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The Big & Dandy 2C-P Thread

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Yeah, I would definitely not take this one in a club or rave type setting. This is for a few close friends or alone... it's introspective and tends to make me feel withdrawn, although with good friends it can be socially opening in the right setting. 2C-P is very intense... it pretty much floors me. It's like a much more physically intense version of 2C-E with quite a bit less mental clarity. I certainly prefer 2C-E by a good margin, but both are great substances.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Bumping this up, got my hands on some of this and can find noone to discuss the experience with. Took 10mg and have to say this stuff was extremely intense, had stronger visuals than I've ever had, kept getting real ancient/egyptian themed visuals such as eyes, pyramids and elephants.
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I found this very interesting. On one particular experience, 12 mgs insufflated, I also experienced a heavy Ancient Egyptian theme. Incredibly intricate and shifting textures on Egyptian goddess forms constantly folding and unfurling. I'm sure it goes without saying that this description really doesn't come close to expressing how absolutely marvelous it was.

Incredible substance.
 
Addam said:
I found this very interesting. On one particular experience, 12 mgs insufflated, I also experienced a heavy Ancient Egyptian theme. Incredibly intricate and shifting textures on Egyptian goddess forms constantly folding and unfurling. I'm sure it goes without saying that this description really doesn't come close to expressing how absolutely marvelous it was.

Incredible substance.
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My girlfriend also experienced similar visuals to mine, so this could be visuals associated with the drug.

Regarding taking at a rave, yeah I highly don't recommend this. We took it at a festival and even experienced a silent rave during the peak. Really messed us up, the whole other duration of the trip was spent floored in a tent, unable to move observing the visuals. Really put me on a whole other level of psychedelics, anyone else want to contribute, as I'm interested in hearing others after having my own with such a strong substance.
 
Help?!?! said:
Finally getting around to restocking this one after its long absence.<3 Can't wait for 20ish hours of full on psychedelic power.
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Did you find it gives a heavy body load? I found myself on the come up really struggling to move around, my chest also felt tight at points during the trip as well as some nausea. I think this was also due to the intensity of the experience, as my numerous LSD and shroom trips were nothing compared to this.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Did you find it gives a heavy body load? I found myself on the come up really struggling to move around, my chest also felt tight at points during the trip as well as some nausea. I think this was also due to the intensity of the experience, as my numerous LSD and shroom trips were nothing compared to this.
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I actually felt it had a lesser but more distinct bodyload than 2c-e. I however am in the odd group who likes the body feeling provided by 2c-e/p. Just try to lower the dose next time(although I find bodyload to be a random experience usually its stronger with higher doses).
 
pork, dose of 2c-p is about 10mg while 2c-e is like 25, but the curve for 2c-p is much more absurd. 14mg od 2c-p has been described as similar to 40-50mg of 2c-e.

2c-p is intense as hell, I tripped on it last night, a fairly small dose, (4mg or less plugged) and it was rather insane, the body tension was absurd and the visuals were like 200mics of lsd I'm actually nervous about taking a full dose of 2c-p
 
thanks for the info^^^, but i was actually asking Xorkoth at what doses does he compare the physical intensity of 2cp and 2ce.

but i haven't read about the steeper curve for 2cp, at least not so specifically. i've taken 2ce about 20 times, but never more than 20 mg. i'll probably start with 8.5 mg 2cp
 
Help?!?! said:
I actually felt it had a lesser but more distinct bodyload than 2c-e. I however am in the odd group who likes the body feeling provided by 2c-e/p. Just try to lower the dose next time(although I find bodyload to be a random experience usually its stronger with higher doses).
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Yeah, I'm in the same camp as you. I don't have any negative bodyload, except for a bit on the comeup but once the trip fully develops it feels good. I've enjoyed all my 2C-P trips aside from one where I only took 8mg and it never really developed nicely. I really like the 11-13mg range.
 
porkstock said:
more physically intense in what way? and what dose range for each substance?
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I mean that 2C-P I find has a strong body element every time I do it. I like it after it develops fully but until then it can be quite intense, a bit disconcerting but not BAD per se.

