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The Big & Dandy Trip Abortion Thread

enough valium will send you to sleep...

otherwise the most effeciant are neuroleptics (quetiapine, cyamemazine...etc)
 
enough valium will send you to sleep...

otherwise the most effeciant are neuroleptics (quetiapine, cyamemazine...etc)
 
ive been prescribed mirtazipine and taking it at a 45mg dose but havent needed it in about 6 months, so would this be the choice, or valium?
 
opiates have always worked better than benzos for me for this purpose. I mean benzos will take the edge off and if you eat enough you'll probably be able to sleep, although this should be done at the end of a trip cuz otherwise you might just end up blacking out while still tripping and doing things you might regret. I guess it works in the sense that you wont remember anything thus ending the trip as far as your conscious sober mind is concerned afterwards but i wouldn't recomend it. Seroquel totally works and knocks me right out but thats a waste.

Opiates are good for this kinda thing cuz you end up in a psychedelic nod and although you're still tripping its pretty much impossible to have a bad trip under that warm opiate blanket, and it still makes it possible to sleep, but doesnt force it.

idonno if perks would cut it tho unless you have zero tolerance.
 
^^^which opiates would you suggest? I've had oxys during a difficult trip and it dragged me out of the darkness, but it's not an easy thing to get. I'd imagine a cwe would be good but it just doesn't last long enough, especially if you're tripping.
 
adeline said:
Olanzapine, an atypical anti-psychotic/anti-manic should help stop a trip AND put you to sleep at about a 7.5mg dose.. takes about 45 mins to 1 hour to have you asleep.
Mirtazipine is an anti-depressant that knocks you out, very effective for sleep even during/after an acid trip.. would have you asleep within an hour.
Both can easily be picked up from a doc without suspicion.

Weed helps, I've always found alcohol doesn't though.
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For me, weed kicks the trip up, so I would never suggest weed to someone trying to end a trip. Alcohol and benzos always work for deadening and ending a trip for me.
 
^Yeah I second that on the cannabis. I've noticed when you're coming up on acid, shrooms, etc. that if you take a few hits of ganja it will start the visuals and mental aspects of a trip although i'm sure any seasoned tripper could tell you that. To your original question, the benzo's will work better as far as taking any trip-induced anxiety while promoting sleep. Whereas the opiates will kinda surround you in a "warm blanket comfort zone" thus promoting a positive mindset to get through the remainder of the trip. If I had both in my possession and I started having a bad trip I would probably indulge in a little bit of both just be careful not to overdo it. And with that combo for the sake of aborting a trip I would go with more benzo than opiate...i.e. 30-50mg diazepam with 10-30mg of oxycodone. That's all I got for ya. Happy trails. P.S. In the truest sense of the word a 5ht antagonist like seroquel (i believe would work) is the best option to "stop" a trip such as visual hallucinations and some mental aspects of a trip.
 
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Nothing kills a bad trip faster and more effectively than Xanax IMO. Valium takes too long to hit and is far to mellow unless you dose highly and percs are kind of inbetween.

I aborted an EXTREMELY high dose LSD trip (sucked the bottom of a breath drop bottle that was supposed to be expended and was not even close) with 1mg of Xanax - only took about 10 minutes before my absolute panic attack went into remission.

It is true that it won't necessarily "end" the trip but for me, benzos kill the visual intensity for the most part and definitely negate the negative body stimulation and allow you just to chill out.

Oh and I would HIGHLY recommend staying away from olanzapine, mirtazepine, diphenhydramine, and weed.

Olanzapine and mirtazepine have dangerous side effects on their own, diphenhydramine will enhance the trip and a lot of people (myself included) experience stimulation, not sedation from it, when on hallucinogens. Weed will blast you into another dimension...

Also, if you are asking this and you plan to trip, do yourself a favor and trip something other than LSD. You've already started to set yourself up for a "bad" trip just by seeking substances to end it.

Finally, be extremely careful - most LSD is not LSD these days. If you are lucky its LSD, if you are somewhat lucky, its LSA. If you don't have any luck at all, it will be a DOX chemical or 5-MeO-AMT. Another reason why I suggest benzos - they have a very high safety profile and if you end up with a DOX or 5-MeO, it will calm those trips down as well.
 
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^I wouldn't bet on it. I don't see any reason why it would completely stop a trip but it may do the same thing a percocet or some xanax would do.
 
i would not use tramadol with something like LSD, seizures! just like you wouldnt take it with anything like mdma.
 
