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Nitrous + cannabis :: exp w/ both :: In the Now, and not, somehow

Raw Evil

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Location
Akasha
Setting: In S's car, off-road in a secluded spot
Set: Tired due to the lateness of night, ready for some meaningless hedonism

Well, what's there to say? Mostly, it was a typical nitrous binge: we had two "bricks" of ten boxes of bulbs between the myself, S and B (200 bulbs total). We smoked a decent amount of pot too, with the bulb machine and the pipe passing in a circle. After a while we were all gone, mindlessly/automatically taking bulbs and passing the machine. We were listening to a mix CD that had been put together some days before, with some of my favourite bands on it. The night progressed, and all was uneventful until one bulb tore reality a new one.

In typical nitrous style, "I" had dissolved away, but instead of being completely unaware of my surroundings, I was right there with the music. I had no thoughts, I was unaware of existence; I felt one thing alone, and that was the song that was playing. The music was all, and all was the music. The vocals stood out as the closest thing to "I" or "me" that was fathomable. I was the vocals, and the music was reality. As I snapped back further, the glow from the blue neons inside S's car integrated into the experience, and now all-that-is was both the music and the experience of blueness. Suddenly my mind raced; a million thoughts happened at once, and an immense sense of déjà vu set the stage for a realisation.

I felt that I'd seen this coming quite some time ago. Not in any direct sense, but there was that strong recollection of a vague "memory" of sorts, representing something not unlike this experience. The explicit similarity was that both of these experiences were an abrupt disconnect from reality. It was kind of like having a conversation with music playing in the background, and someone suddenly turning the volume all the way up: the conversation is completely interrupted, and the only thing anybody is capable of perceiving is the loudness of the sound. This déjà vu, while imprecise, seemed amazingly accurate. Reality's volume knob had been pushed straight to eleven instantaneously, and as a result, not only was logical thought completely impossible, so was everything. The only thing I knew was awareness of... something. I didn't (and likely couldn't, had I tried to) relate anything to "self". There was only what-is, and what was was blue neon light and Someone Here is Missing by The Pineapple Thief. The Now did not include "me".

As I snapped back further, and the familiarity of sober reality washed over me once more, I became aware of S and B in the car. B had the bulb machine, so I addressed S.

"What... the fuck just happened?"

S replied in the deep voice of someone exhaling nitrous, "What?"

"I... I don't know anything about what happened," I croaked. Wait. I knew what happened; I'd just been through it. "I know exactly what happened."

I realised I'd just experienced something that would be incredibly difficult to communicate. It certainly proved to be an experience to chew on. I am still unsure of any accurate way to put what I thought, felt and saw into words, but I hope this vague description of an experience so far removed from language serves to inform some of those brave souls who choose to explore every level of their consciousness.
 
I felt that I'd seen this coming quite some time ago. Not in any direct sense, but there was that strong recollection of a vague "memory" of sorts, representing something not unlike this experience.

I realised I'd just experienced something that would be incredibly difficult to communicate.

I know what you mean... I've achieved this nitrous state twice, with several other 'close but not quite' experiences. It's like you've crossed a threshold to a place where you've been before, a long time ago or in another lifetime, but you have forgotten it. It feels somewhat familiar, even comfortable and natural, and you feel that it's happened over & over in the unimaginable depths of time. Almost as if you slipped out of the 'current' timestream into something a bit off to the side.

Like you said, it's incredibly hard to express to another person. And it's very hard to duplicate... I've gone through many bricks trying to attain that state but haven't quite made it again. Yet.
 
I know what you mean... I've achieved this nitrous state twice, with several other 'close but not quite' experiences. It's like you've crossed a threshold to a place where you've been before, a long time ago or in another lifetime, but you have forgotten it. It feels somewhat familiar, even comfortable and natural, and you feel that it's happened over & over in the unimaginable depths of time. Almost as if you slipped out of the 'current' timestream into something a bit off to the side.

Like you said, it's incredibly hard to express to another person. And it's very hard to duplicate... I've gone through many bricks trying to attain that state but haven't quite made it again. Yet.

I too have had the breakthrough déjà vu trip on nitrous a couple of times. It's strange becuase it only seems to happen randomly, increasing dosage does not seem to increase the chance of this happening.

For me, it's like I'm hit with this realization that I have always existed in this very moment, and the rest of my life is merely an illusion that I fool myself into believing, like it was all just a fake memory. I realize that my existence is an endless cycle of living this illusionary life up to this epiphany, this everlasting moment. But I know that I will once again fall into believing that my fake memories are what are real, thus starting the cycle over again. While this is happening, all of my sensory input, what I'm seeing and hearing, seems so unbelievably familiar to me that it's obvious I have been living this very moment over and over, thus confirming the truth of this realization.

This trip, which I have had about three times I think, is easily amongst my most intense trips. It's unique because it seems so real while it's happening, and I can remember that realness clearly after I come down. With other substances on reality shattering trips, I find it hard to recall, or make sense of in my ordinary state of mind, the thoughts and feelings that seemed so significant during the trip.

I have had fleeting moments of déjà vu on DXM a couple of times, but nowhere near as intense. Interesting that both nitrous and DXM are NMDA antagonists, I wonder if other drugs of this class cause this effect as well.
 
I too have had the breakthrough déjà vu trip on nitrous a couple of times. It's strange becuase it only seems to happen randomly, increasing dosage does not seem to increase the chance of this happening.


I have had fleeting moments of déjà vu on DXM a couple of times, but nowhere near as intense. Interesting that both nitrous and DXM are NMDA antagonists, I wonder if other drugs of this class cause this effect as well.

this happened to me on a 4th plateua (5oz delysm) + 20 CCC's DXM + 8 whip cream can trip. the way the guy you quoted reminded me alot of what happened to me. thought i saw god or somethin haha.
 
I know what you mean... I've achieved this nitrous state twice, with several other 'close but not quite' experiences. It's like you've crossed a threshold to a place where you've been before, a long time ago or in another lifetime, but you have forgotten it. It feels somewhat familiar, even comfortable and natural, and you feel that it's happened over & over in the unimaginable depths of time. Almost as if you slipped out of the 'current' timestream into something a bit off to the side.

Like you said, it's incredibly hard to express to another person. And it's very hard to duplicate... I've gone through many bricks trying to attain that state but haven't quite made it again. Yet.

What's weird is that I remember the specific "source memories" of this déjà vu. I've seen motifs during other nitrous sessions (some on LSD as well) that suggest this experience: sometimes flashes of intense emotion, sound or occasionally imagery; sometimes longer experiences of imagery of a flat horizontal line which spikes upward briefly then resumes its previous course.

I was very stoned at the time as well, so perhaps that has something to do with bringing about the experience. If I do try to repeat this experience in the future, I'll definitely get myself high first.
 
this happened to me on a 4th plateua (5oz delysm) + 20 CCC's DXM + 8 whip cream can trip. the way the guy you quoted reminded me alot of what happened to me. thought i saw god or somethin haha.


Two pieces of advice for ya, sir!

1. DXM extractions! They are easy to do on both of the DXM sources you had, makes for less nausea, and you are saving yourself the possible optic and nerve damage from mixing the CPM in the CCC's you took with all of that.

2. Whippets! Balloons discharged from canisters are a much cheaper source of nitrous along with being way more intense than cans.
 
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