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Opioids Shooting Upside-Down

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Druidus said:
You guys are ridiculous. I never said it would or wouldn't increase the high. I asked because it would be interesting to know it did, or didn't, or even if it made it worse. How can one learn without asking questions or studying textbooks/other-information?
Ha, seriously, it's hilarious what you think is dumb.
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Unfortunately, you wont be able to "learn" if you happen to accidentaly kill yourself while trying to IV potent opiates while hanging upside down. I think thats what people were concerned with for the most part here, even if there post suggested otherwise. You might want to think about giving these posters a break since, after all, you did ask a very unusual question. I meant no offense to you so I apologize if you got upset...but my response is still the same.....I think it is dangerous and unsafe to attempt what you were describing. There is more than likely a good reason as to why doctors dont use "hanging upside down" as a method for IV.

Once again, I apologize if you were offended, I do not think YOU are dumb, allthough I think that attempting to IV while hanging upside down could possibly have consequences that result in you becoming dumb, or a vegetable, or dead.....therefore, I do not reccommend it.
 
jamesBrown said:
Unfortunately, you wont be able to "learn" if you happen to accidentaly kill yourself while trying to IV potent opiates while hanging upside down. I think thats what people were concerned with for the most part here, even if there post suggested otherwise. You might want to think about giving these posters a break since, after all, you did ask a very unusual question. I meant no offense to you so I apologize if you got upset...but my response is still the same.....I think it is dangerous and unsafe to attempt what you were describing. There is more than likely a good reason as to why doctors dont use "hanging upside down" as a method for IV.

Once again, I apologize if you were offended, I do not think YOU are dumb, allthough I think that attempting to IV while hanging upside down could possibly have consequences that result in you becoming dumb, or a vegetable, or dead.....therefore, I do not reccommend it.
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I don't mean to offend anyone either; I never asked for this. The point is that it's a valid question. I'm not saying I'm going to do it, or recommending it. I'm asking if others have tested this and can tell me subjectively what happened for them, or otherwise know how/if position and/or location of the head in relation to the heart matters.

Sure, it might be dumb, IN PRACTICE. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking IN THEORY.

Also, why do you think those things would happen? Or are you jut making a guess with nothing to really back it up? It's ok to provide caution, but we should still tell whether we KNOW that these listed bad things could happen, or whether we're just worrying.
 
I think that if anyone tries this, they should definitely have a "spotter" to help in case of a loss of consciousness or fall or whatever. It is obviously adding a good bit of risk to the already pretty risky business of injecting opiates...
 
Pegasus said:
I think that if anyone tries this, they should definitely have a "spotter" to help in case of a loss of consciousness or fall or whatever. It is obviously adding a good bit of risk to the already pretty risky business of injecting opiates...
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Agreed, definately.
 
Stupid is as stupid does... I think it was very intelligible for this question to be posted... Remember harm reduction? And btw when I snort opiates I follow up by snorting a little water and sometimes I do a handstand right after. I like doing handstands and I believe the subjective experience is intensified slightly
 
when shooting up i usually try to elevate, my arm or leg to try to speed up the flow of blood to my heart. It usually induces a better rush than if i leave i down or level. so standing upside down may or not help it would probably depend on where you injected.
 
Druidus said:
I don't mean to offend anyone either; I never asked for this. The point is that it's a valid question. I'm not saying I'm going to do it, or recommending it. I'm asking if others have tested this and can tell me subjectively what happened for them, or otherwise know how/if position and/or location of the head in relation to the heart matters.

Sure, it might be dumb, IN PRACTICE. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking IN THEORY.

Also, why do you think those things would happen? Or are you jut making a guess with nothing to really back it up? It's ok to provide caution, but we should still tell whether we KNOW that these listed bad things could happen, or whether we're just worrying.
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I was guessing at what the outcome could be, you are right. but my "guesses" were based on common sense, mixed with a little bit of knowledge on how our bodies work. So its not like my "guesses" at the possible outcome came from just a shot in the dark. Like I said, there more than likely is a serious reason as to why doctors dont incorporate "upside down IV'ing" into there practice.

your right....we WERE talking "in theory".....and "in theory" you very well could cause serious damage to yourself, or even death, when attmpting this unique way of injecting hard opiates into your body. So there is nothing wrong with making people aware of the possible outcome of IV'ing while hanging upside down.

So, technically, I dont KNOW that these horrible things will happen to someone while attempting to do this, but it IS in everyones best interest to know that it is DEFINITELY possible. Sometimes worrying about something that you may or may not be sure of how serious it is, can save lives. And there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.
 
SayWhatHEH said:
I don't think doctors would incorporate 99% of what is asked about here on bluelight
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they may not incorporate alot of it, but that is probably because alot of it has been studied and shown to be detrimental to ones health....i.e...injecting pills......BUT, this method of IV'ing upside down, probably doesnt have ANY studies done to show if its safe. And even if it is safe, we dont know that because of the lack of research.
 
I highly doubt laying down with you legs up a couch and injecting could hurt you.

