[6-APB Subthread] Adverse Effects / Side-effects

[Scoobysnacks]

Welcome to the 6-APB Adverse Effects / Side-effects Subthread
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Useful links:

• Latest Big & Dandy Thread
• Wikipedia Page
• Erowid Vault

This thread is here for you to discuss the side-effects of 6-APB. If you're experiencing any side-effects during or after 6-APB usage, please share them here.

A run-down of some of the most commonly experienced side-effects, taken from the B&D thread:

Possible side-effects:

• Generally not terribly stimulant-like side effect but still there! (high heartrate / bloodpressure), tightness in chest
• Sweating
• Nystagmus
• Dry mouth, seems to absord water from the body like chemically comparable substances
• Pronounced bruxism, jaw tension, grinding
• Warm extremeties / mild parasthesia or tingling, another user gets cold extremeties rather than warm, trouble regulating body temperature like MDMA produces? But due to stimulant effects more chance of overheating than hypothermia.
• Some jitteriness
• Wobbly walking / rubbery legs.
• Difficulty urinating
• Possible nausea / emesis (vomiting)
• Some experience headaches (possibly due to dehydration and/or overheating and/or harmful metabolites or even 6-APB toxicity)
• Insomnia, long duration even longer problems sleeping
• Crashing and washed out feeling hard to predict but definitely to be expected in higher or more frequent assays.
• Some experience diarrhoea the day or two after use.

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Original post:


Hey guys, just got a pm off a member having a hard time of things since he took 1 pellet and two nights later took 2,he is feeling horrific and he not a guy who comes across as a flapper and is genuinly concerned for his health, he didnt want to post but i will ask him too as i feel it is important he does first hand.Alongside other reports from members and my own comedown it is a worying aspect.

I only took 1 pellet and had a horrendous ulcer on the middle of my tongue which lasted close to 5 days, never had anything this severe other on the two occasions i took meph and i dosed fairly high , with this shit i took no more than 100mg.

feelings of lethargy and the inability to get truly stoned for lasted for around 6 days, im a a big pothead and have never expereienced this other than amphatemine and not close to the length the weed was stunted off 6-apb.

just an all round shitty feeling which lasts way to long to be safe imo

please post ya 6-apb after effects, cheers guys

 

[Delsyd]

i have no experience with it.
Ive read several side effects in the Big and Dandy thread, so im sure you'll get some posts.

I would recomend that this be treated like MDMA rather than Meph.

You shouldnt use this several times a week.
I dont know much about chemistry but from what ive gathered in other threads it is supposed to me very MDA like in effects and chemically.
Drugs like MDA should not be abused because it can cause brain damage.
I think this would be similar.

To those who enjoy it, i would just save it for a once a month or every few weeks experience.
Try to keep it special, because you know how it can go with MDA/MDMA, losing magic and all.

There will be side effects, just as there with most drugs.

Be safe

 

[Scoobysnacks]

There will be side effects, just as there with most drugs.

Be safe

yeh granted Delsyd it would be good to know to what degree, it may down to age and an inability to metabolise the chem similar to how we process alcohol differently resulting in worsoning hangovers as we get older, i have a feeling this may play a factor as i have read reports of no significant comedown at all. Im guessing most major comedowns will be from the blue rinse brigade and the young uns we will find it far easier to shake it off.

 

[deano88]

how you doing scooby m8 long time no speak sorry to hear you had a bad time of just one, and that other guy too must be well pissed off. oh well we all take risks eh?

i never really got any bad side effects or come down at all but i did take a 50mg dose of amt 4 hours after taking the pill and this felt so much better i was also having little lines of mdai through the night, i had a fucking ace night psycho to fuck but i was dissapointed with the 6-apb its bollocks (for the money anyway) and is never woth a tenner i'd only buy it if it went down to £3 a pill no more.

i'd be lying if i said it had no effect cuz at one point i was proper mashed like being on a E exept i felt really horny on this stuff but the good bit didn't last long maybe about 2 hours, after that it was just a little speedy head buzz and kind of got boring so thats why i ended up necking the AMT and the two drugs together definately makes a good night but 6-apb on its own is wank mainly cuz its a tenner and it don't last long enough.

 

[benson7]

As posted in the other thread I suffered from a rapidly increased heart rate 2 days after taking 3 pellets. Came completely out of the blue.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

how you doing scooby m8 long time no speak sorry to hear you had a bad time of just one, and that other guy too must be well pissed off. oh well we all take risks eh?

i never really got any bad side effects or come down at all but i did take a 50mg dose of amt 4 hours after taking the pill and this felt so much better i was also having little lines of mdai through the night, i had a fucking ace night psycho to fuck but i was dissapointed with the 6-apb its bollocks (for the money anyway) and is never woth a tenner i'd only buy it if it went down to £3 a pill no more.

i'd be lying if i said it had no effect cuz at one point i was proper mashed like being on a E exept i felt really horny on this stuff but the good bit didn't last long maybe about 2 hours, after that it was just a little speedy head buzz and kind of got boring so thats why i ended up necking the AMT and the two drugs together definately makes a good night but 6-apb on its own is wank mainly cuz its a tenner and it don't last long enough.

