The 6-APB thread v. Is full of dummies

[Ben So Furry]

Hi just had postie drop this through my letterbox think this may shed some light on some inconsistancys looking at them from left to right there is not only a noticable colour difference from 2 on left compared to the ones on the right, but also a side veiw reviels a big difference in actual size, and definate poor pressing of pellets.

now i'm going to test them in same order with marquis, simmons and robadope reagents results to follow shortly.

that's completely mental! How can 4 of the same product with exactly the same amount of active and filler, pressed by the same people differ so much in colour and size? what the hell is going on with that?

 

[eggymandoo]

Quick question. will these be alright to consume after a session of alcohol? At the races saturday and inevitability will get pissed, but clubbing after and wanna know will the booze negate the effects like mdxx or possibly be lethal. Anyone here managed to drink on em? 8(

 

[JackHereruk]

The issue here is not about the identity or the quality of the product. It is about the amount of the product that is available to the Uk vendors.

FACT: The effects of 1 pellet of this release do not nearly equal the effects of 100mg of the 2nd synth. (225mg nearly killed - see various reports of this experience from me, shambles, gzero, and flipping top).
FACT: The delays were NOT a marketing ploy, they were driven by the manufacturers production problems / dishonesty / escalating costs / and difficulty buying precursors in bulk
FACT: The official 5 vendors received roughly 1/100th of the quantity they were expecting

PREDICTION: The pellets contain filler - reports of 2 or 3 redoses!! - come on people...
PREDICTION: Even these cut pellets will not be available for long as the stock is extremely low. I'm willing to bet the wholesale pre-orders have not been fulfilled. Anyone here who placed a wholesale order with the 'official 5' want to comment?

Hmm not sure about your fact 1 a couple of people who had samples and the "pellets" have subjectively estimated that the "pellets" contain close to 100mg based on their experiences of the both. None of the people you mention have posted a TR of the "pellets" so the variation in reports might just be the YMMV factor.

I remember you posting about acidentally taking 225mg, I am interested to know what kind of comedown you got of such a (over?)dose. How did it compare to an MDMA comedown?

 

[eggymandoo]

Hi just had postie drop this through my letterbox think this may shed some light on some inconsistancys looking at them from left to right there is not only a noticable colour difference from 2 on left compared to the ones on the right, but also a side veiw reviels a big difference in actual size, and definate poor pressing of pellets.

now i'm going to test them in same order with marquis, simmons and robadope reagents results to follow shortly.

mine are identical, have lumps and are inconsistent...

 

[BigFishLittleFish]

The issue here is not about the identity or the quality of the product. It is about the amount of the product that is available to the Uk vendors.

FACT: The effects of 1 pellet of this release do not nearly equal the effects of 100mg of the 2nd synth. (225mg nearly killed - see various reports of this experience from me, shambles, gzero, and flipping top).
FACT: The delays were NOT a marketing ploy, they were driven by the manufacturers production problems / dishonesty / escalating costs / and difficulty buying precursors in bulk
FACT: The official 5 vendors received roughly 1/100th of the quantity they were expecting

PREDICTION: The pellets contain filler - reports of 2 or 3 redoses!! - come on people...
PREDICTION: Even these cut pellets will not be available for long as the stock is extremely low. I'm willing to bet the wholesale pre-orders have not been fulfilled. Anyone here who placed a wholesale order with the 'official 5' want to comment?

As far as i know not one reseller had a wholesale order fullfilled and being honest the '5' should have satisfied thouse orders first but instead got greedy and retailed themselves.

 

[BigFishLittleFish]

Hi just had postie drop this through my letterbox think this may shed some light on some inconsistancys looking at them from left to right there is not only a noticable colour difference from 2 on left compared to the ones on the right, but also a side veiw reviels a big difference in actual size, and definate poor pressing of pellets.

now i'm going to test them in same order with marquis, simmons and robadope reagents results to follow shortly.

There lab is a micky mouse outfit, just look at the difference in pills from left to right, no consitancy at all.... very bad.... How can you possible have the same amount in the far left one as the far right one????

 

[JackHereruk]

that's completely mental! How can 4 of the same product with exactly the same amount of active and filler, pressed by the same people differ so much in colour and size? what the hell is going on with that?

Crap QA and crap pressing and manufacturing process. Hmm it might sugest that the amount of "6-apb" (or whatever active compund it is) in each pill is variable which would explain the varaible trip reports. On the other hand it might just be variable amounts of filler and a cheap pressing machine and the variable reports are just due to the YMMV factor, until some actual pills are analysed or people have tripped on them a few times and report different levels of high from different pills then we won't know.

