Opioids To withdraw or not to withdraw..?

[opioid_frreak]

Hey guys.
I'll make this short, sharp and to the point.. I got on the buperenorphine/methadone program after exaggerating a heroin habit(i did use and do have legit pain issues), to therefore be dosed alot higher than usual and get a buzz..

Ok.
I have like 2 days until i switch from 1 month of 32mg bupe once per day monrning(few months before of lower doses with h and 400mg a day oxy for a while) over to fuck knows what dose of methadone and they are gunna do the whole like how sick am i and shit, and ilm thinking to get the maximum dose of methadone asap would it be a better idea to keep dosing and just switch from a bulk bupe dose or, maybe next few days ill just swallow my whole dose so by time it comes to them giving me methadone, so my w/ds are worse and send my 'done dose higher.

ok basically, is there any advantage to swallowing my next doses(2) until i start methadone, in some crude attempt to worsen my w/d(which is the aim here!), or will it make fuck all difference to me w/d'ing during stabilization due to bupes crazy half life and what not and saturating your body...

thanks peeps

 

[adubwakka]

32mg of bupe? wow man..... i bet you wouldve been fine on like 2 mgs. 32 is a pretty obscene amount. As far as your question I dunno, sorry, just had to comment on the bupe thing lol! good luck to ya though.

 

[SkagKush]

imho, you kinda fucked yourself over.... to much bupe

and now ull be on to much methadone

 

[BIGsherm7272]

yea after being on that much bupe your tolerance is fucked. You are going to have to take 300+mg of methadone to get a buzz......and I highly doubt they will give you anywhere near that amount. You would have got higher off 2mg of bupe than 32.

 

[brooklynbuRniNg5]

i didnt even know it was humanely possible to be on 32 mgs of bupe

too much man

 

[SkagKush]

lol ya eh, also i dont see why you would ever lie about a dope habit. you sorta then turning away proper medical help. you dont know best apparently.....

 

[brooklynbuRniNg5]

well actually yeah i guess its possible, i ended up looking it up, but still, thats so much dude either way you try to do this youre not gonn have much fun

 

[adubwakka]

If i were you id try to put off the methadone thing for like 2 weeks to a month and quickly lower your sub dose. Like tomorrow, I would try taking just 8 mg and see if itll hold you(which I almost guarentee it will), then rapidly go down to as low as you can after that and eventually get to under 1 mg.

With bupe you get more of a high when you take less. Many people on this board will tell you that if you get down to .5 mg a dose youll get more of a high/euphoria out of it than if you were taking 32mg, and I agree with those people from personal experience. After stabilizing at a low dose, switch to done

 

[nvan7891]

bupe only has a Max of 30mg methadone equivalent opiate receptor activity so I doubt you will need a ton of methadone. also if your going to a clinic they give you a standard dose and work up from there daily. so it doesn't matter how sick you are you are gonna get the same dose the first day no matter what and they will raise it slightly every day until you are stable

anyway I would say it would make absolutky no difference how you took your next doses
plus if your on that much sub you wont be in withdrawal for at least Like 5 days.

...why the hell are you moving from bupe to methadone anyway??

 

[BlueberryfishY]

I'd rather cold turkey 400mg's of oxycodone than 32mg's of bupe.

good luck dude

 

[Cane2theLeft]

bupe only has a Max of 30mg methadone equivalent opiate receptor activity so I doubt you will need a ton of methadone.

Do you have a source to back this up? I don't know if its true or not. I've heard that people on methadone have to taper down to at least 30mg of methadone before transitioning to buprenorphine but not this about receptor activity.

 

[SkagKush]

hmmm, thats actually very valid Cane, i also wonder......

 

[8L4YN3]

I reckon you should just swallow your next two doses of bupe, get as little bupe in your as possible before you start methadone treatment. Because your body is saturated hardcore with buprenorphine and wont need a full methadone dose.

So i guess they will give you little bit at the start and keep you at whatever valium your dose your at while stabillisation then slowly raise your dose as the bupe SLOWLY gets wiped out of your brain, and like once your m-done dose is worked out 100% the benzo reduction will continue.

Should have been tapering down ages buddy boy.