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Nitrous Oxide- Exp.- Me, myself and the Evil Eye.

Vader

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I have used nitrous oxide with some degree of regularity for many years now. It is one of my favourite substances, and I find its effects to be unique and fantastic. For me, it has always produced a wonderful state of euphoria, tactile and auditory hallucination, dissociation and a sense of noesis.

However, recently I have been experiencing some very strange and novel effects. On returning home from the pub, about a week ago, I decided to take a little nitrous, and filled a balloon with 2 chargers worth (16g). I inhaled as I normally do, and felt myself slip toward the state of anaesthesia that I generally enjoy. However, rather than the usual sense of mystical insight and simple fractals that I usually enjoy as a result of nitrous oxide inhalation, I was stunned to find myself sitting next to myself- that is, to my right there was a person who looked exactly like me. I will refer to this twin as “him” for the duration of this report, for the more I encountered him, the more it became apparent that, though he looks like me, he has a personality quite of his own. I stared, open mouthed in shock, when my twin said "Don't look at me, you're over there", and pointed. I looked where he had indicated, and saw him now running across the room. My vision was suddenly obstructed by a large red balloon inflating, upon the surface of which his face became apparent, until he opened his eyes and mouth wide, and the balloon burst in my face. When I recovered from this shock, he appeared again, running across the room. Once more, he said “Don’t look at me, you’re over there”, and pointed to a photograph that I have framed on my wall, a black and white photograph of a comedian. However, the face in the photograph was transformed, and was my own. At this point, I emerged from the dissociative state, and my first encounter with my twin was complete.

I was, of course, amazed and intrigued by these bizarre new effects I had experienced, and began to use nitrous oxide rather more regularly, several times a day. Each time that I entered the hole, I met him again. It became apparent that he had a mischievous personality- he would try to play tricks on me. For instance, he once appeared on the surface of the balloon from which I was about to inhale, the opening becoming his mouth, and I was so shocked that I released it, letting it fly around the room. However, his antics were often highly entertaining, and he would do different tricks for my pleasure, flitting and fleeting about, appearing and disappearing, always catching me off guard. His shadow would suddenly be cast upon the wall, performing fire eating; the next instant, he would be standing before me, and throw a cloud of glitter into my face before vanishing once more. He would appear dancing, and then suddenly his face would be inches from mine, bursting a balloon in front of me. His face would appear on any surface, and often catch me off guard, as this happened sometimes after I had emerged from the “hole” to which such illusions are usually restricted. I found this relationship so compelling that I used nitrous with greater and greater frequency, constantly wishing to spend more time with my trickster twin.

However, last night, he suddenly became quite sinister. There had always been a darkness to him, as one would expect from such a prankster. This, though, was something quite new. I inhaled my balloon, as had so many times before, and lay back to enjoy the effects. I felt the familiar feeling begin come over me, but then it seemed to fade instantly, so that I in fact felt completely normal. I was bemused, and I thought to myself that usually he would have appeared by now. Then, he appeared for the briefest of instants before vanishing again, running at such a speed that he was almost a blur, then once more he revealed himself, still sprinting, for an equally brief instant. Then, suspended in mid-air, his face materialised, but this time it was ghostly, ethereal, but detached from any object. This was quite different to his usual trick of having his face emerge from some solid object. He opened his mouth, as if to moan or scream, then the face slowly dissipated, like smoke blown by the breeze. I felt myself begin to emerge, when suddenly he was next to me, looming over me, leering and grimacing. I screamed. I have never, ever, screamed as a result of a drug induced experience before, even as my ego was torn to shreds on my most intense mushroom trips. This was truly scary.

When I emerged, this time for real, I thought to myself “That bastard! He really got me that time! I‘ll be damned if his tricks don‘t become more devious, more cunning and convincing each time we meet!”.

