Hey guys, 1st time poster but a long time lurker. I've been using OCs for 12+ years. The last year I've been on Suboxone, but still dabble w/ the Os every cpl weeks or so. I got 3 of the 80mg OPs today to see what the deal was for myself. I'd been reading everything I could about how to "beat" them for the last 2 weeks since they started showing up in my area.
I wasn't very optimistic about the chances but after talking to my guy and having him tell me how others were doing them I decided I would give it a try.
My typical dosage now is 160-240mgs. I usu start out sniffing 160 and then an hour or so later hit the other 80. It had been 48 hrs since my last dose of suboxone, which was somewhere between .5-1mgs (yeah I know that's not much but I've weaned myself down to 2-4mgs/day over the past 12 mos).
Anyway, dude told me the following:
Leave coating on.
Put them in the microwave for 12 seconds, then shave them down w/ a ped egg (thing you get dead skin off feet with) at which point "you can use them however you would normally use them".
Well I've done IV and oral, obviously, but sniffing is my delivery method of choice, so that's what I did.
I put 2 80s in the microwave for 12-15 seconds and then took one of them and started grinding it against the ped egg. It didn't turn to powder but more like flakes. When I got about halfway thru there was a small clump that was almost like a piece of cotton. It was too big to snort and wouldn't break up so I put it in my mouth while I finished grinding the remainder. I ended up getting a pair of needle nose pliers and was able to grind it all down except for just a tiny piece, smalled that 1/4 of the pill. Couldn't grind it b/c it was what I was holding onto. So I popped it in my mouth. I proceeded to snort what I had grated down. It didn't go down as smooth as the originals obviously, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well I was able to snort it and get it all.
Before starting w/ the 2nd 80, I decided to nuke it a little more, so I put it back in the microwave for 20 seconds or so. Again, WITH THE COATING STILL ON.
I then took it and repeated what I did w/ the 1st one and it did basically the same, got about halfway ground up and a little piece of material almost like cotton falls out which I put in mouth and then the little piece at the end of grinding that I put in my mouth. I was able to snort up the rest, again w/out any clogging. This was around 4:30pm central time (it's almost 8pm central now).
I didn't get the instant rush feeling I get from that taste/feel I know so well, but w/in 10 mins I could tell I had done something. W/in 15 mins my pupils were tiny.
30 minutes into it I'm feeling wired (like I do now that I'm not using everyday) and I'm bouncing around all over the grocery store.
By 6pm (90 minutes in) my girlfriend asks me what I'm on. She thinks I don't use anything but the Subs now and she could tell I was high.
2hours in I'm bouncing around the house, cleaning, etc. and sweating like I do w/ the originals.
I'm high as eagle pussy right now in case you can't tell from this rambling post.
I wouldn't have gone thru the hassle of logging in and typing all this shit on my Blackberry if it wasn't legit. On a scale of 1-10 w/ 10 being the originals, I would say its at least a 9.5. It was a little more trouble to get it prepped but not too bad and I'm definitely pleased.
Prices here on the few originals that are still out there have gone from 60-70 bucks for an 80 to 100-120. But I got these OPs for $50. I was taking a gamble by trying them, but my curiousity was killing me. Since I hav e the Subs and don't HAVE to have the Os anymore there was no way in hell I was going to pay $80 for an 80 (and I have plenty of times over the years) much less $100+ I figured I'd give these OPs a try and if they worked, great, if not then I was through w/ Os.
Anyway, I hope this comes in helpful to someone. I know people on message boards take what a new poster says w/ a grain of salt, but I'm telling you the truth. They can be beat. I can't say in regards to those who want to cook them for IV use, but apparently the method mentioned a few posts up (heating them in oven) works. All my other user friends bang theirs so when they get tired of paying $100+ or the originals that are still out there are gone, I guess they will try. Until then I can't say.
Hopefully my Roxi guy will get out of jail soon as I like the Roxis (made by Malli) as well as an O for the most part and they are definitely the easiest to crush/snort. Until then I guess I will be using the microwave and Ped Egg.
Sorry for the length but I did want to get this information out there to those who sniff their Os.
Oh, 1 last thing. The person who told me about the method I used and outlined above, said that after you shave them down w/ the Ped Egg that you could "do them however you normally do them", implying cook them as well as sniff. I just didn't try it but doubt it was a lie since it worked for me to sniff. May not cook up exactly like the old ones, but I'm sure you guys who like using the rigs will figure it out.
Enjoy!
