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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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^^ Never ventured nearly that far in the 2C-E realm, but from what I can gather, and what you probably already know, snorting 2C's is about twice as intense as orally injesting a similar dose. So you're looking at around a 36 mg oral trip. I've read many reports of people dosing in that range, and although it was intense with their entire field of vision taken over by psychedelia, many people enjoyed the experience.

Seems like it's gonna be an intense experience. I would just get comfortable and not plan on moving for quite some time!

Report back how it goes and stay safe!
 
Yeah thats what it seems so far...

So far nothing overboard but definitely already coming on strong.

I dont know if I'm completely off base here, but is it more or less true if you snorted liquid not all of it gets absorbed? Thats something I'm tryin to read about. Because it was about 1ml of liquid but i really felt a good spatter on the back of the throat.

Just tryin to gauge how much REALLY got put up the nose and how much is sittin on a pile of chinese food.

For the record although nearly an hour after dosing I'm actually a lot more comfortable body-load wise than normal... which is odd given its a nasal and as mentioned above, I indulged on chinese immediately before. Peruvian Chinese.
 
Are you saying you are more comfortable body-load wise compared to when you normally snort 2C-E? Cuz I can understand that you'd be more comfortable body-load wise compared to when you take 2C-E orally. But if you are talking about insufflation that is interesting.

I'm not sure about snorting liquids, but it seems like a full 1 ml would be a lot and probably not all of it would absorb. Might not make a huge difference, but I'm sure some of it didn't make it. Hard to say how much, but I could imagine only around 75% of it being absorbed, so that might explain why it's not as intense as you would think. Probably a gods send! I couldn't imagine accidentally diving into that intense of a trip.

If you are already an hour into it and you can type on bluelight, seems like you're doing good!

Enjoy the trip :)
 
Snorting hurts like fuck and is much more potent. I snorted a dose of between 25 and 30mg (it was 30 but I lost a few flecks in the process of prepping my line), had intense shaking, vomiting, and all those other negative symptoms for maybe an hour, then the negatives faded off and it felt like a very high oral dose that didn't last as long. Very visual, the stimulation effect seemed stronger tapered off much quicker once I started coming down.


For someone with little to no 2CE experience but experience with psychs in general - expect to be tripping BALLS, maybe harder than you ever have. I hate comparing doses between such different things but that dose is along the lines of eating over a quarter of shrooms or taking a 10strip of acid - not dangerously high, but DEFINITELY on the high end of normal peoples' dosage range

For the record, I have VERY non-typical responses with this drug. That's why I said I snorted 25-30 and it didn't get too crazy but told you to brace for a rocket ride on 18mg - I have a tolerance to 2CE unlike that of anyone else I've met. 20mg to me is a mild +++ and I've passed the 40mg threshold without ego death or any other ++++ type experience.... It just produces a very consistent, visual +++ with altered thoughts but no tendency whatsoever toward ego death and the like. 15-20 to me is low enough I might be stuck at that ++/+++ threshold where I'm not sober enough to go about my day but not tripping enough to find it that engaging or enjoyable. I know that for most people, 15-20mg orally is enough for a very strong experience. I guess I just have a weird brain chemistry, though; I need about double the dose of most psychedelics, but a single sip of alcohol hits me instantly like a hammer to the head. As always, YMMV.
 
Hey Delsymfan, how bad was snorting the 2C-E suspended in luqid suspension?
I snorted 2C-I and vowed "Never again!"
I wonder how snorting liquid 2C's would be compared to powdered.
Deslymfan, have you snorted 2C-E as a powder and could you compare how it is different than snorting it as a liquid?
Keep us updated how the trip is going.
 
am the liquid wasnt fantastic like i said im not convinced it was particularly well absorbed. I'm still trippin great but just enjoying some nice conversation in spanish btw with some friends down here. Completely comfortable. Really seems almost what i'd exactly expect from a normal 18mg trip... Except it just hurt more to begin with and seemed to start by the time i finished sneezing.

that was the first time putting any 2c-e up my schnozz but i was basically too lazy to let it dry out and chalk up... so i simply stuffed the 1ml up the nose. Never mind not having a good place to let it dry out from its liquid suspension. I just moved into a new apartment and literally cant find a suitable piece of glass.

I laid back to let it stay in the sinus region... it burned. Not as bad as people say. Honestly I just sneezed like a goddamn bajillion times... i kept holding my nose though during it cause i didnt wanna sneeze the juice out. pain was gone in 10 minutes... Hell i'm thinkin bout a bump.
 
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Full theory as of right now:

Compared to my probably 15 doses of 2c-e before. I have no desire to barf up any of my largely full stomach contents...

I think personally probably a bit got sucked up in the nose which led to a quick startup. And the rest landed on top of a pile of chinese food... probably like 50/50...

