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psychedelic drugs kid shit?

nativenick

nativenick

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i love psychedelic drugs more than any other kind of drugs . even if i do partake in awful shit more than psychs.

it sucks though alot of people i used to trip with on acid, mush, rc's etc. turned on that scene. i find as i get older all everyone wants to do. is drink do coke smoke weed. theres other people that do opiates, and pills but thru and thru they always talk smack to psychedellic drugs like it will turn you into a vegetable/acid casualty or something. i find my circle of friends view psycedelic drugs like some childish 14 year old high school like fad even though we all tripped together. the most insulting thing is theyll look at me like i have a problem for tripping 4 to 10 times a year meanwhile they drink almost all the time and do shit like opiates and coke almost every week or more. u cant tell me 1 to 6 trips a year is worse than drinking ur face of and powdering your nose every week. sorry if it seems like a rant im jus wondering if anyone hear can relate
 
basically my circle of friends to trip with is shrinking and i do not like it one bit solo trips are good for getting to know the real you but i still like those fun goofy laugh fests with friends. trips shouldnt always be serious imo. those fun trips definatley serve a purpose
 
Yeah, totally. One of my good high school friends was the one who got us into getting high (marijuana), which was very psychedelic to us. He was the pothead ringleader of us, the first one to buy it, the first one to get a pipe, the one who always smoked the most. Then we all went to college, different ones mostly, including him, and for Thanksgiving like 2 1/2 months into the school year we all met up when we were at home with our parents for the holiday, and we naturally assumed he wanted to smoke. So we broke it out and started rolling some joints, and he gave us this totally condescending look and was like "dude, you guys STILL smoke that shit? Dude, that's kid stuff, man. Quit that shit before it turns you into losers." And we were like, WHAT?? Are you kidding me? And then we went into his garage and had some drinks and he proceeded to drink an entire 30-case of cheap beer and I was surprised to find him totally coherent... barely even seemed drunk. Turns out it's because he was drinking like that every single day. What a hypocrite.

I realize it's weed and not psychs but it's the same idea. I also have friends and family who totally look down on psychedelics. My wife when we were younger thought psychedelics were for scary delinquent middle schoolers and high schoolers and was totally stupid and dangerous. Of course she's since changed her mind. :)
 
I think most people see it as a phase in their lives and choose to continue doing other things that are more socially "acceptable".
 
haha sweet. i have alot of demons and i know what they are i know me more than anybody even my parents. my big demon is alcohol and weed . psychs are the one thing that slaps me in the face and makes me ackowledge this problem that i am still batteling with
 
Swerlz said:
I think most people see it as a phase in their lives and choose to continue doing other things that are more socially "acceptable".
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i agree. that whole club/bar culture bullshit fucks with things. people only drink cuz everyone else does. its kinda hard to stay away from alch when all your friends drink and like 90 percent of your family does
 
Acid is definantly not as bad as Coke. Weed, that's a different story, but weed is the most harmless recreational illegal drug that's I've come across. Alcohol is terrible for you, I only drink it here and there.
 
i dont know about how harmless weed is. i find that since ive been a chronic im more outgoing and way more sociable than before. but the trade off is im more anxious and over all more paranoid. not to mention i aint as moytivated or responaible as before
 
nativenick said:
i dont know about how harmless weed is. i find that since ive been a chronic im more outgoing and way more sociable than before. but the trade off is im more anxious and over all more paranoid. not to mention i aint as moytivated or responaible as before
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Well you know, I think a lot of the time weed helps people to have an excuse for being lazy. You smoke, you feel better about being bored, basically. But it's 100% within your power to do whatever you want to do whether you're smoking or not.

But if you really feel it's bad enough for your life, you should quit, at least for a while, to get yourself into a place in life you feel more comfortable, and maybe then it will be a different story. Or maybe not.

