said, for whatever reason it feels like an opiate. I'd say it is best described as a oxy/tramadol mixture as it last longer than your average opiate. I only got high on it once but I'd take it any day over most other opiates.

And it's a shame to look down on fellow addicts. I bet that if all the opiate addicts in the US were to have no choice during WD's but to shoot up coaxil pills, and the shot was prepared by a coaxil addict who had yet to have any problems with necrosis, then they would gladly do it. They'd tell themselves "well hell, only SOME of the people that are addicted to this drug have serious problems, and I'm only doing this once."

Then it would be "hell, I'm only doing this twice." etc...

Yeah, its incredibly stupid, but I can't say I wouldn't have shot this shit up during the worst of my addiction. Taking 30+ vicodin/apap pills a day with or shooting up black tar is pretty stupid too.

I feel for these people and hope they find peace.
 
^ I am not sure. There are studies that say it's neuroprotactive. For me the wd was a little more intense then bupe but lasted 4-5 days. It has all the classic opioid wd symptoms. It does NOT last as long as another classic opiate or opioid. It is one of the shortest lasting drugs I have done. Also don't be fooled coaxil has nothing on morphine.
 
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And in what doses you have to take it to feel anything? I remember one guy stating he feels like he took an ecstasy pill after 2 pills but it's total bullshit. So one must really pump up a great amount of this shit into oneself to feel anything...

Maybe tianeptine is a much cheaper alternative for Russian heroinists but may I ask how much is tianeptine in Russia if heroin there is much cheaper than in the rest of Europe (at least much cheaper than in Poland)? And Coaxil on the other hand costs here ~30PLN (12,5mg x 30 tab), heroin prices have dramatically raised recently from 40PLN / 0.25g and 140PLN / 1g to 100PLN / 0.25g (actually it's less, 0.2g at most) and 400PLN / 1g and the stuff is weak. Last time I bought heroin was in May 2008. I wouldn't touch this shit now, I've no idea how junkies deal with getting money for it but it's none of my business. Still, Coaxil never was an alternative to heroin or any other opioids here. This phenomenon of injecting tianeptine is limited to Russia or at most Eastern Europe (maybe Belarus and Ukraine as well). BTW groins are just great to shoot pills, really... either this brings some great rush exclusively to some people or there are some exclusive stupid people.
 
I don't get it either.. I'm Russian and I would never imagine shooting that many pills. I've only shot pills once... 1 morphine sulfate tab.. and I'll probably never do it again, wasn't worth it at all.
 
CitioKid said:
As I said, for whatever reason it feels like an opiate. I'd say it is best described as a oxy/tramadol mixture as it last longer than your average opiate. I only got high on it once but I'd take it any day over most other opiates.

And it's a shame to look down on fellow addicts. I bet that if all the opiate addicts in the US were to have no choice during WD's but to shoot up coaxil pills, and the shot was prepared by a coaxil addict who had yet to have any problems with necrosis, then they would gladly do it. They'd tell themselves "well hell, only SOME of the people that are addicted to this drug have serious problems, and I'm only doing this once."

Then it would be "hell, I'm only doing this twice." etc...

Yeah, its incredibly stupid, but I can't say I wouldn't have shot this shit up during the worst of my addiction. Taking 30+ vicodin/apap pills a day with or shooting up black tar is pretty stupid too.

I feel for these people and hope they find peace.
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It's nice that it feels like an opiate, but that doesn't answer my question. I would like to know, from a psychopharmacological standpoint, how does this drug affect the opiate system.

You may say I look down on other addicts, and maybe I do. Granted I've ended up addicted to opiates. Did I think it would ever happen to me, no, but I did my due diligence and knew it was possible before I ever started doing them. The same with all drugs I've done, I know what can happen and why.

Given the choice between shooting a ton of random shit, potentially losing a limb, just because I might not feel sick, is NOT worth it at all. I seriously doubt all the opiate addicts in the US would randomly shoot up whatever, just because someone who shoots coaxil prepares it for them.

If you are willing to risk a limb just so you're not sick, then you need to seek some serious counselling. One week or so of having flu like symptoms, or losing a limb for the rest of your life? Seems like an obvious choice to me.
 
JamtasticX said:
It's nice that it feels like an opiate, but that doesn't answer my question. I would like to know, from a psychopharmacological standpoint, how does this drug affect the opiate system.

You may say I look down on other addicts, and maybe I do. Granted I've ended up addicted to opiates. Did I think it would ever happen to me, no, but I did my due diligence and knew it was possible before I ever started doing them. The same with all drugs I've done, I know what can happen and why.

Given the choice between shooting a ton of random shit, potentially losing a limb, just because I might not feel sick, is NOT worth it at all. I seriously doubt all the opiate addicts in the US would randomly shoot up whatever, just because someone who shoots coaxil prepares it for them.

If you are willing to risk a limb just so you're not sick, then you need to seek some serious counselling. One week or so of having flu like symptoms, or losing a limb for the rest of your life? Seems like an obvious choice to me.
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From what I gather on this forum, you are an IV heroin user. Do you really somehow think that you're superior to these people? They come from a third world country and with no education, as opposed to you, who I am assuming had the priviledge of being raised in a first world country with access to all the information and education you desire.

I don't mean to throw out the word addict, but addicts often have this idea in their head that they can make a hierarchy of addiction, to somehow justify their habit as 'less bad.'

To me, IV heroin is the end of the line.

I don't mean to judge or come across as though I am attacking you. I just think you should have more respect for these poor people. No one wants to become an addict that shoots up pills and loses their limbs. But addiction does that.
 
^ Plus access to the internet. When people started injecting coaxil they did not know of the health dangers involved. Also adder you can get an equal high with heroin as you can with coaxil It even stopped w/d's for me dude for Both H and Bupe.
 
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