In contrast, 2C-E for me produces a lightness in the body and a radiating warm glow that makes me feel luxurious and nice. It really feels pretty nice from the start. It's worth noting that I almost always plug my 2C-Xs as I find it greatly reduces bodyload. So my comparisons are made between plugged doses of both 2C-E and 2C-P.

I am also one of those who really lies the body feel from 2C-E. And also 2C-P, but not nearly as much. The first few times I used 2C-E I was much less comfotrable with psychedelics and I had somewhat rough times mentally, except for the very first time where I had a pleasant mental trip. That first time I really enjoyed the body feel, and the next few times where I had hectic experiences, the bodyload felt really severe, vomiting, discomfort, basically feeling poisoned. I've come to realize that 2C-E is VERY psychosomatic. Nowadays I really don't get ANY bodyload from 2C-E, just a really warm humming glow radiating from my solar plexus that feels really luxurious and good. It's actually my favorite body feeling from any 2C-X because it feels so light but solid and so pleasant and magical and organic.
 
interesting to hear about others experience of this substance. I found the body load to be minimal & i felt relatively clear headed. This was with reasonably low doses though, 8.5 & 12mg were the doses i took to actually trip. had done a few lower dose tests that gave me a significant body buzz that i was expecting to increase with higher dosages, but it really didn't. YMMV.

I agree with Xorkoth about 2c-e's psychosomatic tendencies. I felt 2c-p to be a bit more recreational & less "serious," could've been set & setting related though
 
I prefer 2c-p's body energy to 2c-e's. IME it's frequency is slower and deeper feeling, while 2c-e's is more hectic and unstable. I'm weird though. I get almost zero body load from t-2 and t-7, but I sometimes get nausea from 2c-e. I agree it is psychosomatic, and usually caused by introspecting upon some of my sore spots. 2c-p is really energizing and comfortable for me, but even still it has caused some nausea. Again psychosomatic, usually from being uncomfortable in my surroundings for some reason.
 
I dont see what the problem is. Yes there is a long duration, but you know that before you take it so plan the occasion accordingly.

I found it was great for festivals. Take in the early daytime and it keeps you going for the most of the day. Its good fun in the light, not the night..IMO.

3 occasions now and I've enjoyed every one, as I could say did 9/10 of the other people who also joined in.
 
Shakti said:
I prefer 2c-p's body energy to 2c-e's. IME it's frequency is slower and deeper feeling, while 2c-e's is more hectic and unstable. I'm weird though. I get almost zero body load from t-2 and t-7, but I sometimes get nausea from 2c-e. I agree it is psychosomatic, and usually caused by introspecting upon some of my sore spots. 2c-p is really energizing and comfortable for me, but even still it has caused some nausea. Again psychosomatic, usually from being uncomfortable in my surroundings for some reason.
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You summed it up very nicely, I experience what you outlined there as well. And like you I also experience essentially zero body load from T-7 (haven't had the chance to try T-2). Right on. I'm going pay extra attention to these things once I take 2C-P again and report back.
 
if the body load is partially psychosomatic, then paying extra attention to it might be counter productive ;)
 
I am interested in trying this, but I hope the body load isn't overwhelming and distracting/jittery in the way 2C-E is.

Anyone help allay my anxieties?
 
fractal fountain said:
I am interested in trying this, but I hope the body load isn't overwhelming and distracting/jittery in the way 2C-E is.

Anyone help allay my anxieties?
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well, I can say i agree with xorkoth here when I say plugging it is FAR better in regards to the body load. the first two tries with my 2c-p I did one plugged one oral, and I must say I'll never do it orally again lol
overwhelming? sometimes, but not often. distracting? jittery? certainly not. not in my opinion. the one issue I had with 2c-p body wise, was my chest being tight, and not being able to breathe well in the early hours of the trip. I find it relaxing, but at the same time very energetic, I kinda tend to feel like there's a current waving through me, it feels amazing. however, regardless of the energy, I feel it's very easy to lay back, relax, and stare at the kaleidescope that is my ceiling
 
Okay so I have the chance to try this one... I've done 2C-I and 2C-E in ... lots of amounts. 2C-I produced stimulation that made the whole trip entirely uncomfortable and almost panicky at times. 2C-E is stimulating as well but not even comparable to MDA in my experience... where does 2C-P fall in the CNS stimulation? And wow, something more visual than 2C-E? This is I have to see...
 
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