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The 6-APB thread v. Is full of dummies

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Plan to take one pellet tomorrow approx 3pm after an earlier allergy test - have work at 8am next day - Can anyone advise on likely duration (total) of one pellet ... need to have my shit together at work ........how will 17 hours from ingestion be? Any info on comedown and sleep possibility etc.?....would take me all night to read ALL the posts since yesterday

Good to see from what I've read that its generally good things being said.

Can anyone comment on interactions with cannabis and or alcohol...
 
iom said:
This only works if the percent active by mass is constant, which is probably not likely given the variability of the pellets themselves. You might be able to establish a rough correlation at least, but that'd be pretty hard given the difficulty of quantifying a person's subjective experience. Also, how do you account for tolerance which is largely unknown and probably variable between users?
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Wouldn't one expect those factors just to add noise to our measurement of fuckedness? So long as those factors (subjectivity, and tolerance) do not co-vary with pellet size (and I don't see how they could be expected to co-vary with pellet size), a sufficiently large sample size will average out the noise sufficiently to detect a dose-fuckedness relationship. Of course, the sample size might need to be pretty big. It's worth trying to collect the data, though, I think; particularly where individual users have a range of pellet sizes available, since that comparison would at least remove differences due to individual temperament.
 
Mine came in a brown jiffy and was recorded delivery, why do you want to know? don't work at the sorting office do you?
 
same here, and the envelope was torn with half the orange package hanging out the side!
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lmao - thats a little worrying - My post goes via my landlord's office first - he is a solicitor that works in the adjacent building (strange set up I know!)

Maybe due to high demand and a large volume of orders - (due to the delay) sensible postage methods have been overlooked ... ?

Won't be happy if mine arrives tomorrow with the orange benzo branding sticking out the side lol 8o
 
iom said:
This only works if the percent active by mass is constant, which is probably not likely given the variability of the pellets themselves. You might be able to establish a rough correlation at least, but that'd be pretty hard given the difficulty of quantifying a person's subjective experience. Also, how do you account for tolerance which is largely unknown and probably variable between users?
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I think the idea is to try and get a rough idea IF the percent active by mass is constant. At least if the same person takes a 400mg one week and then a 300mg the next and subjectively reports that the 300 was much stronger then it would point to a variable amount of active ingredient.

The fillers microcrystalline cellulose and magnesium stearate should not be soluble in water, whereas the original pure powder samples were. If you crushed up a pellet, put it in some water and ran it through a filter, you should be able to get rid of the filler and be left with a 6-apb solution (presuming that is what it is). If you then evaporated the water you should be left with pure powder. You would probably get some loss but if you followed the same process for multiple pills the loss shouldbe pretty consistent and you should be able to work out if there are varying amounts of active ingredient between pills and if the weight of the pill corelates to the amount of active ingregient.

I'm not a chemist but it seems like it should work.
 
tallhungry said:
That's pretty crappy behaviour in my book. If you've made a screw up, accept it. Don't go and sell a load of impure/dodgy stuff on to unsuspecting others which had pretty dire consequences for some.
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I agree (im one of the poor sods who is still grinding his jaw 5 days later after sampling this shit)

But you can imagine the horror of recieving a kilo or more of this crap and thinking shit what am I gonna do now?

No doubt these unscrupilous chinese labs offer no form of comeback once the shipment has been signed for, so in a way although it is no doubt both dangerous and unethical to sell it on we all know what money can do to a man!

Whilst for some greedy bastards probably sold it on without an afterthought im sure there were some that faced a huge moral dilema when they realised what they had bought wasn't 6-apb.

Not forgetting we are not talking about mega corperations here we are talking about your average joe , with an average job dropping a few grand into what he thought was an investment.

Not a nice situation and another huge lesson from the effects of prohibition!
 
Anyway postage issues aside; 35 minutes in, been to shops for some booze, felt a bit sketchy but probably just anticipation, a bit stimmed perhaps. other than that an uneventful walk to the shops, was gonna question the shop assistant as to why she charged me full price for my Carlsberg Export when it said 2 for £7 on the shelf... but decided against it. could have started rushing like a mad cunt halfway through my complaint... just not a good look.
 
botfly said:
Has anyone who's tried them had trouble getting to sleep after they've worn off? Also how long do the big pupils last for? as in does it have a proper long half-life?
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Yes mate i haven't slept yet but dont feel upset about it.. mdma and meth has the same effect on me.....i had to phone in sick 2 work this morning at 9 o'clock after necking a case of bud in the early hours=D..about 1 am i knew there was no chance me going to work..my eyes were still like saucers at 9am...

i took 2 pellets one shortly after 12pm and stupidly re-dosed sometime between 8pm and 10pm not quite sure...it hit me a lot quicker , but i did get a cracking sore head in the early hours was on the beer big style by then so didn't really care....i realise now i never drank any non alcoholic fluids all day though which im sure didn't help

i'll sleep well tonight gonna go get a few ciders here and head to bed early
 
acholmes2000 said:
Not a nice situation and another huge lesson from the effects of prohibition!
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a lesson they'll never learn unfortunately. glad to hear you're feeling better, I followed your ordeal at the weekend. am i right in saying you boshed about 700mg of that fake shit, dude?
 
