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The 6-APB thread

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DwayneHoover said:
I really think BL needs to start stepping up the moderation of 6-apb threads, blocking reports on where to get "the good stuff" to avoid a massive shill-fest, but allowing reports of evil vendors and toxic products BY NAME that must be avoided/boycotted/stopped
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There is a problem with this though. A lot of people don't know how to Google or find this shit on their own... they'll take those vendors names and go order the shit anyway and BL could be implicated in the deaths and hospitalizations that would ensue afterwards.
 
I doubt people will go into a thread listing all the bad vendors and then order from them.

I think the idea is pointless though, a vendor that is listed as untrustworthy will just register another domain and carry on ripping people off.
 
ashtray girl said:
I doubt people will go into a thread listing all the bad vendors and then order from them.

I think the idea is pointless though, a vendor that is listed as untrustworthy will just register another domain and carry on ripping people off.
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You obviously haven't seen some of the stupid things that people do on here. I remember reading a post years back about a kid who just randomly dumped some powder out of a vial of 2C-T-21 and snorted it, having no idea how much he really took, and then complaining about how toxic it is... I see shit like that all the time and its one of the reasons I took a good two year hiatus from BL. I couldn't handle it anymore. And just because the vendor has shitty 6-APB doesn't mean they might not have other stuff that would get kids in trouble.
 
But if they have shitty 6-apb then they are clearly not to be trusted, so anything else they have is to be avoided also.

I agree there is lots of idiocy on here (as anywhere) but I seriously doubt there would be too many people clamouring to order from a vendor labelled as untrustworthy and to be avoided.

But, as I said in my previous post it wouldn't work simply because the vendors would just change their name.
 
Waa waa waa. Ok. Look- as I'm still having rage issues since last 6apb.

If you want to talk vendors, there are forums where u can
If you want to check a vendor try this-

Load google

Type 'whatever website name' and follow with key word 'scam' or 'complaints'

It works :)

MINX X
 
DwayneHoover said:
In regards to the BF product, there was this post to a forum I am on:

The supplier warns that FIVE new super-strength chemical substances are already flooding into Britain.
He reveals that he suffered 60 hours of hell after roadtesting one of them.
And, chillingly, he predicts the Government will never keep up with the ever-changing concoctions – linked to two more deaths last week.
The dealer – we are calling him Lee to protect his real identity – made thousands selling the drugs online and via Twitter.
But he finally came to his senses after taking BF – and getting a taste of his own medicine.

“I thought I was going to die,” he says. “It was supposed to be similar to ecstasy but it was 30 minutes of pleasure and 59½ hours of hell.”
BF was launched three weeks ago and its popularity is booming.

“It was quite possibly the most harrowing experience of my life,” he told us. “My heart was beating like crazy. I thought I was going to die.
“I went and lay in bed for 12 hours, then got up and came downstairs again. This went on for 60 hours. During the whole time I didn’t sleep once and I didn’t eat a thing.
“I suffered from severe paranoia and severe depression. It was terrifying.
“I thought, ‘My God – my customers have got this stuff. I need to take my sites down.’ ”

Last weekend, a 22-year-old man in Belfast was left fighting for his life after taking Benzo Fury. Three of his friends also collapsed and were rushed to hospital. BF is a man-made amphetamine which gives users a euphoric high.
It’s classed as an “entactogen” as it induces feelings of empathy similar to MDMA – ecstasy. BF is also a stimulant and a severe appetite-suppressant.
Other side-effects include hallucinations and paranoia.​
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the first story is lifted straight from 'The News Of The World' one of the UKs worst newspapers

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sco...n-flogging-deadly-Benzo-Fury-on-internet.html

the 4 casualties in belfast obviously took the same drug which also obviously wasnt 6apb

It does actually seem, that 6-APB, when genuine has quite a pleasant effect

nothing else to say on the matter
 
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I'm personaly believing that this drug isn't really catching on as predicted. So many people only got into r c's for meow, ever since there has been over hype followed by shit chems. The hype over 6apb bein an example, but its mostly only via sites like this. Everyone I know who was into rc's or just over the counter legal highs have given up and gone bk to street drugs.

The hype, the dodgy vendors, Shot self in foot. And may even ironicly save the r c market as now the popularity has gone, or is going at least, the need for new laws, and emergency bans has passed !!?
 
annaminx said:
I'm personaly believing that this drug isn't really catching on as predicted. So many people only got into r c's for meow, ever since there has been over hype followed by shit chems. The hype over 6apb bein an example, but its mostly only via sites like this. Everyone I know who was into rc's or just over the counter legal highs have given up and gone bk to street drugs.

