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The 6-APB Thread: is this the real deal?

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@iom
Thats exactly what im saying with regards to being just on the threshold and not feeling particularly brill, i've felt like shit on mdma when i've not done enough, then you take a bigger bomb and feel like the dogs bollocks for the remainder of the night.
 
iom said:
Just a note to those considering double dropping and what not. I believe a large part of the problem with these pillets is that the drug is transported from them slowly, akin to an extended release effect. This is consistent with some people reporting up to 3 hours for peak effects.

This could mean that each pillet has roughly 100 mg (+/- variations?) but that the peak effects feel like only 60 mg, yet the entire experience is more drawn out, longer lasting. This means that taking two might get a peak effect closer to the samples but at the expense of having one's body process much more drug in total, meaning a much harsher come-down.

Beware of potential variability between pellets too. We still know little about how the packaging of this substance in pellets has affected both its bio-availability and the distribution of product in the pellets themselves.

This also means: don't write off the substance just yet based on your experience with the pellets. For comparison, MDMA under-doses are notoriously frustrating and even dysphoric experiences, no doubt. See paragraph 2 above.
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Excellent post.

I'd not dare double-drop at this point. Taking one is risk enough, and I'd advise the same to anyone else regardless of what has been reported in these threads.

As I said earlier, the QC of the next batch will need to be a marked improvement over this first release.
 
Just got mine, anyone taking tonight? Going to take some pictures and the like but will post back later. Against some peoples better advice I've decided to plug one pellet at around midnight unless that is someone can give me a bloody good reason not, as I have seen someone posting that one whole pellet plugged was underwhelming.
 
scab said:
Excellent post.

I'd not dare double-drop at this point. Taking one is risk enough, and I'd advise the same to anyone else regardless of what has been reported in these threads.

As I said earlier, the QC of the next batch will need to be a marked improvement over this first release.
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This could cause problems if because of the underwhelming experience some have had and the furious infamous five do decide to up the dose or do something that levels the dose in the pellets because after reading some of these reports some users would be forgiven for thinking that double dropping is the way to go, and what happens when someone uninitiated (like myself) actually does ingest 200+mg of actual 6-APB (or whatever it was that was sent out in the original samples anyway)
 
Scoobysnacks said:
i didnt get stoned till 10 am +21 hrs after taking, so much like wizz in that aspect and was making them that strong i was coughing to fuck
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Yeah i smoked a bit about 24-25 hours after first dose and it brought me down a fair bit, felt pretty paranoid as well. Smoking 10-20 hours in did fuck all apart from make me act like i have mental health problems
 
With all this uncertainty about whether this is 6-APB or not, the quality of pillet production and how much each pillet contains, you would think that by now the 'O5' have GC/MS results on this, showing actual contents and purity.

Why haven't they, because they can't risk that the lab might something illegal contained in them, that's why.

Ask youself this, would you send one of for analysis? I'd like to but wouldn't........

Come on you pro fives, all chip in a pound each and prove us doubters wrong!
 
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Yerg said:
I'm in the SW too and there's good, clean, strong MDMA about. There's some grey crystal about that's pretty nice, and other stuff too.

Fucked is such an ugly word, but I meant that I could have an enjoyable, intense drug experience for less money. My preference would be for psychedelics, opiates or cannabis, all of which one can do for a lot less than £30.
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I cant find any decent stuff anywhere, its all pure white chunks with next to no smell, can do a whole g and be on the threshold. And its half the price it should be which says alot. Looks like i need to keep looking about then!
 
Ben So Furry said:
This could cause problems if because of the underwhelming experience some have had and the furious infamous five do decide to up the dose or do something that levels the dose in the pellets because after reading some of these reports some users would be forgiven for thinking that double dropping is the way to go, and what happens when someone uninitiated (like myself) actually does ingest 200+mg of actual 6-APB (or whatever it was that was sent out in the original samples anyway)
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I sincerely doubt there's anything like 100mg in even the best pellets. People seem to be overlooking the difficulty the vendors have had sourcing sufficient quantities, which leads one to believe they've knowingly short-filled the pellets to stretch their supply. My suspicion is that those claiming to experience an MDMA-like high after a single pellet are either too inexperienced to make such a comparison, or have a very low tolerance.

Regardless, I agree no-one should be dropping two in a session.

As for plugging, if you've never done it I'd advise against it as you can waste a lot of chemical perfecting the technique. There's also scant evidence to support the idea that it boosts the effects of 6-apb.
 
^^ Why do you say there's scant evidence? Almost all chemicals have their dose significantly lowered, usually about halved, by rectal admin. MDMA does, as do other amphetamines. I would be surprised if this doesn't. Plus Shambles at least plugged some of his original samples and found it much stronger and more preferable per dose.