My experience in this regard with 2c-e on a full stomach is typically a weaker trip for about the same time as normal.

So far its really nothing out of the ordinary so thats what I'm thinkin happened. A nice fast startup... too much liquid really... needs to be less. I'd have to evaporate it out or just take it straight next time. And maybe if it were on an empty stomach i'da gotten a more strong start but in reality its just nothing unusual right now. Kinda mild honestly.

So thats probably a good thing... 18 in the nose straight woulda been a serious bitch IMO.
 
Glad it is working out. One ml definitely seems like a lot to stick up the nose, but it would be interesting to make a more concentrated liquid to use for insuflation.

Enjoy the 2C-E. I think I'm going to try out 2C-T-2 next. Any similarities?

Hey Delsymfan, are you in Spain or South America? The spanish comment made me wonder. If so, you're a lucky traveler, both inner and outer!
 
I'm in peru!

My goal is to trip machu picchu. I'm going in August for my second time.

And yeah everything worked out just fine and dandy. Although i gotta admit when trippin i started typing half my words in spanish before realizing it. Kinda happens. But yeah i've been down here for a year.

I think I probably could shoot for like 1/2 a ml which would carry 9 MG. that would be more likely to stay up there. And of course if not just put more on the other side. I need to get some dishes for the house so i can let it chalk up.
 
^ Sorry for the late reply Delsymfan.

Keep us posted about your Machu Picchu endeavours. Are you planning on taking a trip to Machu Picchu, or actually tripping AT Machu Picchu? I'm sure regardless it will be intensely mystical. I've always wanted to check it out. :D
 
Found this to be a complete waste of time,no effects tried 5mgs tried 25 mgs.Nothing!
My source is trusted and only sells active substances all the others are fine, so it must be me.
I'll keep trying coz I've got loads left lol.
 
^ I say at least try some from a different supplier. I've never heard of anyone who didn't notice effects from 15 mg nevermind 25! What does your sample look like? I know we can't identify it based on that, but it could help.

Is your sample crystally, or powdery? Is it fluffy or dense? White or tan?

You could miss out on an amazing psychedelic by dismissing it after one batch. I'd at least get a friend to try some from the same batch. You say you have loads left! If 15 mg (after a 1 mg allergy test) doesn't provide decent effects then it is undoubtedly something other than 2C-E. My first trial with a 5 mg dose was surprisingly strong actually! It's a very potent RC.

This is one of my faves, don't give up!
 
Undoubtedly is a strong word to use with RCs, but it's very unusual indeed that you could take 25mg and not notice it. Most people would find this to be an excessively high dose.
 
blauwelichten said:
Found this to be a complete waste of time,no effects tried 5mgs tried 25 mgs.Nothing!
My source is trusted and only sells active substances all the others are fine, so it must be me.
I'll keep trying coz I've got loads left lol.
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Are you by any chance eyeballing? My first few trials with 2C-E were relatively unsuccessful because I was eyeballing and taking a much lower amount than I thought (20mg of 2C-E looks like 40mg of 4-AcO-DMT for example) - I only really realised how low my actual doses were recently when I realised how much of my first 250mg bag I have left even after ~15 trips.

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Out of speculation, I think the nausea on 2C-E is a psychosomatic thing, almost all of the people I know who experience nausea on this chemical read up lots of reports that mentioned nausea, and were very worried about it.

I personally have yet to experience proper nausea on it. At times I feel a little queasy for say 15 seconds but that's the worst it's gotten really. Even when snorting very large doses. The only reason for even getting that queasy feeling is that I do not like the taste, but it quickly dissipates, things like Ketamine (which is relatively easy-going until higher doses nausea wise) are much worse for nausea for me.

As an experiment, when giving my friend some 2C-E, I told him nausea was "extremely rare" - he ended up having no nausea whatsoever, so I suspect it is a psychological thing.

Anyone agree/disagree?

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Also, a question, do you guys (who have had a fair experience of both ROAs) prefer snorting or oral 2C-E? So far I prefer snorting, it seems much deeper and more spiritual to me, plus I get more bang for my buck, as I take half/less than half the oral dose for the same intensity - and the duration is almost as long (give or take 1-3 hours) - however I'm thinking about giving oral another try next Monday with a bigger dose.
 
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^Could be but I think of its more of sometimes you get nausea others you don't. People do get more nausea prone than others so it just may be worse for some rather than others.
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I've done it around 15 times now with no nausea. It just doesn't seem nauseating at all to me, some of these times I've even eaten right before dosing. It's weird.
 
^ I never get nausea on 2C-E but others get nausea like clockwork every time they drop, regardless of whether it is a low or higher dose. Everyone reacts differently, simple as that, but this one tends to cause nausea and GI disturbances mre frequently than others.
 
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