Deano , yeh been ages mate , bet ya been flying somewhere while i been listening to wife moaning about her fat ankles and sanding doors haha

yeh id be lying if i said i didnt enjoy first two hours cos they were great , just after that wasnt much going on,diffferent sceario probably with something else

gutted Deano i flushed my amt lmao..shit we do on chems

As posted in the other thread I suffered from a rapidly increased heart rate 2 days after taking 3 pellets. Came completely out of the blue.

fook that doesnt so good, how are ya now mate?, can anyone give any reasons why this may happen?

Benson how old are ya?

 

[k.kat]

another thing i noticed on the comedown that i forgot to put in my TR was extremely dry eyes

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Worst side effect for me was negative tripping after 3 pills over 2 nights (with maybe only 4 hours sleep in between). I thought my arm was swelling up. Unlike meph paranoia, this lasted for a long time.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

another thing i noticed on the comedown that i forgot to put in my TR was extremely dry eyes

hey K.K could that be due to dehydration?, i commented it sucked the water out of you and i drank bucketloads without actually moving much or sweating, strange

the wiki page has been changed , originally it mentioned concerns regarding 6-apb including it being a duratic amongst other things, it now says on the 6-apb page no toxiticy known as not been tested!!

 

[zamzams]

I've only ever tried the 2nd batch which hasn't been sold yet (apparently) The only side effects it gave me was a slight headache after coming down followed by a warm fuzzy drowsiness similar but less than the comedown off of mdma (around the 8 hour mark). Was still off base the next day on waking (after a decent 7 hour kip) but felt great the next day not one complaint.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

I've only ever tried the 2nd batch which hasn't been sold yet (apparently) The only side effects it gave me was a slight headache after coming down followed by a warm fuzzy drowsiness similar but less than the comedown off of mdma (around the 8 hour mark). Was still off base the next day on waking (after a decent 7 hour kip) but felt great the next day not one complaint.

are ya planning to take a pellet mate? and my comedown was not mdma like sadly, never felt rough after e or mdma only whizz made me crash

 

[zamzams]

are ya planning to take a pellet mate? and my comedown was not mdma like sadly, never felt rough after e or mdma only whizz made me crash

the pellets defo don't sound like what i took. all i know is that it'd been made differently to this initial stuff when i sampled the same synth that mullered and mugabe had. i think mullered and mugabe had both synths though so they will be better at comparing the two, the 1st sounds more like mda though in effects whereas the synth i had was more like mdma.

i might take them with a mate this weekend but as i've only got two will only be having one each, still not sure though...

EDIT: scoobs have you been stressed at all ulcers are caused by stress or by biting your tongue at some point. i've literally torn chunks out my cheeks by taking mdma before and not knowing i was eating my own head.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

the pellets defo don't sound like what i took. all i know is that it'd been made differently to this initial stuff when i sampled the same synth that mullered and mugabe had. i think mullered and mugabe had both synths though so they will be better at comparing the two, the 1st sounds more like mda though in effects whereas the synth i had was more like mdma.

i might take them with a mate this weekend but as i've only got two will only be having one each, still not sure though...

EDIT: scoobs have you been stressed at all ulcers are caused by stress or by biting your tongue at some point. i've literally torn chunks out my cheeks by taking mdma before and not knowing i was eating my own head.

only as stessed as normal mate, this was a beauty more of a legion haha, i posted this is what meph does to my tongue but it took big doses, around 600mg on the two occasions i took meph and tongue was bad, when i was caning e living on my wits , i was wrecked physically and never got nothing like this so i have to say it toxic just like meph. and i made a point of trying not to suck and was sipping water throughout, i dread to think what it wd of been like if i didnt

ps..also i never experienced a crash on old e, if anything i enjoyed my comedowns, my first combo at raves was whizz/acid and suffered immensly till e came along

 

[zamzams]

only as stessed as normal mate, this was a beauty more of a legion haha, i posted this is what meph does to my tongue but it took big doses, around 600mg on the two occasions i took meph and tongue was bad, when i was caning e living on my wits , i was wrecked physically and never got nothing like this so i have to say it toxic just like meph. and i made a point of trying not to suck and was sipping water throughout, i dread to think what it wd of been like if i didnt

i don't get ulcers much these days. I used to get loads when i was younger but only if i'd been stressed or ill. I used to get them from sodium lauryl sulfate that was in certain brands of toothpaste, a friend who worked for a big brand company used to use me as a guinea pig for his toothpastes he made at work that didn't contain SLS. maybe part of the synthesis results in traces of similar surfactants. Would explain getting the shits LOL. - oh yeah forgot to mention i got the shits big time

 