Either way, the point is that ultimately, the things you do in life and the way your life turns out is very much in your control. Even if it feels hard to do something you can make yourself do it if you know it will be a good thing to do or if it's something you really believe is right to do. And if weed's really making it hard for you to do this, you can choose to stop using it if it. It's all about choices. :)
 
Xorkoth said:
Either way, the point is that ultimately, the things you do in life and the way your life turns out is very much in your control. Even if it feels hard to do something you can make yourself do it if you know it will be a good thing to do or if it's something you really believe is right to do. And if weed's really making it hard for you to do this, you can choose to stop using it if it. It's all about choices. :)
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But, but, what if you're a determinist? I don't believe in choices or free will...
Philosophic quibble aside, good advice.


I am also annoyed by the fact it can be so hard to find people to trip with because they have "outgrown" it or won't try it in the first place due to erroneous beliefs. Especially if you have a very small circle of friends and don't get out much. I don't like getting drunk dammit...it's just depressing.

Someday I'll meet like minded people. I hope.
 
nativenick said:
i agree. that whole club/bar culture bullshit fucks with things. people only drink cuz everyone else does. its kinda hard to stay away from alch when all your friends drink and like 90 percent of your family does
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I'm all about Psychs (take in moderation), but I let people be if they want to spout off a bunch of propaganda to justify their drinking problems.

Growing up around a rez, I think I'm the only one with out an alcohol problem. I'm happy about that too, seen too much bad shit over it.
 
Swerlz said:
I think most people see it as a phase in their lives and choose to continue doing other things that are more socially "acceptable".
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Yep. I know a lot of people like this. My dad's a good example of that, he used to smoke all the time, trip regularly, and acid was his all time favourite drug for a long time. However now he just drinks and smokes cigarettes, because it's got to the stage where he doesn't want to take risks with the law any more.

I also have many close friends who used to smoke a lot and take various other drugs, but then stopped due to people close to them being opposed to them. Personally I think that's a weird decision, because to me that's like saying "You like me, but not for who I am, so I'm going to change who I am for you" - but to each their own, I'm all for everyone choosing their own path, and not judging anyone regardless of how well that path may or may not be going for them.

Then there's the people who've never tried psychedelics because they're scared of them, I think that's the worst, because it's not their fault, but it's because of all the idiots spouting bullshit propaganda. You have no idea how many people back in the UK I heard saying the classic "A friend of a friend took acid and thought he was an orange, he never came back!!" story, honestly in my circle of friends back in the UK, aside from a few exceptions, most people were more scared of psychedelics than of ANY other drug/class of drugs, they really thought they made you go batshit insane, rip out your lover's organs and jump out of a window because you think you can fly.

However I think there's a better way to look at all of it. Rewind, rewind back to a few years before you were open to drugs, think how you thought then. "Wow, that kid's wasting his life, smoking weed, he's probably going to get addicted, I'm going to avoid him" - most of us have been there at some point. The point is, when we believe something, we'll defend it very hard, so sometimes it's hard/impossible to change peoples minds about things they've grown up believing. It sucks, but, there are plenty of people in the world, and plenty of open-minded ones :)
 
Psychedelics in my teens was one of the best times in my life,i had NO resposibilities,no hangups,no maturity and for that fact NO real life experience,it was ceratinly a novel time to partake in the use of psyches.

I found it was only as i got older and adulthood showed itself that my trips became progressively harder,they became less fun,less innocent and more twisted.IME through repeated use it was only a matter of time when i would have one trip too many,it was then that the parachuting from trips increased,i started to look forward more to using the benzos and opiates on the comedown than the tripping itself,i preferred the calm and comfort that these substances provided.

I think if your lucky and you have good friends who aren`t all twisted in their heads,if you have secure surroundings,and your life is good,then tripping can be a wonderful thing and provide many insights and revelations of the world in which you live and the skin in which you were born.

When you become mantally battered and worn and start to fray at the edges from one too many trip, then the relief that the opiates and benzos brings is well understandable and you too may hang up your tripping coat for some comfortable slippers.
 