So, I filled myself another balloon, and inhaled. This time, there was no question of it being a simple prank. He had turned malevolent. Three of him stood in front of me, all silently staring at me, eyes wide open, their teeth bared in awful grins. The entire room became shrouded in darkness, and entities that I can only describe as ghosts or spirits began first ascending the walls, like shadows, then slowly creeping across the floor and into the air, towards me, until they began to wind around me, engulfing me in their dark, wispy forms. My doppelgangers remained motionless, perfectly still, and yet their eyes and grins seemed to grow inexorably wider. I realised that this was what it was like to have a bad trip; not just a difficult or challenging experience, but pure, unrelenting terror. At that moment, I was incredibly glad that nitrous oxide has such a short duration; though I managed to stay calm and rational, I doubt I could have maintained that for long. I am sure that, had I known that I had to endure such a state for hours, and not mere seconds, I would have despaired. However, I thankfully began to emerge from that horrid place. He had one more bit of wickedness up his sleeve, though- he appeared next to me, and clutched at me, gripping my bicep, as he faded away.

I have yet to use any more nitrous. On the one hand, I am fascinated by this unfolding drama, and desire to resolve whatever issue is manifesting itself in such a way. On the other hand, I am, frankly, scared. If anyone has experienced something similar, or has an opinion on how I should proceed from here, or would like to offer an analysis of what these visions might mean (or of what the underlying issue might be or whatever) I would be very grateful to hear it.

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I have submitted this report (slightly edited) to Erowid with the ID# 87193.
 
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I have done thousands of lungs of nitrous and am very familiar with the insane practical jokes played upon me... by my own personal unconcious memory bank that is somehow faster than me and can beat me to the punch to set up the craziest shit. (Which often involves intense jokes around nitrous mixed into weird paradoxes around everything that I know.)

As goofy as it sounds, after seeing so much I do believe the concept of a multiverse very well could be real. Also, this : http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm

And yeah, sometimes the tactile, visual, and auditory hallucinations tied together to make such insane shit I would chicken out. (About 90 percent of these lungs have been done on big doses of 2c-i, mdma, dxm, ketamine, dmt, mushrooms, cannabis, and many others in random combos.)
 
Yeah, the fucker's always one step ahead of me. Every time you learn to anticipate something, he comes up with something even more off the wall.
 
I have freaked out so many times waking up on nitrous lol, the transition from passing out to these weird visions that blend in transition back to the real world always line up so amazingly and utilize all of my scientific and artistic knowledge to make something that I seem to know so well.
 
Is this with just nitrous or combined with other stuff? I've done a lot of nitrous but haven't had anything like what you are experiencing. I would give nitrous a rest for a bit if I were you. It's probably not that good to dwell on why it is happening or what it could mean, there are no real answers to why it is happening.
 
This is both nitrous alone and in combination with with cannabis and alcohol, but no other psychedelics or dissociatives (actually, I used DMT at low doses on one day, but I don't think that was significant). I too have used it for many years without experiencing anything like this, as I say these effects were totally new to me, and only began around a week ago. The sinister stuff only happened yesterday (and was in combination with alcohol and cannabis). I have only had fractal/geometric visuals before, even when combined with 2Cs or mushrooms. These vivid, intense visions are completely new. I rather think that there must be some specific cause to this, it just seems so bizarre that, after years of use, these radically new effects manifest, and that there is such a degree of recurrence with so many specific details; there must be something my subconscious is trying to force to the surface (or some other semi-sensical pop-psych diagnosis).
 
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Is this with just nitrous or combined with other stuff? I've done a lot of nitrous but haven't had anything like what you are experiencing. I would give nitrous a rest for a bit if I were you. It's probably not that good to dwell on why it is happening or what it could mean, there are no real answers to why it is happening.


As somebody who does about a case a month now instead of as much as I want, I would say that you should ponder the paradoxical nature of the psychedelic experience. I think it might mean something and coming to terms with that and spending time sober exploring the unknown in a holistic sense is what led to my cut down use, not confusing my ego further through repression

There are no objective answers to anything really, refusing to dwell upon life because of it's relative nature is goofy. What I had to learn to stop being such a nitrous addict was why I was being an addict. (This makes me confident that I won't binge like I used to, I'm not interested in forgetting about one addiction as the void space will be filled by an ever creative ego if it isn't filled out yourself.)
 