[Scoobysnacks]

i don't get ulcers much these days. I used to get loads when i was younger but only if i'd been stressed or ill. I used to get them from sodium lauryl sulfate that was in certain brands of toothpaste, a friend who worked for a big brand company used to use me as a guinea pig for his toothpastes he made at work that didn't contain SLS. maybe these pellets contain traces of similar surfactants. Would explain getting the shits LOL. - oh yeah forgot to mention i got the shits big time

see i got 30 mins of feeling a little sick didnt shit but in fairness i go very early am, only thing is i lost my appatite, e makes me puke every time and when i dont its because ive fought it off after a struggle, i only took one mind and may of felt totally different on 2 ..but that wasnt the deal and after how shitty i felt for a long time im so happy i didnt double dose

edit* yeh i have been a little stressed with our baby due later this month and the crazy missus what comes with it lol,been working long hrs uptill a couple of weeks ago so that very well may of been a factor

 

[drivensnow]

Taken two pellets now over the last week. After first one (wednesday) didn't get much sleep for next couple of days (1st night because of drug, others because of having things to do) and felt so tired and weak and bit down. Not as bad as a proper comedown tho. But I would feel bad from drinking and having no sleep.

Did 2nd one in a club few days later (saturday) had even better time than first. Had amazing come up and felt loved up chatting to everyone. This then gave way to a trippy spaced out feeling that while not unpleasent lasted a bit too long (all through till sunday night when I finally got to sleep, took other drugs tho)... When I finally slept I slept from about 11:30pm sunday till 5pm monday. Really tired again and felt a bit like shit and head a bit fried (drank so much tho like 30 hours of drinking). Even today my head feels bit dull and im tired and snapping at people. A lot more manageable than a comedown tho. Just think your head feels bit dull for few days... Need sleep tho or you will feel awful. Defo not one for a school night! Should be ok after good nights sleep tonight...

Edit: Oh and smoking weed hardly does anything while on it!

 

[jimmy_jedi]

For completeness I have posted my response from the 6-apb thread below. As an edit I am still feeling a senation as if I have just taken a cap off my head that was a little tight and to give this some context (not something I am proud of) but I have been through 25 'beans' in one night.

"Right, I am the first to admit that I was singing the virtues of the "official" pellets on Friday, but I guarantee I will not be taking again. I had one pellet at about 8 pm on Friday night. Been to the pub before hand and had 2 pints of lager. I was totally underwhelmed at the first one so about 2 hours later I crushed up half and bombed in a rizzla and for the next 4 hours things were amazing, music was ace, so much energy - I wanted to do everyting! Somewhere in amongst this I must have bombed a full pellet as there was only a half left and I knew my missus wouldn't have touched it.

At about 8 am my missus woke up to find me on the sofa chewing my face off and pouring with sweat. The next 16 hours were hell. All I could do was sit next to the fan to keep myself cool and stare blankly at the tv. I tried everything I could to get to sleep but nothing seemed to cut through. I eventually had a broken nights sleep from around 11pm to 6am.

On Sunday, I was still sweating, clenching my jaw and every noise made me jump. I have done plenty in my time but nothing has made me feel this toxic. Even today my head feels cloudy and I have a tingling sensation over my skin and pain in my lower back.

I appreciate I did too much and YMMV, but if 2.5 pellets did this to an experienced user like myself I worry that someone is going to find themselves in touble soon. I know I will feel good as new soon but you could not pay me enough money to go anywhere near this poison in the future.

Just needed to put my experience out there. Be safe. "

 

[drivensnow]

At about 8 am my missus woke up to find me on the sofa chewing my face off and pouring with sweat. The next 16 hours were hell. All I could do was sit next to the fan to keep myself cool and stare blankly at the tv. I tried everything I could to get to sleep but nothing seemed to cut through. I eventually had a broken nights sleep from around 11pm to 6am.

I must admit I was sweating so badly in the club. People kept coming up to me an asking for pills because I looked so obviously on drugs... Really sweating all night... Normally do but this time I was covered head to toe... Must raise the body temp a bit then I guess... Also got the same head fuzzyness you describe...

 

[caramello]

My vision was pretty scatty and wobbly for the 2 days after experimenting with one p*llet, and i had fairly numbing pains in my kidney areas. Jaw ache went after lots of ibuprofen next day, comedown smoothed out with 300mg of 5-HTP over the 36hrs after, tiredness did seem worse than mdma comedown. Like mdma though, more than once a month or so would be too draining and not so good on my old head, will save others for special times with friends.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

My vision was pretty scatty and wobbly for the 2 days after experimenting with one p*llet, and i had fairly numbing pains in my kidney areas. Jaw ache went after lots of ibuprofen next day, comedown smoothed out with 300mg of 5-HTP over the 36hrs after, tiredness did seem worse than mdma comedown. Like mdma though, more than once a month or so would be too draining and not so good on my old head, will save others for special times with friends.

how many did ya take mate?

ps.. what does YMMV mean?