The hype, the dodgy vendors, Shot self in foot. And may even ironicly save the r c market as now the popularity has gone, or is going at least, the need for new laws, and emergency bans has passed !!?
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Yeah you might be right particularly as methedrone has now been designated a street drug by uk government. Also i've noticed an increased availability of mdma recently and lets face it mdma spits in the face of anything else available legal or otherwise if thats the particular hit ur looking for (which I, and many others, are).

Unfortunately I still think the temporary ban of all new substances designed for human consumption (whatever the sticker says) will be passed as legislation in 2011 as planned by the powers that be. The damage has already been done by the media furore surrounding methedrone...

If all RC experimenters were genuine researchers using this and perhaps HH forum to determine correct dosage/anticipated effects/genuineness of product etc... then probably most of the media scare stories would have no basis and the future wouldn't be so uncertain. Unfortunately tho, the term 'research chemical' has become tainted as of course the vast majority of users are not researching and will take anything anybody is willing to sell them - as we've all been doing for years with Es....

so i guess the race is on to find a new method to get round the wording of next years ban, tho methedrone continues to be available a few months after the ban so i guess if anything new comes up that is actually worth taking then i guess itll be available legal or otherwise, and one thing the benzo furore has demonstrated is that legality has nothing to do with quality of product.....
 
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glenjih said:
Mephedrone. Say it with me- meph-ed-rone
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http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112092

I guess these people noticed this was happening when they used it, took the pics, then one would hope & assume QUIT using it.

Theres more discussion and a user poll here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126452

See also:

Aug 2010 Clinical characteristics of mephedrone toxicity reported to the UK National Poisons Information Service. Emergency Medical Journal
http://emj.bmj.com/content/early/2010/08/25/emj.2010.096636.full
 
i finally recieved my batch of 6-apb i ordered ages ago. it was from a reseller of O5 pellets and they didnt get any till second batch. i have ten all in individual packets as shown on here b4. all seem identical in size shape press etc. last friday i took 2 over the course of an evening and enjoyed nice effects then monday night i tried a half while at home and also had some nice mild effects. i havent got time right now but i will be trying again saturday night, probably 1 while home and i will give full details of come up, effects, comparision to my orig powder sample ect. from the friday when i took 2 it was tricky to sleep. got to bed at about 4, got straight off to sleep for maybe 3 hours then was restless for a few more hours then got up an felt fairly washed out all day. could eat till about 2 o clock. had a nap at 4 o clock for 2 hours an a little snack at about 8. went to bed at around 11 and selpt fine. was feeling fine the day after an thats when i took the half. dropped the half at around 6 30 andx was asleep in bed by half 11 no worries. woke at 6 to go to work an felt fine again.

back with more info soon
 
Holy shit, I was going to try this but I see that after shipping to the US and additional fees four doses works out to way too much. These extortioners could use a nice swift punch in the cock. There's no reason something made in Asia and sold legally should cost as much or more than MDMA. At least pretend like you have some respect for your customers.

Clearly desperate people will, in fact, pay as much for a legal drug as an illegal one. But if you're one of them before you do again ask what your integrity as a consumer is worth, because paying this much is like paying a hooker with leprosy $1,000 to kick you in the balls and steal your wallet.

This is a big opportunity for someone outside of the UK to sell internationally for reasonable prices and get the loyalty of thankful thousands of former UK vendor customers for it.

Until then, a cocktail of aMT with low dose amphetamine and mid-dose MDAI is highly effective as an MDMA-alike, and can be made for about $6 a dose. Just make sure you get all the ingredients from outside of the UK so you're not feeding this ludicrous pricing philosophy.
 
^I agree with you, I bought one of the first batch, was almost completely underwhelmed and decided that until it becomes available in powder form at a sensible price I will use my rc buying pound in more creative ways.
The trouble is that people are lapping these things up, everytime a new batch hits the uk it is sold out within hours, and no other labs seem to be able to synth the stuff, so the monopoly can charge whatever they like.
 
It's true. But on the bright side this thread is second only to the wikipedia thread when I type 6-APB into Google. I know most people investigate online before they buy. So I'll add this in the name of consumer power:

I know the amphetamine part of the cocktail I recommended in my last post is hard for some to come by, but 4-FA and aMT is also a decent and much cheaper MDMA-alike (do be careful with your dosages and don't overheat though) that's easier to acquire than amphetamine some places. Don't buy either one from UK vendors and you'll save massive amounts of cash and be less likely to get some bizarre cocktail of crap rather than pure chems. Discriminate against the Anglos with extreme prejudice until 6-APB prices come down about 50 percent.
 
psood0nym said:
Discriminate against the Anglos with extreme prejudice until prices come down about 50 percent.
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I don't think the price for AMT is too bad from UK vendors, considering the dosage is so small. Your point stands, though.
 
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