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Psychosis/DMT/Pot/LSD

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Hey all. Last night I smoked some very strong pot (i don't smoke pot often), and felt like I had a psychotic break. This has happened numerous times on cannabis to me, but never this strong. I started to see my fiance flirting with other people even thought it wasn't happening. I would be sitting there staring off into space and I'd see my friend twitch his eye, and then move his head and think he was motioning to some secret. I'd think I was dead and just reliving my life. Random, completely crazy thoughts like this. Connecting things that shouldn't connect. Not being able to think clearly, thinking there was some big secret behind reality, such as everyone is part of it. The odd thing was though, is as soon as these happened, I'd realize it was insane and debunk it and just stop thinking about it. I'm 18 years old, a bit worried this could be developmental schizophrenia or something? Today I feel a bit off still, woke up every couple hours last night, and I'm very irritable and hostile to my fiance sometimes by accident. One thing though, is I have VERY bad anxiety. For a couple months, I thought I had lymphoma, lung cancer, this that, this that. Completely believed it. Could I be tricking myself, and while high my mind is a bit more creative? Though, it happens when I'm not thinking about it.

The first time I ever experienced this, was much worse than any pot experience, was on DMT. I smoked a big hit and things started to cue things in my head that didn't connect at all. Friends talking, my dog licking his butt, people gesturing, my fiance praying and giving me a massage, made me feel like my reality was being slipped from under me, controlled. That anything could happen, the possibilities were now endless, the laws I thought controlled reality no longer did. And even now, completely of sober mind, I still have a voice in my head (not a literal voice, just a thought :p) thinking this could be real and I'm in some test. Is this normal with DMT? Another time I smoked less than 15mg of DMT and had a similar experience, where I feel like all my friends, fiance, family are in on some big secret.
I've also had a similar experience on a fairly high dose 4-AcO-DMT, where my fiance had gone crazy (not able to talk w ell anymore, another schizo worry of mine haha). She told me she was pregnant (with the earth, i didn't know that though) and I thought all my friends knew, my dad, and it was the secret of life to have a child. This one was more of just a strong trip though.
If this is normal of DMT, could this just be PTSD and OCD (my doctor thinks I have ocd, due to me compulsively checking the size of my lymph nodes [they were swallon]) making me create insane thoughts even though I know they aren't real? Remember, I'm not thinking about any of this at all when this happens.


Anyway, the reason this bothers me at the moment, is I haven't tripped in like 6 months (besides very low dose 2c-c twice), and I feel like my ego is getting a bit big, as I said been a bit irritable and angry towards my fiance, feeling a bit too cool %). We used to have very special, amazing, romantic mescaline trips (Peruvian torch-- about 25 grams) that used to help us out a lot. Mescaline has never done anything bad to us, never had an anxious trip, etc. I've had edgy acid trips, but no bad ones. She's had a bad acid trip. My recent 2c-c trips have been great (besides a bit of anxiety). I've never had these crazy thoughts at all while tripping (not that I noticed), besides on DMT. However, I haven't tripped in a long time and I also don't think pot was always like this for me, I think I used to just get normal highs. I'd really like to take some low dose LSD (half a very potent hit), or about 25 grams of Peruvian torch because I think if this is just anxiety/PTSD I can get past it with these. I'm worried if this is DP/DR (depersonalization/derealization) from HPPD (not sure if I have this, I'm having a good time living 75-85% of the time), OR developmental schizophrenia these could exasperate it too much.

Sorry for jumping around so much, but please give me your words of wisdom :) What does PD think?
 
Stay clear of all drugs for a while..

Let your body and mind sort itself out..

You don't wanna be planning a trip straight after a mind fuck like that.
 
if you're talking about DMT, that was a good 6 months to a year ago. if your talking about the pot, its not too big of a deal to me so long as I stay myself.
 
its not so much that though, its more complicated. It has and hasn't. As soon as I realize whats going on (crazy thoughts, thinking too much, corrupt sense of self) I recognize it and it stops.
 
