I think im some sort of freak!

[chillhill]

Okay I just started rolling about 4 months ago. The first time I did it and it was awesome and i was a little depressed after but nothing crazy. Anyways, i've done it about 10-15 times after that and I will roll for about an hour and a half and then just be done. No depression AT ALL. The ones I get are always speed based, and for some reason speed (I know this sounds dumb) makes me lethargic. Adderall and Riddlin will also make me lethargic, I don't know why, but it will also give me a slight bit of euphoria. So after a roll for only about an hour or so (and I roll pretty hard, so its not like I need to take more) it'll just pretty stop, I wont be depressed or down at all, I actually like the comedown because the speed will still be in me and I will feel euphoric from that. Not only that but I can go to sleep practically on ectasy if I wanted too. I also tend to get great sleep on the nights that I do it. Everyone I tell this too is like "dude theres no way!"

This is my first post and I was just wondering what other people might have to think about it!

Thanks!

 

[AfterGlow]

I think 10-15 times over 4 months is TOO MUCH! Give it a good long break. And then test your pills and use pill reports to give yourself the best chance of getting good clean pills containing only high dose MDMA with no adulterants.

 

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^ Agreed. While people can and do get away with rolling every weekend for a little while, it will eventually start to take a toll. The common recommendation on this forum is at least a month's break between doses, but even longer wouldn't hurt you.

I'm not sure what you mean by "speed-based". Ecstasy is supposed to contain one active ingredient: MDMA. True, Ecstasy these days is cut with a variety of other things, (and frequently with speed, like you mentioned), but again, ideally, it shouldn't and doesn't have to contain anything other than MDMA.

To answer your question with a question: do you take prescription adderall or ritalin regularly, for ADD perhaps? If so, you probably have a bit of an amphetamine tolerance, explaining why it would make you sleepy. Pure MDMA (i.e. without any other stimulant in it) is often very relaxing, even to the point where people who get pure MDMA think they have "heroin-based" E. You may either have the aforementioned amphetamine tolerance, simply not be very susceptible to the "speedy" effects of amphetamines, or you're getting unusually pure pills. Hopefully it's the last of those options )), but listen to AfterGlow and check/test your pills for your safety.

 

[chillhill]

^ Agreed. While people can and do get away with rolling every weekend for a little while, it will eventually start to take a toll. The common recommendation on this forum is at least a month's break between doses, but even longer wouldn't hurt you.

I'm not sure what you mean by "speed-based". Ecstasy is supposed to contain one active ingredient: MDMA. True, Ecstasy these days is cut with a variety of other things, (and frequently with speed, like you mentioned), but again, ideally, it shouldn't and doesn't have to contain anything other than MDMA.

To answer your question with a question: do you take prescription adderall or ritalin regularly, for ADD perhaps? If so, you probably have a bit of an amphetamine tolerance, explaining why it would make you sleepy. Pure MDMA (i.e. without any other stimulant in it) is often very relaxing, even to the point where people who get pure MDMA think they have "heroin-based" E. You may either have the aforementioned amphetamine tolerance, simply not be very susceptible to the "speedy" effects of amphetamines, or you're getting unusually pure pills. Hopefully it's the last of those options )), but listen to AfterGlow and check/test your pills for your safety.

Nope not prescribed. I use to do this all nighter thing at a hospital and so I tried taking my friends adderall and riddlin a couple of times to help stay up and they almost put me to sleep lol. I've also tried alot of different tabs or whatever. mostly, Purple Rhinos, Red and Blue Maseratis, Blue and Green Playboys, Red and Orange Superman I think thats most of them, in the Dallas Area. I don't know, I'm shocked at it from all the other stories I hear. Cause for example, I'll take some at 8pm, start peaking at about 8:30, peak for about an hour and then it'll just stop and i'll be completely normal and happy at around 10pm


oh and yeah, tonights the last night I'm rolling for a long time! I'm going to pop 4tabs, all 4 are different. I've never tried taking them at different times, is that better?

 

[RGB]

There are a few possibilities. You may not be getting much if any MDMA in your pills. You might be taking such a huge initial dose that you're actually shortening the experience. Alternatively, your definition of "normal and happy" might be what other people consider to be "rolling" -- basically, your expectations of the intensity of the experience might be too high. You've likely also acquired a large tolerance to MDMA from large doses and frequent use.

Er, and ideally you shouldn't be taking a handful of pills...if they're any good, you should take one or two and be good for a while. For instance, I take one (possibly 1.5 if it's a weak pill), and follow it with either a half or a whole an hour or two after the first and I'm good for the night. MDMA doesn't have the kind of dose/response curve that a lot of other substances have -- once you've exceeded a certain amount (150-200mg), you're essentially going to roll face for approximately 4-6 hours regardless of additional dosage. Taking any more after you've come down will usually extend the speedy effects (jaw clenching, feeling wired, etc.), but won't recapture that "bliss"-like feeling of the peak/plateau.

As for different types of pills: the only things that will vary between them is the amount of MDMA (the important part) and less importantly whatever (if anything) they've been cut with. You don't need to sample different types of pills to find one you like or try to get different effects by mixing them. The overwhelming majority are just cut with extra stimulants anyway, so if you want to achieve the same effect with less guesswork you could just take a couple Adderall with your hopefully pure MDMA pills and get the same effect. Once you know a pill contains MDMA (and hopefully only MDMA), stick with taking only that one and you should be fine. While it's hard to hurt yourself on MDMA alone, taking a cocktail of drugs of varying effective dosages multiplied by the number of pills you take is a recipe for disaster.

 

[eon_blue]

I'm the same way when it comes to rolling for a short amount of time. If I take one good pill (pokeball), I'll only roll for about an hour and a half and then the comedown hits me. I'm the type of person that is overly aware of what a comedown feels like so the minute I start to feel it happening, I'm done for the night. I don't do comedowns well, lol.

I generally take a pill every 45 minutes to keep my roll going if I'm at an event, and since I try to never exceed 4-5 in a night, I usually only roll for about 4-5 hours.

It's not a tolerance issue as I only ever roll once every 2 or 3 months.