 

[eggymandoo]

The official "5" are clearly just one company, and are simply demonstrating basic business strategy. I'm afraid the demand is high on these after the clever market research and over-hyped release date. bad times.

 

[eggymandoo]

Crap QA and crap pressing and manufacturing process. Hmm it might sugest that the amount of "6-apb" (or whatever active compund it is) in each pill is variable which would explain the varaible trip reports. On the other hand it might just be variable amounts of filler and a cheap pressing machine and the variable reports are just due to the YMMV factor, until some actual pills are analysed or people have tripped on them a few times and report different levels of high from different pills then we won't know.

As long as there isn't a mitsubishi sign on em it aint all bad yet

 

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>ben so fury. looks like a rush job in the mixing pressing of pellets as stated earlier its quite complex to get this exact, tests looks promising though

 

[UYI]

Got my 'official' pellet this morning, opened the packet and suprise suprise it was crushed so i got my 0.00 scales out and weighed it and came to 0.30 (300mg) exactly and after reading on here someone also weighed theirs and it came to 0.40 (400mg) its safe to say I'm heavily on the side of not buying a single one again, this variation of trip reports and picture above of different sizes clearly demonstrates a piss poor attempt at pellet creation, cunts.

I'll sample it friday evening and compare it to what I recieved off 1 of the non 'official' vendors but I dont appretiate being fucked up the ass by these vendors and if I dont have a magical night friday I'll be sticking to my methylone and kratom.

 

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V_Marquis test result:

Quick reaction on all four straight to purple/dark purple No fissing!

left to right weight:

(1) 250mg (2)290mg (3)300mg (4)310mg

thats a 60mg difference smallest to largest!! WTF

 

[Scoobysnacks]

Hmm not sure about your fact 1 a couple of people who had samples and the "pellets" have subjectively estimated that the "pellets" contain close to 100mg based on their experiences of the both. None of the people you mention have posted a TR of the "pellets" so the variation in reports might just be the YMMV factor.

I remember you posting about acidentally taking 225mg, I am interested to know what kind of comedown you got of such a (over?)dose. How did it compare to an MDMA comedown?

not one person was high like when they had samples, so i wd say there not as strong, read the original reports, them guys were off it big time, between 70mg-100mg, seriously differnt level to the pellet testers

 

[Hector_Techno]

>ben so fury. looks like a rush job in the mixing pressing of pellets as stated earlier its quite complex to get this exact, tests looks promising though

It's not that hard. If they had invested "£200,000" each as quoted (FFS who said that again!? ROFL), they could have invested another £10-20k for a mixing machine, and the same for a continuous tablet press with the correct sized dies (based on excipient and active ingredient volume ratios).


Anyway, I'll be waiting a while until I buy.

 

[TMenderoflives]

Roughly 1 1/2 hours since me and a mate huffed a pellet each. crushed up with the back of a knife then mixed with water. mate was properly feeling it after about 15 minutes and has been LOVING it ever since. Come up was pretty unpleasant for me, i was sick 3 times but my mate was fine. Im fine now though and FUCKING LOVING IT :D.

ill do my best to keep you posted but im struggling lol

 

[Sweet2TheBeat]

not one person was high like when they had samples, so i wd say there not as strong, read the original reports, them guys were off it big time, between 70mg-100mg, seriously differnt level to the pellet testers

bullshit scooby i was well out of it .......it was the same as sample i tryed

 

[Scoobysnacks]

Roughly 1 1/2 hours since me and a mate huffed a pellet each. crushed up with the back of a knife then mixed with water. mate was properly feeling it after about 15 minutes and has been LOVING it ever since. Come up was pretty unpleasant for me, i was sick 3 times but my mate was fine. Im fine now though and FUCKING LOVING IT :D.

ill do my best to keep you posted but im struggling lol

ya nick an anagram of venderofliesTM haha

 

[Scoobysnacks]

bullshit scooby i was well out of it .......it was the same as sample i tryed

ya had 200mg mate, for the peeps who took 1 im on about

 

[TMenderoflives]

ya nick an anagram of venderofliesTM haha

lol my initials are TM and because im 20 and a bit of a cunt i thought it would be funny to have ender of lives in my name. sorry about that!

seriously though, my mate is off his tits. im not quite there but im feeling good

 

[TMenderoflives]

think im gonna do another half to get where he is. let me get this straight, this isnt morish or anything but i just wanna get THAT high