Something I want to try with E and I know it's not a good idea

[ExSaint1379]

I mainly do drugs for the experience of it. I've never been addicted to anything (well maybe caffeine, but I sometimes go without it, and I have a hard time telling the difference; if tea, and diet coke didn't have caffeine, I'd never take it). I've done E probably 11 times now, and I kinda want to try rolling for like a day. I've taken one and then one about an hour from the first tone to make it last, but I've never rolled for more than about 6 or 7 hours. I haven't made up my mind to do this, and I'm wondering why not to do this?

 

[rollinboobs]

you wont roll all day. you will roll for about your 6-7 hours then you will just be cracked out and feel like your doing meth. unfortunately when you stop come down off your roll its not always because theres no mdma or serotonin left, its because your serotonin receptors sort of shut down as a defense mechanism to prevent damage from the massive release of serotonin. all remaining serotonin in the synapse is then put to waste instead of used or re upped.

some people will have better luck that others. i cannot roll two days in a row or for longer than like you said 6-7 hours.

 

[vancbc]

The way that you have been taking pills by taking one and then another one about an hour later so you extend your roll is probably going to give you the best MDMA high.

I've done extended dosing to extend the high for 12 to 16 hours, and it doesn't really go very well. What happens after about 6 to 7 hours is that when you take a pill you don't feel it in the same way. You get slightly euphoric with a little bit of a mood lift and neither one lasts very long at all. For me there would start to be some nausea, sweating episodes and a cracked out feeling. The more you keep redosing the less the good effects become and then it just becomes about trying to feel "normal" to avoid the comedown - and when you do come down you'll find out just how bad a comedown can be and how long it can last.

Possible side effects (I've experienced all) are diarrhea, nausea, inflamed salivary glands, vomiting / retching episodes, wild mood swings, brain zaps, vertigo / dizziness, irritability, depression, anxiety, depersonalization, inability to think clearly or make decisions and generally feeling like total shit. During the worst part of the crash you may either think you're going to die or you may wish you could die. Once you pull through that phase things slowly get better over several days to a week - depending on how much you overdid. After a week you may have lingering effects such as anxiety and depression for up to a month or more.

 

[AylaV]

I mainly do drugs for the experience of it. I've never been addicted to anything (well maybe caffeine, but I sometimes go without it, and I have a hard time telling the difference; if tea, and diet coke didn't have caffeine, I'd never take it). I've done E probably 11 times now, and I kinda want to try rolling for like a day. I've taken one and then one about an hour from the first tone to make it last, but I've never rolled for more than about 6 or 7 hours. I haven't made up my mind to do this, and I'm wondering why not to do this?

You won't be able to manage this. Think of your body's store of serotonin like a gas tank. When you use MDMA, it drains the gas out of the gas tank until at some point it's on empty. This is what happens when you do E. When your tank is empty it's empty and no amount of redosing will get you to roll longer.

Only drug I've rolled longer than six hours on was mephedrone where I managed to experience empathogenic effects for ten hours =)

 

[Poundcake]

I've found that the easiest way to extend your roll, or to bring it back from the start of a comedown, is to change your environment.

Last time I rolled, I went about 12 hours, after about 8 i was beginning to comedown, and I had taken another about an hour before I started to comedown. I decided to go out walking around my neighborhood with my roomate, and during the walk it picked back up...wayyy back up. I was back to full swing again like I had just started for the night. Now it didnt stay at that peak for the rest of the 4 hours or so I was rolling, but it came back hard and stayed there.

So thats something you can try, just try to change it up and see if that will let your brain change how its functioning for a bit.

 

[ExSaint1379]

The longest it tends to last is when I get a someone who hasn't done it to try it once, and I take more than one (usually an hour after the first one). That's when I've gotten 7 hours. Hmm, I always thought people continued going for a long time at raves. Is that just an urban legend?

 

[matt2012]

People munch pills like crazy all the time and say "I rolled for like 3 days" and its just not the case. sure they felt something but the rolling/luved up feelings are long gone and eventually the only effect is a mild stimulant effect. the people who say they rolled for so long just don't realize that good effects are not hitting them and all they are getting is the stim effect. If they would take some time to accutally learn how MDMA works they would realize they are only waisting money and pills tryinig to roll for that long and fooling themselves into thinking it is accutally happening.

 

[socalthizzn]

you wont roll all day. you will roll for about your 6-7 hours then you will just be cracked out and feel like your doing meth. unfortunately when you stop come down off your roll its not always because theres no mdma or serotonin left, its because your serotonin receptors sort of shut down as a defense mechanism to prevent damage from the massive release of serotonin. all remaining serotonin in the synapse is then put to waste instead of used or re upped.

some people will have better luck that others. i cannot roll two days in a row or for longer than like you said 6-7 hours.

Truth

 

[dhopeless]

Although I don't have any science to back it, I swear I can roll consecutively quite a few times. In the beginning of the summer I abused the shit of E. I started off doing tons of molly, and then switched to some pills that I got consistently until I got incarcerated. Now of course when I got back and had gone a month and a half without E it was way way better, but I do remember wondering what people were talking about that had no luck redosing. Is there any biological anomaly that could explain this? I suppose I simply did not realize what I was missing, but even after rolling for 3 days if I waited a couple days it felt like a drug 'experience', not simply a high. I know I was getting MDMA too, I tested it. Even wierder, I NEVER got any bad comedowns. Am I just fucked up?

 

[RGB]

Although I don't have any science to back it, I swear I can roll consecutively quite a few times. In the beginning of the summer I abused the shit of E. I started off doing tons of molly, and then switched to some pills that I got consistently until I got incarcerated. Now of course when I got back and had gone a month and a half without E it was way way better, but I do remember wondering what people were talking about that had no luck redosing. Is there any biological anomaly that could explain this? I suppose I simply did not realize what I was missing, but even after rolling for 3 days if I waited a couple days it felt like a drug 'experience', not simply a high. I know I was getting MDMA too, I tested it. Even wierder, I NEVER got any bad comedowns. Am I just fucked up?

People munch pills like crazy all the time and say "I rolled for like 3 days" and its just not the case. sure they felt something but the rolling/luved up feelings are long gone and eventually the only effect is a mild stimulant effect. the people who say they rolled for so long just don't realize that good effects are not hitting them and all they are getting is the stim effect. If they would take some time to accutally learn how MDMA works they would realize they are only waisting money and pills tryinig to roll for that long and fooling themselves into thinking it is accutally happening.

I agree with matt, but I'd like to emphasize that "rolling" can mean different things to different people. If you consider simply being in an altered state to be rolling, then yes, MDMA is a pretty effective DA/NE releaser in addition to releasing 5-HT. The DA/NE systems are more resistant to downregulation (evidenced by the week-long binges of some amphetamine users), so you can go on for a while with MDMA if all you're looking to do is feel different.