But you CAN waste material if you mess up, especially if you fail to evacuate your bowels beforehand.
 
03-08-2010, 18:38 #548
k.kat
I've gave in i couldn't wait till friday
crushed it & bombed it @ 6:25
licked the spoon no taste,
earlier posts were making it look promising
so fingers crossed .

my update below since this post^

female 7stone skinny,
only thing to eat was a cheese & ham toastie at mid-day,
as it says above i crushed whole pill and bombed it in a rizla at 6:25pm
(minus a scrape to test it with marquis)
time + 30 mins nothing
+ 35 mins felt i needed a poop
+ 65 mins still felt needed a poop
+1&1/2 felt slight nausea, need to poop faded,
felt quite warm, but had done all day,
started to feel head going a bit fuzzy but wasn't sure if it was placebo
went for a walk to shop definitely felt something was happening
now back from shop and its 2hours in,
music was okay but didn't pull me in as much as when on jolly,
i didn't think i would get anything off it but did but it was very mild,
came in waves but just didn't get stronger with each wave,
no rushes, no euphoria, no eye wobbles, no chatters,
i was happy, it was a pleasant mild stimulation but definitely needed to be much stronger,
another way i can think of describing the weakness of strength is if 1 semi decent pill was crushed between about 6 people you felt something but not nearly enough to get you there, like a wind up,
but definitely better than a pip pill,
how mild it was was the sort of hit i expected from mdai but i got nothing from the mdai but i only had half of a half g of it so maybe more was needed,
Now 1:00am still didn't get any stronger than when first started feeling it,
i don't normally do poppers but i sparked up a joint & sniffed some poppers
and it got slightly better i even got a slight chatter,
went to bed at 1:45 had another 3 joints, felt tired was yawning and thought
i was going to be able to sleep, but no i couldn't get to sleep,
i ended up with a very sore head which stayed even after taking 2 paracetamol,
i know you get a sore head with poppers but i only had a few sniffs between
1-1:45 before i went to bed then it was J's,
but what i noticed was even though i didn't get chatters throughout the time from taking it until i sniffed poppers, was when i was in bed i couldn't stop pressing my teeth together and i would become aware of this an open my mouth and i would start chattering,
so the pain in my head could have been from pressing my teeth together,
i didn't get to sleep until about 4pm ish on wednesday
and only after taking 2 ibuprofen about 3 ish the pain in my head went away,

so i have now received 4 and will probably double dunt this time to see if its stronger but not until next friday as i have a few things on.
i will definitely wont be doing poppers next time to see if he pain in head happens or not,

the one i got was a chunky one but the 4 i got today was different
there is one chunky one three smaller ones, they were all in the same foil packet,
all together they weigh 1.2g, the chunky one is 0.4g, 2 small ones are 0.3g & the other small one is 0.2g weird,
also the 3 smaller ones have a bumpy bit at one edge,
i have added attachments of them and went real close to try and make these bumps visable, they almost look white going that close but they are the sme colour as my first one, peachy/orange,
the 2 attachments are the same pellets that i got today,

also added what my first one looks like with marquis
1st one turned that colour the second it dropped on
2nd pic was a few second more
i will probably test the other ones too when im taking them
just to see if the results are the same
 

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I was not advocating that people should double-drop these pellets, apologies if it came across that way. I was simply wondering if anyone had reported doing it.

I agree that baby-steps are definitely the way forward with this, as with all new RCs.
 
xorkoth said:
^^ why do you say there's scant evidence? Almost all chemicals have their dose significantly lowered, usually about halved, by rectal admin. Mdma does, as do other amphetamines. I would be surprised if this doesn't. Plus shambles at least plugged some of his original samples and found it much stronger and more preferable per dose.

But you can waste material if you mess up, especially if you fail to evacuate your bowels beforehand.
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evidence.
 
scab said:
I sincerely doubt there's anything like 100mg in even the best pellets. People seem to be overlooking the difficulty the vendors have had sourcing sufficient quantities, which leads one to believe they've knowingly short-filled the pellets to stretch their supply. My suspicion is that those claiming to experience an MDMA-like high after a single pellet are either too inexperienced to make such a comparison, or have a very low tolerance.

Regardless, I agree no-one should be dropping two in a session.

As for plugging, if you've never done it I'd advise against it as you can waste a lot of chemical perfecting the technique. There's also scant evidence to support the idea that it boosts the effects of 6-apb.
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But if what yourself and i believe is true, that they are well underdosed, then why do you think it'd be a problem doing more than 1 pill? I mean, i reckon there's about 40mg per pill given the reports on the pure powder samples.

