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14 year old and first time E rollin'?

if he is going to do it tell him about a waterbottle 500ml an hour rule give him some vitamins before he rolls like magnesuim and 5htp u no the basics. u shouldnt let a friend dive nose first without giving a heads up im just giving my 2 cents
 
blauwelichten said:
He's a little kid what are you going to say to his parents if he gets sick, his family will hate you forever, his brothers, uncles, cousins will batter the fuck out of you whenever, there will be police involvement, your mum and dad will be crying for weeks and they will feel guilt that they son up to be an irresponsible little shitbag.
If you think through the implications of a bright little 14 year old lad going to hospital after taking ecstasy, you won't be doing it, imagine the heartache his (already protective) parents will be going through, the tears, the pain, the heartache, the guilt.
Parents are responsible for their children, so don't put them through the possibility of that, its a massive insult to them and cruel to them.
Adults can take their own decisions and can chooose to be irresponsible.
If you choose to be irresponsible on someone elses behalf, that has massive implications.
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Well said.
 
Have a read of this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/13/mark-hennessy-ecstasy-ruined-life

Think though the implications of this happening to your mates brother, and start sweating, because I'll be completely honest, the guilt you would feel every time you thought about it would break your heart.

Yes its unlikely, its a rarity for something like this to happen, but a rarity is not an impossibility. It can happen, and there is no way of telling for sure whether it will.

Think through the implications, giving kids ecstasy is not something that should be taken lightly because 14 year olds rarely have the foresight or experience to weigh up the choices available and to fully think through the consequences of their actions, thats partly why parents are morally and legally responsible for their children. I have no problem with adults buying drugs off other adults, they own their own responsibilty, children dont.
 
i also think 14 is far too young.
i'm 17 now and i didnt try e until i was 16 (and shit..i havent had a proper roll since then)
 
Newbierock said:
Personally I believe you and all the other older people providing the pills should educate yourselves first so that you actually have some idea what your talking about.

It's one thing the kid not knowing much, but the guys giving him the drugs don't seem to know much either. Bad idea much?


Saying that my fist pill was at 14 and I really had no clue about E either. Bear in mind I spent the next year and half dopping much more thasn I should have.
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agree with this.

to be to the point to the OP, get a fucking grip.

it doesn't matter what drug it is, if you don't know what it does and how it works etc etc, then how the fuck can you possibly ensure someone else's safety?

read a book and tell the kid to wait til he's a bit older and knows for himself before he tries
 
14 is too young. It's a bad idea, especially given that the pill is confirmed to be more than just MDMA. If there's a psychedelic aspect to it, it might be a REALLY bad idea. Even if it were MDMA, it would still not be good to give it to a 14-year-old, his brain is too early in development for MDMA to be safe.

Don't do it. If there's a chance that he'll score the pills on his own, look out for it and make sure he's not being an idiot when he eats them, but also don't be a source for him yourself. Do what you can to delay his experimentation until he has a little more independence and a little more wisdom.
 
Im not his friend, dad ir brother.HIS Brother will give it to him not me.

Ive done the pill.Its NOTHING intense like MDA.One pill just gives that flow, 3 pills give u hallucionations like moving trees and shit.

I cant stop him or his brother, he will give him half pill and if he doesnt notice anything he will give him the other half.He smokes weed so hes brain is already fucked up big time, from smoking pot 2 years non stop.I've seen 14year olds snorting amphetamine already so i dont think E is worse than Amphetamine.

The Pill is alot weaker than MDA but it is verry similiar to MDA.

Cmon its Lithuania - If there would be a movie about drug addicts in LT i would put Gary Jules - Mad World :D
 
This threads pretty pointless, you should delete it as all it is going to have is a hundred more people saying you suck. It started out with talk that had some point but now it's just tons of people re writing what they read posted above them. I think most people who roll start when they're under 18 but that's just a guess, if HE doesn't REALLY want to try it then don't bug him to, he'll obviously want to do it again(if he's most people) and could over use when he's young, while if he doesn't try it till he's a bit older he won't crave it before then. See my point? I (sort of) wish I started rolling later, but on the other hand the pills I started with were amazing pills, that older people were saying "they're like the pills of the 80s!" about, so I have good memories...
Meth+MDMA potentiate damage done. If he's going to roll explain that stuff to him(it doesn't seem like you know very much yourself...), and more importantly explain MODERATION!!!!
 
Why the fuck you talkin' shit about me? I dont support him with drugs, i dont force him into it, hes not my friend, i dont even know him, i barrely saw him couple of times.

Hes just a brother of my friend, MY FRIEND is gonna give it to him, he wants it, no one forces him into it.Im just here to ask questions about safety because my friend asked me to.

