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Rti-126

No synthesis discussion :|

...but the oxadiazole is formed from a carboxylic acid which can be far more easily made into any of a variety of simple alkyl esters...
 
^^Blatant begging for spoon-feeding ... :\

What is the problem with doing some own research instead?
 
atara said:
Plus, the obvious precursor is ecgonine, which is tightly controlled.
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I'm not arguing on one side or the other but there's another equally obvious precursor for many of these phenyltropanes that does not need to be made from ecgonine which could be possibly employed.

I don't know much about the "RC" market, and I'm obviously far from a chemist but it wouldn't surprise me if the chinese could make this that someone could retail for about the same as street prices for high purity cocaine and with the sales gimmick of wikipedia saying it is "5 times stronger" and faster acting than cocaine it would be within reason that a vendor could sell this, albeit for a really high price. Whether these vendors demand profit margins higher than this could provide is another question though. Considering that 6-apb was selling for quite a bit more than high quality illicit MDMA and if they really strongly felt that this stuff would sell so well that they'd be willing to order an absolutely massive quantity I personally wouldn't be shocked, but then again I'm not a chemical engineer nor do I know anything about the "RC" market.
 
THE FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB IS NOT TO TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB, THE SECOND RULE...

..I can see it's ADD is going down that route. (tragic but necessary?! :\)
 
Problem is the movie is on basic cable and alot of people already know about these things. There's no putting the mushroom cloud back in that plutonium sphere.
 
infestedpasta said:
The people stocking this are some of the most legit people in the bis
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Indeed. Pricing is astronomical though so I doubt many suppliers will pick it up. That being said, this one owns two places so it wouldn't be hard for them to get it out there.

I'm sorry but the cries about "scam! scam! scam!" are totally baseless - this particular source has massive amounts of skrill and is bringing some other things to market which I will not disclose but seem like they will be absolutely fascinating if they work out as planned.

So. Deep pockets. Very legit source.

Now for harm reduction... :\

I don't particularly like the fact that it is 5x more potent than cocaine nor the fact that it is a potent MAO RI on top of that... I see bodies piling up in the morgue unless someone can say something to the contrary that would show it to have reduced activity or no activity or whatever.

And with the fact that BLers already take random white powders out of the mail and immediately shove "approximate" (eyeballed) amounts up their noses... Please someone calm my nerves about the danger I see and feel with this one.
 
^ is skrill is what is required to produce brown JWH 018 that looks like shit and when it was analysed turned out to be shit?

RTI-126 has 4 possible isomers, only one is significantly active, add to that, the route to the correct isomer requires a controlled precursor. who wants to take bets on this being a mixture of isomers with perhaps 30-50% at most of the correct one. or maybe they have the skrill to only make the active isomer.
 
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vecktor said:
^ is skrill is what is required to produce brown JWH 018 that looks like shit and when it was analysed turned out to be shit?
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What, no /s ? Are you actually serious?

Newsflash: That was like only a one or two month period some 2 years ago, and long ago determined that they were just reselling some crappy Chinese product. I guess you also didn't know that same vendor now produces JWH themselves in the USA?

Do you really think they have no ability to produce something novel? Are you prepared to eat your hat when they release actual RTI-126?
 
Stafos said:
What, no /s ? Are you actually serious?

Newsflash: That was like only a one or two month period some 2 years ago, and long ago determined that they were just reselling some crappy Chinese product. I guess you also didn't know that same vendor now produces JWH themselves in the USA?

Do you really think they have no ability to produce something novel? Are you prepared to eat your hat when they release actual RTI-126?
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TBH I really don't give a shit.
you are missing the point, which is none of these vendors are actually reputable.

I will be very surprised if this material turns up in any quantity. if it is being made in the US then they should be very scared.

the sole purpose of this thread appears to be to hype this product.
 
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I don't particularly like the fact that it is 5x more potent than cocaine nor the fact that it is a potent MAO RI
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What do the Maoris have to do with this? :D

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibition (MAOI) is not the same as Monoamine Reuptake Inhibition (MARI). You're confusing two concepts here.
 
vecktor said:
the sole purpose of this thread appears to be to hype this product.
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Basically someone rolled in, saying this is becomming available and wanting to know information on the chemical, others piping in asking if its safe.
Just how would you start a thread in ADD about a new RC now without someone assuming its to hype a product up?
This is getting ridiculous.

what, is the answer to close all threads pertaining to possibly active drugs until the population is flooded with it, or wait till people are dying?
when is it ok to start a thread so as to not have it "hype up" a new chemical? ...

Fuck, bluelight probably spurred on the X generation 2000 - present... OH NOEZ BLUELIGHT HYPED UP MDMA.

Either offer the information or you might as well close bluelight, because this bullshit from all these bleeding heart do gooders saying bluelight is somehow making things worse is becomming a shit stain on the boards.

/coffee overloaded rant

tl;dr : lets just drop this shit and get on with harm minimisation and get the information about possible problems as early as possible. Bluelight or not, people will still try new drugs.
 
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^ When, a very long time ago, someone posted about some unknown compound, the advice was: "Nothing is known about it. If you absolutely MUST take it, start low, then start lower than what you picked for low, and don't even think about it without a mg scale."

Now here is a new compound about which absolutely nothing is known.

What do you propose for harm minimization that has not been said already about the other compound about which absolutely nothing is known?
 
Jamshyd said:
What do you propose for harm minimization that has not been said already about the other compound about which absolutely nothing is known?
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If it is a SAR-expected stimulant, one would expect deleterious physical reactions more than one would with a clearly expected psychedelic.

If it is a SAR-expected stimulant + maoi, one should consider it too dangerous to test, even with a conservative, Shulginesque procedure.

So I consider the speculation worthwhile, but not insofar as it turns into vendor-hype.

ebola
 
ebola? said:
If it is a SAR-expected stimulant, one would expect deleterious physical reactions more than one would with a clearly expected psychedelic.

If it is a SAR-expected stimulant + maoi, one should consider it too dangerous to test, even with a conservative, Shulginesque procedure.

So I consider the speculation worthwhile, but not insofar as it turns into vendor-hype.

ebola
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Thanks! few dudes ended up with some hopefully its not the #2
are people so hyped due to the "high potency, 5x, bla"
 
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