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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion: maybe it's mdea...

MDMAhead said:
I'm not sure I buy any of this 'poorly-synthed MDMA' bullshit. I think it's more likely to be a small amount of MDMA (to fool the testing-kits) combined with a large amount of another drug - probably mephedrone or a piperazine.
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I think it would be obvious due to the smell if stuff has lots of mephedrone in it, piperzane is definately more likely imo (and much worse)
 
SamhainGrim said:
Exactly what I've thought whenever I've come across the 'tester-fooling' theories; I mean, if Reckitt Benckiser themselves can't even blend codeine and ibuprofen in a pill without problems (see Nurofen Plus), what chance does a more clandestine lab have? You'd expect massive variation from pill to pill at the very least.

Still, Occam's razor doesn't apply here it seems. So the lizard men and the Rockefellers continue to mix up the trojan horse pills, fooling the testers and scamming the kids.

Makes a good read though, must admit. =D
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Dude, if you are going to dismiss what I say, at least afford me the courtesy of reading what I have written first.

1) I was not talking about pills. I was talking about the crystal that Cornishman said he thought was 'poorly-synthed MDMA'.

2) I don't know whether you have ever looked at EcstasyData.org, or looked at the Dutch section of Pillreports (I'm guessing you haven't), but there have been many piperazine pills that have contained a small amount of MDXX to fool the testing kits, and I see no reason why crystal should be any different.
 
d1989 said:
I think it would be obvious due to the smell if stuff has lots of mephedrone in it, piperzane is definately more likely imo (and much worse)
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I agree. The gurning and the headache certainly sound like pipes to me.
 
The Quad said:
Also once you have come up with this figure do you think the short term gain(if any) would make good business sense once the makers realised some people didn't quite like it and they could get better stuff elsewhere?

Have you thought this through?
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By those right pips should have died out a long time ago.
 
i had some brown mdma crystal recently that didnt get me loved up atall and the buzz was just really heavy and not that enjoyable but it seriously fucked my jaw up i was a gurning wreck. i coudnt do anything to stop my jaw vibrating and my jaw really fucking hurt the next day.

theres definatly shit crystal about atm that people are calling the real deal
 
matt<3ketamine said:
does mdmahead tho? he has been against lots of crystal and pills that im sure would be the real deal :\ also 'gurning' indicates pipz? thought it was a sure sign of good mdma/pills hence the street name 'gurners'?
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Lol, exactly.

TBH I barely care for the drug in any way shape or form nowadays.
It was there, it was MDMA, so I took it.

*shrugs*
 
Guess the substance!

Right folks, more fake mdma on the go.

This stuff was white and kind of translucent , looks like regular table salt and I tested it with the Marquis it really fizzed and produced a little smoke!

I have not taken the substance, but have been informed by some peope that it got them really fucked.

Sorry this is all a little vague, but my initial thoughts was 5-iai?

Any other suggestions?
 
If you have enough spare cash, you can send a sample of this 'MDMA crystal' to EcstasyData.org, and they will lab-test it for you. It costs 120 US dollars (about 75 pounds).

If you send me a private message, I can give you detailed instructions on how to do this.



:)
 
matt<3ketamine said:
does mdmahead tho? he has been against lots of crystal and pills that im sure would be the real deal :\ also 'gurning' indicates pipz? thought it was a sure sign of good mdma/pills hence the street name 'gurners'?
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The gurners are the first people you ask for pills in a club if you've got none :)
 
The Quad said:
Please explain.
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You said that it wouldn't make good business sense for dealers to sell piperazine pills. And 2low pointed out to you that people are clearly still buying piperazine pills, and therefore dealers are clearly still making money from them.

Pretty simple really.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Exactly what I've thought whenever I've come across the 'tester-fooling' theories; I mean, if Reckitt Benckiser themselves can't even blend codeine and ibuprofen in a pill without problems (see Nurofen Plus), what chance does a more clandestine lab have? You'd expect massive variation from pill to pill at the very least.

Still, Occam's razor doesn't apply here it seems. So the lizard men and the Rockefellers continue to mix up the trojan horse pills, fooling the testers and scamming the kids.

Makes a good read though, must admit. =D
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What's up with Nurofen Plus???
 
MDMAhead said:
You said that it wouldn't make good business sense for dealers to sell piperazine pills. And 2low pointed out to you that people are clearly still buying piperazine pills, and therefore dealers are clearly still making money from them.

Pretty simple really.
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I suggest you and your mate re read my post (THE COMPLETE POST) Then have a look at what you have just written.

You continue to make yourself look stupid.

Simple really.
 
there should be a The Quad vs MDMAhead thread i think! lol it started with the green stars and now, all mdma related things.
anyway, back to pill discussion, anyone still gettin the pink FB's in belfast? would like to know if they are still around :)
 
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