I don`t think injections while upsidedown would necessarily hurt you in any way.

I don`t know either.

But I want to know.

And if it is harmful, you should be able to posit REASONS, physical ones, for harm to be caused. Reasons behind your supposed (guessed) effects. I can`t see any reason it would be worse, intrinsically.
 
Like I said, I havent done any research into this exact issue(nor has anyone else) so its difficult to say WHAT EXACTLY could cause complications. Thats part of the whole problem. We just dont know what could happen, or if its dangerous or not. And I guess that trying it for yourself could shed some light on the subject. But in the interest of harm reduction....I wouldnt say that experimenting with a potentially dangerous/deadly "procedure" without professional medical supervision is a good idea.

but by all means, if you want to try it, then go ahead. Im just warning you that NO ONE knows what could happen. Thats the danger. you dont have to know the exact problems with doing something for it to be considered possibly dangerous. Thats exactly why that when you participate in a "drug" study(or any sort of medical study) where the doctors/scientists who are performing the study dont know how a certain drug acts on the human body, or they dont know exactly how a certain medical procedure will turn out.....you sign a release form, saying that THEY are not liable for any complications/dangers that occur during the study. Thats because they simply dont know whats going to happen but they are smart enough to know that just because they dont know soemthing is potentially dangerous or harmful, it STILL CAN be harmfull.....you dont neccessarily have to have that knowledge for it to be true.
 
^Why do you keep saying this would be deadly? I could only see it being TRULY dangerous if you (like someone else has mentioned) fell off your bed and hit your head, knocking yourself out.

I don't understand where you're getting this death thing from.
 
For realz, its not like your veins are gonna flow backwards or any weird shit like that. They have valves after all, making it a 1 way street. I agree w /baybex, unless you go unconscious b/c of the head rush from the blood or something else goes awry, i dont see any complications.

<Smal edit. You didn't do anything really wrong, but I'm just removing the comment that could be twisted by a desperate person into something else... It doesn't really add too much to the conversation, so I'm taking it out. Again, nothing particularly wrong that you did... Just be careful what you suggest! -Pega >
 
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BaybeX said:
^Why do you keep saying this would be deadly? I could only see it being TRULY dangerous if you (like someone else has mentioned) fell off your bed and hit your head, knocking yourself out.

I don't understand where you're getting this death thing from.
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Because no one has done legit studies on the effects of IV'ing upside down there is no reason why we should exclude the possiblility that death could be a possible outcome resulting from complications that arise from this new "unusual" IV technique.

*I also didnt say that "this would be deadly"...I said it could possibly be deadly. There is a difference. If your gonna follow me around bluelight so you can try to argue with every post I make, atleast quote what I say correctly.


I highly doubt that it would be deadly...but just in case it could have deadly consequences, it would be better if people are aware that we dont know what will happen, therefore, leaving death as a possible outcome.

Better safe than sorry:)
 
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^Death is a possible outcome pretty much every time any person takes any drug for the first time. This isn't drastically more likely to induce death unless there is there is some variable which we have missed. This is entirely possible, which is why we are still advising against it in the name of harm reduction. If it is to be attempted, we want to advise that another able-bodied person should be available to intervene in the experiment in case something goes wrong.

Another reason that-- excluding the dangers of suspending yourself upside down and injecting opiates independently-- I don't think any serious danger is to come from this practice is that if there was a serious concern, we probably would have heard of it. I give two reasons for this: 1) upside OD'd junkies would not go unnoticed, or in the case of lesser damage, they would live to tell of the ordeal, and 2) people almost certainly have tried this before...
 
jamesBrown said:
Because no one has done legit studies on the effects of IV'ing upside down there is no reason why we should exclude the possiblility that death could be a possible outcome resulting from complications that arise from this new "unusual" IV technique.

*I also didnt say that "this would be deadly"...I said it could possibly be deadly. There is a difference. If your gonna follow me around bluelight so you can try to argue with every post I make, atleast quote what I say correctly.


I highly doubt that it would be deadly...but just in case it could have deadly consequences, it would be better if people are aware that we dont know what will happen, therefore, leaving death as a possible outcome.

Better safe than sorry:)
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Ah, so sorry I used a 'w' instead of a 'c'.

And FWIW, I don't follow you around BL.. I can't possibly post in any thread that you haven't since you post in every god damn thread in OD.
 
BREAKING NEWS: Upon release of this thread, there have been numerous reports and sightings of up-side-down junkies all over downtown streets.
 
More Breaking News: All of them died. Shooting upside-down IS fatal, and jamesbrown truly is a visionary, genius, and pioneer in the field of harm reduction. Nobel prize to follow.
 
jamesBrown said:
Please DO NOT attempt to IV ANYTHING while hanging upside down. I really dont think there has been much research as to the possible negative side effects.....one can only imagine
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You could get light headed while upside down, especially after injecting, and pass out.

You really don't want to pass out with a needle in your hand.

Seeing as this has no HR value, I'm going to close this.
 
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