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the bartender should be serving very watered down alcohol for the girls if their job requires them to drink while entertaining men.
 
Thank you everyone who replied with advice. =)

A great deal of alcoholic liver pathology is that the liver converts alcohol to fat. The fat can come to clog up the works. There are many other factors. The liver puts everything on hold to take care of alcohol. Toxins and bad stuff are on hold waiting for the alcohol deluge to come to an end. This can be a lot of oxidative and other forms of toxic stress.

Milk thistle addresses anti-oxidant problems. It is OK in that regard. You want lipotropic factors to help keep the accumulated fat able to move and not block all the works going on in the liver. L-carnintine, lecithin, and fish oil are lipotropic. I suspect that some of coffees effects are related to being lipotropic also.

Bile flow is a big factor in liver health also. Coffee, dandelion root, taurine and other things improve bile flow.

Not a liver topic but lipoic acid helps prevent alcoholic neuropathy. It is a versatile anti-oxidant.

Medical literature says that alcoholic liver pathology does not always progress in a consistent fashion. Protective value of various substance are likely to vary greatly between individuals.

Abstinence and moderation are far superior to excessive use with possible protection from various supplements. But it would be rare for a person to be harmed by the preventative guesses given above , so why not?
Best post in the thread!!

Thank you so so much!!
That is unbelievably disgusting. :(
Waay better than what Americans would do imo (prostitutes & strippers).
the bartender should be serving very watered down alcohol for the girls if their job requires them to drink while entertaining men.
The bartenders obviously do. They're not REALLY serving a bunch of tiny Japanese girls a shot of vodka every 15 minutes for 4 hours straight. -_-
 
*The most important is: Siliphos, which is 10X better absorbed than regular Milk Thistle.

*Alpha Lipoic Acid

*Taurine

*Branch Chain Amino Acids

*600mg NAC

*Green Tea Phytosome supplement

*A standard milk thistle product with dandelion and artichoke

*A regular One Daily multivitamin

*Vitamin B 100 Complex

*1000mg of Vitamin C

*200mcg of Selenium

*400IU Vitamin E

 
Tell her to get a shot with a large mixer - when the guy is ready for drink number two, pour the shot into the first glass. She can simply 'sip' the drink and after a few shots are added take it to the bar for a top up of mixer/ice - the bartender tips half the drink out and adds mixer.

Repeat!
 
Alcohol is an NMDA antagonist. Maybe a NMDA agonist, or indirect agonist? Aniracetam? Piracetam? Of course, this would be optional. What dragonslayer said is a must for anyone IMHO. Especially drug users.
 
Riiiiight. Because there is only prostitution and stripping in America.
Other countries obviously do have prostitution and stripping--Japan included. But I just think it's funny that there were like 5 people who shouted complete disgusted just because it's foreign and new.
Tell her to get a shot with a large mixer - when the guy is ready for drink number two, pour the shot into the first glass. She can simply 'sip' the drink and after a few shots are added take it to the bar for a top up of mixer/ice - the bartender tips half the drink out and adds mixer.

Repeat!
You can't really cheat the system. It's your job. You have co-workers who could tell on you, managers who watch you, and customers who could report you. You also don't get up and go to the bar yourself. You're not allowed to order drinks for yourself. Your job is to entertain the men you sit with. So you sit with him, entertain him, and try to get him to order you drinks.

*The most important is: Siliphos, which is 10X better absorbed than regular Milk Thistle.

*Alpha Lipoic Acid

*Taurine

*Branch Chain Amino Acids

*600mg NAC

*Green Tea Phytosome supplement

*A standard milk thistle product with dandelion and artichoke

*A regular One Daily multivitamin

*Vitamin B 100 Complex

*1000mg of Vitamin C

*200mcg of Selenium

*400IU Vitamin E


Awesome!! I feel ignorant for not knowing this! Thank you so much. I ordered some online for her. =)
 
Other countries obviously do have prostitution and stripping--Japan included. But I just think it's funny that there were like 5 people who shouted complete disgusted just because it's foreign and new.

This isn't disgusting because it's "foreign and new". It's disgusting because it's completely dangerous to the health of the girls involved. I'm glad you want to help your friend guard against possible damage-but just the concept itself, girls having to drink at their job-disgusts me. Sorry. Your friend should be a flight attendant or something instead.
 
the liver shit is not going to do anything for her except build up false hopes that her job is OK for her health.

Alcohol is toxic to many other organs in the body besides the liver. Counteracting a rise in liver enzymes is only one of the many problems.
 
This isn't disgusting because it's "foreign and new". It's disgusting because it's completely dangerous to the health of the girls involved. I'm glad you want to help your friend guard against possible damage-but just the concept itself, girls having to drink at their job-disgusts me. Sorry. Your friend should be a flight attendant or something instead.
You must go through a very selective process to become a flight attendant--very hard!

the liver shit is not going to do anything for her except build up false hopes that her job is OK for her health.

Alcohol is toxic to many other organs in the body besides the liver. Counteracting a rise in liver enzymes is only one of the many problems.

I think she knows her job is bad for her health. -__-
 
Well, I mean, I respect her right to do whatever she wants to do, don't get me wrong. We all have to make our own choices. The flight attendant thing was just a suggestion, trying to point out that there are a lot of options for pretty, charming women who are good with customers. But if she really wants this job, all I can say is I hope the positives it brings to her life outweigh the negatives.
 
Many people drink to get a buzz on, simply because it is the only "legal" way they know of how to get that buzz on. Some people have a more easily addicted system than others, so they just can't help themselves but keep on getting that buzz on the only way they can - alcohol.

Possibilities...

- Introduce them to alternative buzz(es). Once their frontiers are opened, there is a strong chance that they may prefer one or more of the alternative buzz(es) to that former toxic alcohol buzz. So much so that they may actually begin working sober through their shifts in anticipation of a getaway weekend with that new found buzz.

- Break down what alcohol actually is and its ROI (return on investment). It is one of the most toxic substances we consume (en masse). It gives us a nice buzz, but at what cost? Is there anything else that will provide a similar or better buzz, but with far fewer to no side or after effects? YES! Like what? Ummm... look around. What is this place (Bluelight)?

It's easy to say NO/DON'T! Enacting such a command is counter intuitive for all ages. It's like reverse psychology. Provide an alternative, however - a way out - and lo and behold there might actually be a light at the end of the tunnel.

As a disclaimer, I am not saying to blindly and carelessly get this person hooked on drug-A/B/C. Simply get out of the habit of telling people NO without providing a reasonable alternative path for them to travel. If they are looking for a high (as are - or were at one time - all here), they will find it one way or another. Open up their mind to other, at times more euphoric and less toxic, alternatives and you may actually keep them safer and healthier sooner and easier than youd have thought possible.

There are no magic cures. What we do have are healthy regimens which we can go on to reverse most, if not all, of our ailments.

Stay safe.
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