Osky_P said:
Anyway postage issues aside; 35 minutes in, been to shops for some booze, felt a bit sketchy but probably just anticipation, a bit stimmed perhaps. other than that an uneventful walk to the shops, was gonna question the shop assistant as to why she charged me full price for my Carlsberg Export when it said 2 for £7 on the shelf... but decided against it. could have started rushing like a mad cunt halfway through my complaint... just not a good look.
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Hi, osky did you crush up the pellet then swallow or the pellet whole?
 
Osky_P said:
Anyway postage issues aside; 35 minutes in, been to shops for some booze, felt a bit sketchy but probably just anticipation, a bit stimmed perhaps. other than that an uneventful walk to the shops, was gonna question the shop assistant as to why she charged me full price for my Carlsberg Export when it said 2 for £7 on the shelf... but decided against it. could have started rushing like a mad cunt halfway through my complaint... just not a good look.
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Jesus, I just finished my shift at the off license where i work (2nd job) and today there were price changes .... export is £6.50 but scanning at £7 on the till....the poor assistant was probs just trying to do their job! My company screw with the prices all the time and it can cause problems!
 
anyone know if 17 hours on 1 pellet is sufficient duration from ingestion to reaching work mode?
 
xbushyx said:
Hi, osky did you crush up the pellet then swallow or the pellet whole?
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hi, crushed into a nice fine powder, then added water, good old stir and down the hatch. rinsed the cup out several times aswell as it hadn't completely dissolved. tasted like tcp, which everyone mentions.

45 minutes in and getting the tingles.
 
acholmes2000 said:
I agree (im one of the poor sods who is still grinding his jaw 5 days later after sampling this shit)

But you can imagine the horror of recieving a kilo or more of this crap and thinking shit what am I gonna do now?

No doubt these unscrupilous chinese labs offer no form of comeback once the shipment has been signed for, so in a way although it is no doubt both dangerous and unethical to sell it on we all know what money can do to a man!

Whilst for some greedy bastards probably sold it on without an afterthought im sure there were some that faced a huge moral dilema when they realised what they had bought wasn't 6-apb.

Not forgetting we are not talking about mega corperations here we are talking about your average joe , with an average job dropping a few grand into what he thought was an investment.

Not a nice situation and another huge lesson from the effects of prohibition!
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Is that disgusting smelling orange shit that my 'mate' gave me a free sample of and called it 'Fury'? Didn't have any effects on me at all, despite having about 0.4g of it. Never smelt anything as bad in my life. My 'mate' had 3 ounces of that to shift aswell, unlucky for him.
 
Osky_P said:
a lesson they'll never learn unfortunately. glad to hear you're feeling better, I followed your ordeal at the weekend. am i right in saying you boshed about 700mg of that fake shit, dude?
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No mate only 230mg thankgod! really took it out of me though! on that note has chocks been about recently (thats the dude that took 700mg) would be interesting to hear how he got on
 
rwjh1979 said:
anyone know if 17 hours on 1 pellet is sufficient duration from ingestion to reaching work mode?
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It should be, but it depends on what sort of work it is i suppose. I felt the main effect lasted about 8 hours, but i was still stimulated for another few hours - probably 10-12 hours in all for me - get 5 hours kip and you should be fine.

Although i still felt a little buzzed today from last night - not in a massive way, felt a bit tired but a with nice mood and quite energetic (considering i didn't sleep much) - i wouldn't have wanted to go to work today, but i probably could have (im on holiday now though)
 
Osky_P said:
hi, crushed into a nice fine powder, then added water, good old stir and down the hatch. rinsed the cup out several times aswell as it hadn't completely dissolved. tasted like tcp, which everyone mentions.

45 minutes in and getting the tingles.
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yea , i crushed the pellet then put it into as rizla and bombed, i started feeling warm and fuzzy at about 30-45 mins after bombing. then between 1-2 hours after bombing it intensifys grately over time in waves.
 
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