^^ I quite agree. Now I have a wife, kid, mortgage, taking serious psychs like LSD has become impractical due to the length of the experience and less fun due to the fact I focus more on my responsibilities as a father/husband etc. That's why I find that I am more drawn to short-lived highs such as coke and occasionally mdma etc. if I am on a big night out and like a glass of wine and a few benzos. I can do these things without having to put aside a whole weekend to mentally prepare, trip and then recover.

The missus is totally straight and just wouldn't understand me saying that I wanted to go off for 24 hours to trip my nuts off. Life is about making choices and sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the things that are really important.
 
I can see where the whole psychedelics are childish might come from. People get older and want to move to a more adult oriented scene such as bars, clubs, etc. Psyches are not best suited to this environment. More of a drinking atmosphere.

Alcohol is a great drug to facilitate meeting/picking up on women, etc.

Psyches not really.
 
I haven't noticed this trend in my immediate vicinity: of my friends who've experimented with drugs beyond alcohol and cannabis, use is less frequent (particularly drinking), but there's no bias against psychedelics. Of my friends who only toked and who've since stopped, they don't actively deride smoking weed. Rather, they just kinda lost interest.

Just gotta fall in with the right crowd? ;)

ebola
 
They're just ignorant. Maybe psychedelics never did anything real for them, so they assume it won't for anyone else?


demon66 said:
I can see where the whole psychedelics are childish might come from. People get older and want to move to a more adult oriented scene such as bars, clubs, etc. Psyches are not best suited to this environment. More of a drinking atmosphere.
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Alcohol degrades maturity level for sure. Don't get me wrong -- pretty much all drugs have the capability of making people pretty silly -- but alc. is definitely no exception.


Xorkoth said:
Yeah, totally. One of my good high school friends was the one who got us into getting high (marijuana), which was very psychedelic to us. He was the pothead ringleader of us, the first one to buy it, the first one to get a pipe, the one who always smoked the most. Then we all went to college, different ones mostly, including him, and for Thanksgiving like 2 1/2 months into the school year we all met up when we were at home with our parents for the holiday, and we naturally assumed he wanted to smoke. So we broke it out and started rolling some joints, and he gave us this totally condescending look and was like "dude, you guys STILL smoke that shit? Dude, that's kid stuff, man. Quit that shit before it turns you into losers." And we were like, WHAT?? Are you kidding me? And then we went into his garage and had some drinks and he proceeded to drink an entire 30-case of cheap beer and I was surprised to find him totally coherent... barely even seemed drunk. Turns out it's because he was drinking like that every single day. What a hypocrite.
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That's so weird. I really can't wrap my head around how a person could try smoking weed and drinking beer, and somehow decide that they're getting more out of the latter...!
 
TheAppleCore said:
That's so weird. I really can't wrap my head around how a person could try smoking weed and drinking beer, and somehow decide that they're getting more out of the latter...!
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You want weird and ignorant listen to this. Back in High School somehow while in the office for other reasons smoking weed came up and he would just not get off the topic. Someone probably mentioned something. I just kept saying "I plead the Fifth" and he would just keep asking. So knowing they can't really do anything with the info except watch me and maybe fuck with me I "admitted" to smoking around once a weekend(in reality I had smoked two bongs with a point of hash on top of each bowl that day before school and at the time was a full time pothead)so anyways before he was my principal he was my social studies teacher. He was one of those joke around type teachers and would often joke about that "great beer waiting for him at home" everyday. Now fast forward to the office again. This guy proceeds to tell me in all seriousness i'm a full blown addict and I need help. Please god tell how this guy downs a beer daily after work and hes cool yet I smoke a bowl on a weekend and I am an addict. Fools.
 
Social acceptence regarding drugs is something we make up. Nobody knows for sure whats good or bad, pure or unpure, therefore we automatically conclude what we percieve to be true wether it is or not. Don't worry about what your friends say, if you enjoy tripping then it's your right to do so (not legally but morally)
 
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