Yerg -> It is quite weird, it is interesting you mentioned DMT as your experiences reminded me of reports I have read about it. I wonder if somehow the DMT triggered this?

nopipesdfw -> I agree that pondering and reflecting on psycedelic experiences is important and worthwhile. What I was trying to say I guess is that if you view stuff like this as a magical enconter with an entity it could lead eventually to having completely magical thinking and going a bit nuts. I suppose it might well be an encounter but it is not that useful to fully believe that if you want to function normally everyday. BTW I have similar experiences of drug experiences making me cut down on drugs.
 
I smoked DMT a few days after the initial experience, and only at a low dose, and I hadn't used any for months beforehand, so I'd be very reluctant to identify it as a trigger, it just seems very unlikely to me.

btw, I do not by any means think that "he" is actually an independent entity, it's just a figment of my imagination, but speaking of him as a person in his own right is convenient. It's simpler to say "him" than "this figment of my imagination". I'm not prone to magical thinking. If I actually thought that this was a real person, who was only visible when I was on nitrous, I'd probably be sectioned.
 
Have been on the nitrous today, and "he" has only appeared briefly, and has been completely good-natured and well-behaved.
 
There's another strange effect that I have only just recalled; when "he" breathes fire, embers fall on me, and I can feel them burn. It doesn't hurt as such, but the tactile hallucination of heat is very clear and distinct.
 
are you sure you havent got any underlying schizophrenia or something? that sounds fucked up
 
Can anyone be sure they don't have a latent mental problem? The hallucinations don't persist after they should, if you see what I mean; when I'm sober, I'm sober. However, I have decided to lay off the nitrous for a little while. Both my best friend and my other half have expressed concern, and I myself feel that I am beginning to stretch the fabric of my sanity. The visions become more intense and realistic with each use (earlier tonight, "he" threw a scrap of paper into my mouth, and the visual and tactile perceptions of it sticking to my tongue were so realistic that I spat it out, and the entire experience was so convincing and confusing that it was only when I emerged that I realised that it was illusory, and that "he" had not actually managed to cause effects in the real world). When reality and hallucination begin to blur, I think it's best to give it a rest.
 
I always find it weird when people describe hallucinations on nitrous. for me its just a really euphoric feeling and makes music sound awesome the only mental affect i get is sometimes confusion but its mostly just a euphoric feeling for me not really psychedelic at all, and most of my friends never mention anything either I do have one friend who says he creates little scenarios or storyies in his head or some shit which he always geeks out at but I always thought he was just a weirdo but I guess other people out there get that shit to.
 
actually thinking about it i do get a small hallucination, there is this person in the corner of my eye, but i cant actually see him its just a strange kind of outline image, other than that everything reverbs like fuck and i feel euphoric and spaced out for a minute or so. few other friends have had crazy hallucinations though, one of them thought i stood up and pissed on him, when in reality i was still sat next to him smoking a cig
 
Hello guys, it's my first post here, I've been reading a lot for some time and seeing this thread I decided to contribute and try to help!

OP, I could be wrong, but you could have a Vitamin B12 deficiency.

Nitrous oxide inactivates the cobalamin form of vitamin B12 by oxidation. Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency, including sensory neuropathy, myelopathy, and encephalopathy, can occur within days or weeks of exposure to nitrous oxide anesthesia in people with subclinical vitamin B12 deficiency.[citation needed] Symptoms are treated with high doses of vitamin B12, but recovery can be slow and incomplete.[57] People with normal vitamin B12 levels have stores to make the effects of nitrous oxide insignificant, unless exposure is repeated and prolonged (nitrous oxide abuse).[citation needed] Vitamin B12 levels should be checked in people with risk factors for vitamin B12 deficiency prior to using nitrous oxide anesthesia.

Source : Wikipedia, Nitrous Oxide

B12 deficiency can also cause symptoms of mania, psychosis, fatigue, memory impairment, irritability, depression and personality changes.

Source : Wikipedia, Vitamin B12 deficiency

So maybe doing nitrous oxide with a B12 deficiency triggers the psychosis.
IMHO, you should try to get tested for this or take B12 supplementation, because such a deficiency can be quite dangerous.
 
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