Thorazine is the only way to end a bad trip.
But that is desperation stakes, because normally you should be able to ride it out. It's only six or seven hours. And if it's that bad, at least it will tell you not to take LSD ever again.
 
Wow looked like I got some REALLY BAD advice :p

Thanks for clearing that up, that could of put me in a very sticky situation! I knew not to mix it with MD due to seizures but had no idea that LSD would do that too :\
 
TearItDown said:
For me, weed kicks the trip up, so I would never suggest weed to someone trying to end a trip. Alcohol and benzos always work for deadening and ending a trip for me.
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Agreed. I smoke weed multiple times every day, and have quite a tolerance to it. For my first few experiences tripping (mushrooms and LSD) I would chain-smoke weed. Literally smoking between 5-7 grams per trip. Pot went hand in hand with tripping for me.

Then I learned to enjoy psychedelics withOUT using so much pot. I much better enjoy waiting to smoke until the peak now, and then smoking during the comedown. But like someone said above, pot can greatly enhance the visuals and mindset of a trip.

However, the strongest (without a doubt) trip I have ever had, was brought on strictly by marijuana. I was tripping medium/high dose acid with a friend and was about 6-7 hours into the trip. I thought I was basically sober, so we smoked a 1.5 gram joint. That fucked me up so badly I struggled to find my way home from my friends' house, which was only a couple blocks.

Moral of the story: pot increases psychs, not takes them down.

And to answer your question, I usually have a couple beers and a xanex to get to sleep after tripping (around 12 hours in). And I have found that for intense trips xanex and klonopin definitely help with the anxiety and slow down the trip. But I wouldn't recommend banking on that, as you can blackout pretty easy on those drugs and combined with LSD that's probably not in your best interest.
 
1000mg Niacin or Niacinamide to abort a trip

I guess people were assuming I was joking, but I have seen this work on others, as well as felt it myself.

Bluelight > Focus Forums > Psychedelic Drugs > Niacin as a Trip-Terminator
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-60662.html

MAPS: DIGEST: Re: Niacin and LSD
http://www.maps.org/old_forum/1999/msg00709.html

This is also really good advice:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1264605
One thing that works well is to tell someone that they can fix any problem they have by focusing on their breathing. If the bad tripper believes you that his/her problem is with breathing then you show them how to fix it and they follow it, they will be erasing the problem in their mind. Basically diagnosing them with a fake easy-to-fix problem (you need a glass of water, you need to focus on breathing, you are walking around too much) and then fixing it will ease the minds of many paranoid trippers. When that doesn't work just reassure that no one dies from shrooms and they are perfectly fine. If you listen to their problems and tell them as a sober person that they are imagining them, that may help as well. Bad trips suck but once you realize that they are all the same and they are all in your mind, you can better avoid them or deal with them.
 
Also, there's a form of meditation that is known to work.... I spontaneously figured this out on my own once when I felt "uh-oh... feeling scared... bad trip approaching", then read an an entire web page about it somewhere that I have now lost.

A type of meditation where you "step back a level" from the experiences that are scary or depressing... and try to BE the "eye" that is one level up, watching the normal "you" going through the bad thoughts. If the bad trip invades this level, step up again, and be the EYE who is observing THAT viewer.

Its hard to explain but somehow its very easy to do when in a bad trip, almost intuitive.

Like playing "Watch the Watcher".... I get a sensation of mentally BACKING UP, and the fear in me subsides and I start to have this really detached cosmic point of view, as I become the cosmic mind's eye watching the "silly me" below get frightened by the scary monsters and hallucinations

You tell yourself that EVERYTHING IS ORIGINATING INSIDE YOUR OWN MIND... your OWN consciousness is the one who is creating ALL thoughts and feelings, including the scary, threatening ones you feel during a bad trip... then you back up a level and observe this very process down below in the "normal" you, generating its own chimeras to scare itself with.

This kind of mediation has a name but I forget what it is. In meditation it is used stop the thought-generating machine in our heads... you try not to think, but if/when you do you visualize stepping back and observing the level of mind that is concocting the "thought.".. and just by this simple shift of inner perspective, you are no longer "having" the thought, but rather now you are "observing it from afar," and it does not really belong to you or control you and you can let it evaporate.
 
from the choices in the original post Valium would work better top end a trip but opiates (the percocets) will make an unpleasant trip alot more comfortable.

Anti Psychotics (5ht2 antagonist) will kill a trip.
 
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