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Psychotia viridis + Syrian rue - New Experience - underwhelmed

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After the come up jitters. I had few hours of 'trace' or semi awake dreaming and some thought patterns...very mild visuals. It was an okay to kill a few hours, and no side effects. (nope no vomiting or bowel problems...hell I'm still high and eating on the stuff...opi's and psychostims have worse neasua)

Its been and still euphoria, but just mildy. I Would say 80mg of MDMA is a stronger trip/psychedelic. 30mg of morphine is more of an emetic and 15mg of d-amphetamine more of a laxative.

but it was fun, so no complaints, I'm just kinda 'lolwut' THIS is some mystical brew?!?! I've tried a few times, always the same. smoked DMT...thats different.
 
After the come up jitters. I had few hours of 'trace' or semi awake dreaming and some thought patterns...very mild visuals. It was an okay to kill a few hours, and no side effects. (nope no vomiting or bowel problems...hell I'm still high and eating on the stuff...opi's and psychostims have worse neasua)

Its been and still euphoria, but just mildy. I Would say 80mg of MDMA is a stronger trip/psychedelic. 30mg of morphine is more of an emetic and 15mg of d-amphetamine more of a laxative.

but it was fun, so no complaints, I'm just kinda 'lolwut' THIS is some mystical brew?!?! I've tried a few times, always the same. smoked DMT...thats different.

How much did you take of each?
What was the preparation followed for each plant?
What was the time frame for consumption?

3 g of crushed rue seeds boiled in a little acidic water followed 30 minutes later by 60g of p. viridis tea that have been boiled at least 30 minutes also in acidic water, would definitely be *much* more than what you describe, unless the leaf was very weak (it happens!)
 
Then you failed each time. Stop making the brew if you the actual freebase. You can eat the syrian rue and then the DMT in a capsule.

Not actually a good advice. The freebase is actually less effective and more prone to nausea than the salt form (acetate or tanninate) Also using raw rue seed you will ingest a lot of relatively toxic plant matter and if one does not have a strong stomach, a 6 feet long puke is the likely outcome, even if the rue is taken ground in capsules.

Pharmahuasca is OK, but it should be done with the harmalas duly separated (with possibly a manske extraction). It is not difficult but it's a boring and time consuming process. Also the DMT should be consumed in salt form for best results

Yet, for the record, pharmahuasca produces a different experience than a more natural brew, even using syrian rue.
 
Try mimosa hostilis instead;)

done it

4 grams of syrian rue, a. big bag of psychotia..maybe 10-15g's water acidified with tannic acid.

also ate 2grams of rue (strong stomach I've bitten a snakes head off for the lulz)

a side note: doing amphetamines with syrian rue, while really stupid. is fucking awesome. But dont do it, I was hypertensive for like 24 hours and couldnt sleep for 2 days.
 
Looks like you just broke threshold.

Not descriptive enough for a trip report, so I am closing it.
 
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