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So if MAOIs are useful with organic DMT.... what about 4aco or 5meo?

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Are they useful with 5-meo or even 4-aco ?

Any potential there?

Or just plain dangerous....
 
I used an MAOI (caapi) with 20mg 4-Aco-DMT last week. It was the most mellow experience I've ever had with 4-Aco-DMT. It was much deeper than usual and felt much more mushroom-like than it normally does. It's the way to do it imo, by far my favorite experience with that compound.
 
how do you obtain maoi's? just get em from a friend? all the people i know have no clue wat the difference between an ssri or maoi
 
Syrian rue, an MAOI (MAO-A specific) is available just about anywhere, Google it for suppliers in your area.

MAO-B is harder, and only relevant with phenethylamine (itself) or MDMA (to attenuate neurotoxicity). Kava kava is a MAO-B inhibitor, but it's also a powerful sedative, so it will block the effects of whatever it potentiates. Rhodiola rosea is a MAO-B inhibitor, but it also has MAO-A activity, making it potentially very dangerous in combination with stimulants.
 
I've use moclobemide as an MAOI with mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT with excellent effects. I've only tried the combo with 4acodmt once but I've done the mushroom combination more times than I can think to remember. Always leads to a deeper trip for me.

Edit: and I've also use syrian rue in combo with musrooms to wonderful effects.
 
So maybe worth trying along side aco

Next question, how much weight in Syrian Rue seeds, and how best to prepare them? I dont want to chew raw seeds at a festival ;)
 
adrian89987 said:
I would suggest looking around for moclobemide, far superior to syrian rue imo.
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Or just get THH (tetrahydroharmine)... Its easier to find than moclo and its much more pleasant than either harmaline or harmine...

And OP as a general rule, NEVER EVER mix a 5-Methoxy tryptamine with an MAOI due to the fact that 5-MeOs are already usually quite stimulating - 5-MeO-DMT with MAOIs has led to many trip disasters.

4-AcO/4-HO tryptamines, however, are wonderful with MAOIs. I have a buddy that made a pharmahuasca combination (THH, 4-AcO-DMT, DMT) that said it was far better than ayahuasca and he also enjoyed THH with 4-AcO-DMT on its own as well as 4-HO-MiPT.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Or just get THH (tetrahydroharmine)... Its easier to find than moclo and its much more pleasant than either harmaline or harmine...

And OP as a general rule, NEVER EVER mix a 5-Methoxy tryptamine with an MAOI due to the fact that 5-MeOs are already usually quite stimulating - 5-MeO-DMT with MAOIs has led to many trip disasters.

4-AcO/4-HO tryptamines, however, are wonderful with MAOIs. I have a buddy that made a pharmahuasca combination (THH, 4-AcO-DMT, DMT) that said it was far better than ayahuasca and he also enjoyed THH with 4-AcO-DMT on its own as well as 4-HO-MiPT.
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Thanks, this was helpful as were some of the others above inc the link to the tea.

Well I only have Syrian and 4aco at my disposal in time for the coming weekend, (I think the postman has eaten my mimosa 8o) so I shall see how those go. Hopefully I can make the tea in advance and keep it in a bottle for a day or two without it going off.
 
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