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Thanks for all the replys again guys.

Personally, the benevolet nature of mescaline seems to have some appeal, and this summer seems the perfect time for it.

I dont like the sound of this potentially dark side of mushrooms.
 
even though i am guilty of calling shrooms "dark" at times. i think thats the wrong word to describe it.

Some points of tHe experience may be difficult. But that is easily cured by adjusting your dosage or trying to understand where and why that negativity came about in the first place.

Psychedelic means mind manifesting, its all coming from within you and not the actual substance, the "dark side" is something that comes out of the tripper, not the substance.

And if you are able to sit down and realize where and why the darkness came about, and integrate that lesson into your life, you may be better off in the end.

Mescaline is great psychedelic IMO, but doesnt have the spiritual depth (ego loss, etc) that mushrooms offer.

I wouldnt let comments on here stating that its dark disuade you from trying them. Go the the shroomery and im sure alot of people there wont think that mushrooms are dark.

sorry for the ramble, amphetamines do that to me.
 
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Beginners Psychedelic

I have experience with MDMA, Cannabis, Coke
I am interested in trying a psychedelic and was wondering what would be good to start with, dip toe in the water so to speak
Would it be good to do something thats in between say empathogen and psychedelic ? I was thinking about 2-cb or aMT , before trying acid or psilocybin
What would you consider to be a good place to start ?
 
Difficult question and impossible to give a definitive answer.

Although you've tried MDMA, it's a big step up to 'true' psychedelics and it's not one you'll necessarily enjoy making, especially if you take a high dose to begin with.

You mention 2-CB and aMT in preference to acid or shrooms. I see your logic, but aMT can have a pretty evil bodyload for some, coupled with a very long duration, although its legal status in the UK (and I presume this is also the case Ireland) means at least you're sure of what you're getting.

As it's nearly shroom season in our part of the world, I'd say experiment with small doses of Liberty Caps to begin with. It won't send you over the edge but the psychedelia's definitely there; I know several people who won't touch other psychedelics but love low doses of mushies. Either that or low-dose LSD, but obviously you're putting yourself in the hands of dealers there, so you might not be sure of the dosage you're taking.
 
Ill just go with a true and clean psychedelic, but with a low dose.
Shrooms, 4oh/aco DMT/MET, LSD (this one is hard to dose, may be not a first choice).
I found AMT, 2CX and 5 sub trypt can be a little inconfortable, just begin with clean stuff.
 
As SamhainGrim said it is a big step to true psychedelics from MDMA or any other drug. It is a completely different form of drugs, its like an apple and a pen, two completely different things, IMO at least.

The first proper psych I did was acid and I was fine but thats just coz its the first psych that crossed my path. One of the 2C's Excluding 2C-E is what I would suggest. 2C-I or 2C-B.

A low dose of acid should be ok though unless you are worried. I suppose its better to be safe than sorry though and Ive never had a 2C trip stronger than an acid trip except for 2C-T-7, that shit is nuts and probably the hardest ive ever tripped, even harder than my few DMT trips.

Good luck.
 
Yeah good luck, whatever you do make sure you take the time to make sure your in a good place both physically and mentally...........because and correct me if you guys think Im wrong, the way you see life will never be the same AGAIN!!! (thankfully) !!!
 
I find a small dose of 5-MeO-MIPT ,4-6mg, to be the softest and at the same time still rewarding psychedelic experience.Could be a proper bridge to the psychedelics :)Id also suggest a small lsd dose as a first,but considering the randomness of lsd doses on the street and the chance u might not even get lsd but some DOx id suggest you should get your hands on some RCs there
 
4-aco-dmt seems like it would be a great first psychedelic. It's not exactly the same as mushrooms, but it's quite similar and most people find that it is relatively short and very easy on the body. Personally, I get a little anxious and my stomach knots up a bit on the come up, but once it hits, any trace of bodyload melts away and is replaced by rolling waves of euphoria. It also tends to produce some nice and colorful open-eye visual distortions without getting too crazy or overwhelming, and the closed-eye visuals are fantastic. Assuming it's not a lot harder to acquire, I would go with 4-aco over mushrooms for a first time trip. Mushrooms are wonderful as well but in my experience, they have more of a potential for difficult experiences as well as more of a risk of nausea/bodyload.
 
4-aco-dmt at just 12mg would be perfect fun for a beginner.

As would 15mg of 2ci
 
I began at age 21 with mushrooms, then over the next few years progressed to LSD and Mescaline. I am happy with the process. I found, and still find psilocybin to be challenging psychologically. This is good because more easy going psychs like LSD and mescaline evoke no fear reaction in me no matter the dose.
 
I suggest a half-eight of mushrooms. Many have said, and I agree that mushrooms are one of the more psychologically challenging psyches, BUT if we're talking about the most common commercial P. Cubes (gold caps), then the dose-response is fairly consistent. You almost can't go wrong with a half-eight, regardless of the batch.

On the other hand, LSD is hard to dose properly because of inconsistent potency, and research chems are hard to dose because a few milligrams over-dosed can be way more than you want to feel.

I also highly recommend keeping a benzo or antipsychotic on hand. This way, if it goes wrong, you can abort the trip by popping a pill.
 
arthunter888 said:
I suggest a half-eight of mushrooms. Many have said, and I agree that mushrooms are one of the more psychologically challenging psyches, BUT if we're talking about the most common commercial P. Cubes (gold caps), then the dose-response is fairly consistent. You almost can't go wrong with a half-eight, regardless of the batch.

On the other hand, LSD is hard to dose properly because of inconsistent potency, and research chems are hard to dose because a few milligrams over-dosed can be way more than you want to feel.

I also highly recommend keeping a benzo or antipsychotic on hand. This way, if it goes wrong, you can abort the trip by popping a pill.
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Cheers. Are psychedelics very dose sensitive, so if I take a low dose the trip would be mild ?
Also any antipsychotics you would recommend ?
 
My second ever drug experience was with salvia and it's considered an extremely powerful psychedelic. I don't however recommend this.

Before trying the likes of MDMA/Shrooms/Etc I did try acid and had a fantastic time, it was a low dose around 60-70ug although this was enough to produce nice visuals that were controllable, a slight mental state that LSD produces but also enough to hold onto myself and keep myself to ground. I think LSD is an excellent first time psychedelic experience, however only if you feel ready and I recommend researching somewhat at first as it is quite a strong experience and some form of knowledge wouldn't go amiss.

Hope this helps and you have your first psychedelic experience soon! Best advise is to only have your first experience when you feel ready. Shrooms or LSD would be my recommendation.
 
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