I had a room mate who used to get a way different type of high then the rest of us from the same nuggets, I think certain people are just affected differently
 
Seems you might have too much on your mind. For me when i am high on any substance its all about the setting and who im with. The mood in which i am in before in indulge.

When i start to get those feeling you talk about people having a big secret and your girlfriend flirting with other people( i have had similar experiences) its your deep down feelings manifesting them self in front of you. You may deep down feel insecure about your relationship with your fiance.

Once you feel completely centered within your self again i think it might be safe to indulge in an altered mind state. For now i would take a break from everything. Foucs on your health and getting your anxiety down.:)
 
Microphysical hyperconnective macropsychic technologies at work. Take it as a bit, of information... Inklings, twitches, and the thoughts and feelings accompanying them have alot to say about the flow of certain intentions... Wether or not they come to be actualized... well... depends how long you entertain the thought of that guy and your girl... But really... Yeah its an excercise. Let it go, accept they may be a connection stronger than yourself... or maybe not, but if something is in your head...

Nothing happens randomly like that is what im saying so take it for what it is and take the time, create the space to see if you can let it go before it gets to you. It can be hard at first. I dont know. Anyways... Im probably sounding way out there. But your mind is a powerful, supersensitive detector... especially of other minds. Be careful how you choose to use it and throw it around. Best to take in all the possibilities, and think for yourself and overall... What would be ideal ?
you sound like me last year haha. I grasp what your saying, but as of recently I've realized individuals have more power than I do in the entire world, well not more just equal, y'know? I know for a fact thinking back on it that it didn't happen, it was just insecurities manifesting themselves into my world. And some dark shit going on trying to tourture me. Or thats just my head
 
You had better tread very lightly, man. These sorts of things began to happen to me at age 16, and by the time I was 18, I was in the midst of full-blown depression/derealization and the beginnings of psychosis. The bad feelings were exacerbated greatly by cannabis.

Everything had a hidden meaning. Everything which happened, every little action people did was a metaphor for my benefit/detriment. It was a living hell, a darkness I've had to slowly pull myself out of. It's been a difficult climb back to reality. I'm 33 now; it's taken me this long to get my head right.

As much as I hate to say it, you must stop all drugs until you can get yourself leveled out. The one exception that I recommend for acute symptoms is diphenhydramine (benadryl). If your feelings are getting out of control, and you feel like acting out, take 50-100 mgs. No more. If you feel like you aren't getting any better, go see a doctor and get yourself some good meds. No SSRIs! I'm on lamotrigine and mirtazapine, and these are good medications.

When you are OK again, you may be able to start using in moderation. I can now smoke a little herb everyday without getting psychotic, which is a big thing for me. This is possible only because of the meds I am on. I still get depressed or anxious, but I take substances I know won't make my problems worse, and avoid situations that could hurt me. I do not trust cannabis to quell my anger, I trust diphenhydramine for that, and it hasn't let me down. I choose to ignore the ridiculous connections and arcane metaphors now. I choose clarity of mind above magical thinking, and it has made a big difference. But the biggest wake up call was when I went to jail for acting out, almost getting 7 years in prison. I decided right then and there that no matter how extreme my emotions became, I would not act out on them again.

I truly hope you get better!
 
I suggest you take a break from everything for a few months. If the symptoms reappear after a break I would suggest that you stop altogether. If you don`t you run the risk of the episodes lasting longer and you may start having these thoughts when not high. This would not be a good look for you trust me.

I reccommend you stop smoking cannabis though as I can guarantee this will make the symptoms worse.

On a positive i`m sure you will be fine =D , pm me if you want to talk.
 
No drugs what-so-ever for 30-60 days.

this means no coffee, alcohol, tobacco, cannabis, NOTHING- no drugs!

nothing but clean pure water, good food and exercise.

you'll feel great after 2 months of that, i promise.
 
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