Why isn't the dose on the packet?!? To cover the manufacturer because there is not 100mg of 6-apb in each pill!
 
I received 4 pillets this morning. They arrived well packaged in a small brown jiffy bag. The pellets are in good condition, they all appear to be the same colour and size. Will be dropping at least 1 of them tonight and will probably post later while im fucked :D
 
Juice23 said:
But if what yourself and i believe is true, that they are well underdosed, then why do you think it'd be a problem doing more than 1 pill? I mean, i reckon there's about 40mg per pill given the reports on the pure powder samples.

Why isn't the dose on the packet?!? To cover the manufacturer because there is not 100mg of 6-apb in each pill!
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Despite suspicions, we've no idea. Low bio-availability could be due to a number of alternative reasons.
 
k.kat said:
03-08-2010, 18:38 #548
k.kat
I've gave in i couldn't wait till friday
crushed it & bombed it @ 6:25
licked the spoon no taste,
earlier posts were making it look promising
so fingers crossed .

my update below since this post^

female 7stone skinny,
only thing to eat was a cheese & ham toastie at mid-day,
as it says above i crushed whole pill and bombed it in a rizla at 6:25pm
(minus a scrape to test it with marquis)
time + 30 mins nothing
+ 35 mins felt i needed a poop
+ 65 mins still felt needed a poop
+1&1/2 felt slight nausea, need to poop faded,
felt quite warm, but had done all day,
started to feel head going a bit fuzzy but wasn't sure if it was placebo
went for a walk to shop definitely felt something was happening
now back from shop and its 2hours in,
music was okay but didn't pull me in as much as when on jolly,
i didn't think i would get anything off it but did but it was very mild,
came in waves but just didn't get stronger with each wave,
no rushes, no euphoria, no eye wobbles, no chatters,
i was happy, it was a pleasant mild stimulation but definitely needed to be much stronger,
another way i can think of describing the weakness of strength is if 1 semi decent pill was crushed between about 6 people you felt something but not nearly enough to get you there, like a wind up,
but definitely better than a pip pill,
how mild it was was the sort of hit i expected from mdai but i got nothing from the mdai but i only had half of a half g of it so maybe more was needed,
Now 1:00am still didn't get any stronger than when first started feeling it,
i don't normally do poppers but i sparked up a joint & sniffed some poppers
and it got slightly better i even got a slight chatter,
went to bed at 1:45 had another 3 joints, felt tired was yawning and thought
i was going to be able to sleep, but no i couldn't get to sleep,
i ended up with a very sore head which stayed even after taking 2 paracetamol,
i know you get a sore head with poppers but i only had a few sniffs between
1-1:45 before i went to bed then it was J's,
but what i noticed was even though i didn't get chatters throughout the time from taking it until i sniffed poppers, was when i was in bed i couldn't stop pressing my teeth together and i would become aware of this an open my mouth and i would start chattering,
so the pain in my head could have been from pressing my teeth together,
i didn't get to sleep until about 4pm ish on thursday
and only after taking 2 ibuprofen about 3 ish the pain in my head went away,

so i have now received 4 and will probably double dunt this time to see if its stronger but not until next friday as i have a few things on.
i will definitely wont be doing poppers next time to see if he pain in head happens or not,

the one i got was a chunky one but the 4 i got today was different
there is one chunky one three smaller ones, they were all in the same foil packet,
all together they weigh 1.2g, the chunky one is 0.4g, 2 small ones are 0.3g & the other small one is 0.2g weird,
also the 3 smaller ones have a bumpy bit at one edge,
i have added attachments of them and went real close to try and make these bumps visable, they almost look white going that close but they are the sme colour as my first one, peachy/orange,
the 2 attachments are the same pellets that i got today,
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very similar to my experience ,excellent report btw:)

i would think double dunting will double the teeth clenching etc
 
@k.kat
That is weird, i didn't think they could vary in size that much! And they all came in the same packet?? I got 5 pills and they were all in seperate packets and all 380mg, i got 4 from 1 vendor and 1 from a different one.
 
Juice23 said:
@k.kat
That is weird, i didn't think they could vary in size that much! And they all came in the same packet?? I got 5 pills and they were all in seperate packets and all 380mg, i got 4 from 1 vendor and 1 from a different one.
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I got my 1st one on tuesday which was chunky from one vendor,
and the 4 today from another vendor as 1st one sold out
but still all from O5

so much mixed reports im just wandering which ones the people that seemed to get a real good hit took if it was chunky ones or smaller ones,
or maybe they just don't have a high tolerance,
 
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