He gonna drop that fucked up shit tonite, at about 1 o clock.Half of pill.If it doesnt do anything he gonna pop another half.I DONT EVEN BELIEVE that he can OD, or fuck his brain up from half of pill...It is weak shit.Im not here that you can judge me by my friend actions.I cant stop him, friend and his brother doesnt listen to me.I wont tell him that shit with a gun, he still wont listen to me.My first drop was at 15.I dropped 1 pill, waited half of hour and then it hit me, the sweat and shit, i started to drink water and chewed gum, it was fine after 20 mins, No side effects just rollin'...
 
aivaras said:
Why the fuck you talkin' shit about me? I dont support him with drugs, i dont force him into it, hes not my friend, i dont even know him, i barrely saw him couple of times.

Hes just a brother of my friend, MY FRIEND is gonna give it to him, he wants it, no one forces him into it.Im just here to ask questions about safety because my friend asked me to.

He gonna drop that fucked up shit tonite, at about 1 o clock.Half of pill.If it doesnt do anything he gonna pop another half.I DONT EVEN BELIEVE that he can OD, or fuck his brain up from half of pill...It is weak shit.Im not here that you can judge me by my friend actions.I cant stop him, friend and his brother doesnt listen to me.I wont tell him that shit with a gun, he still wont listen to me.My first drop was at 15.I dropped 1 pill, waited half of hour and then it hit me, the sweat and shit, i started to drink water and chewed gum, it was fine after 20 mins, No side effects just rollin'...
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It's not about him getting fucked up from his first use, it's about the fact that he's BARELY a teen. I dropped for the first time when I was 15 too. And I wish I would have waited. His brain isn't developed enough to be messing with the chemistry. You asked our opinion and we're giving it, if you didn't want it you should not have asked. But ask yourself, if this kid starts abusing, will you continue to supply him?
It's a question of morals man.
 
nO WAy !

A 14year old is no age to he rolling. The mind aint even developed enough to understamd the impacts of rollin on a tough bean.

If your brain is still developin, yer gonna do some serious damage to that same brain cause your just a tot whos growin. Shit i didnt even start until I was 20...

I cant imagine what a wreck Id be today if I had fucked up my life by rollin at that age.

Best bet, grab a joint and a six pack of bud light.
(it will save you money, ecstasy is way to dangerous to be takng at 14. Sorry if im sayin too mucb but i mean this to be true and dont want to see you cross in'n the dark side...

Be patient. 3 more years and you can start thinking about it then. Dont make me tell your mommy
 
aivaras said:
Why the fuck you talkin' shit about me? I dont support him with drugs, i dont force him into it, hes not my friend, i dont even know him, i barrely saw him couple of times.

Hes just a brother of my friend, MY FRIEND is gonna give it to him, he wants it, no one forces him into it.Im just here to ask questions about safety because my friend asked me to.

He gonna drop that fucked up shit tonite, at about 1 o clock.Half of pill.If it doesnt do anything he gonna pop another half.I DONT EVEN BELIEVE that he can OD, or fuck his brain up from half of pill...It is weak shit.Im not here that you can judge me by my friend actions.I cant stop him, friend and his brother doesnt listen to me.I wont tell him that shit with a gun, he still wont listen to me.My first drop was at 15.I dropped 1 pill, waited half of hour and then it hit me, the sweat and shit, i started to drink water and chewed gum, it was fine after 20 mins, No side effects just rollin'...
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Fucking hell calm down. We weren't saying it will kill them smarty. What we wouldn't want happening is somebody realizing how good rolling is(especially with meth!) when they're 14 and then over-use it and be obsessed with it, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I also first really used at 15, so did a ton of people around me, some in the schools below me are 14 and roll now(they're mostly girls, don't know why, they're hardercorerer than the guys I guess). If he's going to do it just explain to him that he shouldn't use more than every few months. Of everybody that said they'd use once, ONE person I know made that true. Also half a pill won't do anything decent.
I wasn't saying you were pushing it, just stating that if you were you shouldn't. If he's not mature don't let it happen, he will over use.
 
Why the fuck you mentioned me in your post? Im not suplying that little shit with the fucking xtc.his brother is.
 
aivaras said:
Why the fuck you mentioned me in your post? Im not suplying that little shit with the fucking xtc.his brother is.
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Just give him a tylenol and die it with a little food coloring. I bet the placebo would have him not even noticin.

Honestly dude, this kid is more like your "friends little brother"... if the brother is a dumbfuck enuff t give him a pill then you cant stop that...but your a BAD friend and influence on this kid for allowing him yer approval.

Just walk away if he will still do The beans on his own...you dont want no part in this.

Remember this retarded disaster? Do yo really want to be like this e tarded"roll model"?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzJaXd5C_Lo&feature=youtube_gdata
 
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