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The 6-APB thread (Part 2)

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mugabe said:
plugges around about 30mg at 4pm, Feeling a nice smooth comeup. I gave angelsmoke the remainder. Although can't be certain about the doses as our scales broke during the weighing.
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Mugabe is that from a sample that was offered to you again or from a different batch?
 
mugabe said:
Was from the sample that they resent, from the sample that I took a picture of earlier.
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Did you try any of the stuff similar to what I had on Wednesday night?
Am gonna measure up the rest of what I have left and use it tomorrow while im festivaling, got a mate coming over with some 5-meo-dalt, elemi oil (with DMSO for extraction) and am sure there is a little 4mmc kicking about here to tide me over, plus there is the potential for a little aMT as a taster, so by all accounts, it's gonna go off this weekend :p

Keep us posted on your latest research, I have some pellets on their way Monday, so fingers crossed they arrive Tuesday and the fun can begin.
 
my pellets were coming from a vendor who was to get them from the official 5. in contacting them i was told even the offical vendors dont have enough for them self so wholesale orders havent been met and there will be a further wait of and i quote 'a week or so'
 
Anyone tried vapourising their samples yet?
Mate just arrived with a vapouriser and was thinkning of doing a little in it to see what happens.
 
i heard from my vendor that it will be at least two weeks...middle of Aug - and they are usually spot on.

anyway....

just an update people so you don't have to read through individual ramblings beforehand ....

11am - dropped and snorted around 100mg of what now turns out to be "5-IAI" (who knows if its actually even 5-iai?) which i thought was 6-apb so guess this makes this post irrelevant in this thread BUT i didn't know this at the time and his could be useful to peeps anyway (and the 5-iai thread has been shut for ages now anyway.)

about 2pm after getting bored with little to no effect dropped around 600mg (there i said it!) i felt wonderful, euphoric and stimulated (everything i was looking for - rattly eyes and teeth, music appreciation, high) for ummm about 30-40 mins tops.

now , (17.30) still feel 'on something' bit of blurry vision, less stimulated, can actually type now, bit more chilled - music still good, but clearer headed and a bit philosophical (keep stopping to think more 'deeply' about things....even minor things like "why has the 5-iai thread not been reopened?" are taking way too much of my concentration - which is low enough as it is.

oh and my usually excellent writing style has "gone for a burton" and i'm reduced to using silly northern expressions about nipping out for a packet of biscuits.

see what i did there? clever i am.

I've also just text "i love you" to my teenage stepson, which is out of the norm completely!!

not completely a waste as i'm enjoying today - going to the pub now so this may completely get rid of the good effects i'm experiencing...time will tell...

hope this drivel helps someone.
 
Dropped a 100mg bomber last night at 7pm, it was everything i expected was impressed with the consistency of the high without the urge to take more to stay on cloud 9.

Not all great though, as a veteran speed user I generally have good control of my jaw and the impulsive fidgeting in the mouth that amphetamines cause but I really struggled with this stuff, was surprised.

Its been 23 hours since i did the one n only 100mg bomber and i havent slept, im still on a high which seems rather unusual and my jaw is swinging side to side .... and i've also been through 1 stick of the missus` lip gloss xD

Getting the dosage right is definitely gonna screw up a lot of users. This stuff seems very strong in terms of volume to effect ratio. (not very technical lol)

I know for sure I did too much, 100mg was far too much for my height to body ratio. Looking forward to doing a smaller (say 50mg bomber) next weekend.

All in all, im very impressed with this chemical, its definitely the best legal chemical I have ever come across on the net but - its young, would be interested to know if it has any long-term side effects.

Time to try and lower my heart rate (had the resting heart-rate of a serial killer for almost 24 hours) will start out with a nice J :)

oh, and the sex on this stuff is awesome!

EDIT - There is so much more to tell, i could go on forever, so if anyone wants a more detailed report feel free to PM me, but please do not PM me asking me what vendor i purchased it from as i dont want to get pulled into this vendor war :P My main intentions for posting here is to raise awareness on the dosage issue, it makes the difference between a great time and an ok time and whether your going to go to sleep or sit there all day the next day grinding your teeth lol! As its so strong, such a little amount is needed and I expect a lot of veteran MDMA and Speed users to go straight for large bombers or to bomb more when they havent come up after 3 hours.

You will come up and it will be with a POW!!
 
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darkfury418 said:
Dropped a 100mg bomber last night at 7pm,.........

Time to try and lower my heart rate (had the resting heart-rate of a serial killer for almost 24 hours) will start out with a nice J :)......
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When i took 100mg of official sample (twice), my heart rate wasn't noticeably high (max about 25 bpm above normal - nowhere near as high as i got from m1/meph) - and it lasted a good 12 hours to baseline (~6 hours peak), but not more. The effect you got sounds strong, but if you paid money for it, it may not be 'real 6apb' but some substitute (if so sounds pretty good anyway) - did you test with marquis (or is it the same batch as any that someone else has tested?
 
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I have read some reports, as is it to expected, very little to suggest it was indeed 6-APB, but certainly the substance the reports shared in common was believed to be the samples released a little while back.
Anyway, all mentioned how of the recommended (by distributors and chemists anyway, of the 100mg form the official substance seems to be available in) that the come up, even for a seasoned/veteran user of similar substances as was the case here, was incredibly intense for all concerned, at the majority of times overwhelming and in some cases almost ruining the experience. Unstable vision, unsettled jaw and nausea all were reported to be present in this time.
It appears the come up was in waves, each more intense than the last. This seemed to continue for 1-2 hours approx before evening out, reaching a plateau and filtering in the beautiful euphoria, empathy and positive stimulation. Following these experiences 50mg approx was taken and said to be a good dosage for a first time experience.
Sounds like following an allergy test, in the case of the 'official' 6-APB pellet form anyway, half a pill may be the way to go, before moving up to a 100mg full pellet after people see how their reaction is to 50mg.
Actually, given the resulting experience in reports of 50mg (given the substance in question was actually 5-APB) this dosage level could turn out to be the optimal for a good experience!
 
Vurtual said:
did you test with marquis (or is it the same batch as any that someone else has tested?
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No idea who marquis is buddy :)

Assumed that due to the fact I thoroughly enjoyed the the buzz that surely it must have been the real deal. Not blowing my own trumpet here, but I've been a user of street drugs like MDMA and Speed for a fair few years and have extensive experience of them.

I am new to the legal highs scene though. Its quite worrying, because if that was not 6-APB I experienced last night, then what on earth was it? xD

It was excellent stuff tbh, so similar to MDMA but so different in other ways. Meh! :)
 
darkfury418 said:
No idea who marquis is buddy :)

Assumed that due to the fact I thoroughly enjoyed the the buzz that surely it must have been the real deal. Not blowing my own trumpet here, but I've been a user of street drugs like MDMA and Speed for a fair few years and have extensive experience of them.

I am new to the legal highs scene though. Its quite worrying, because if that was not 6-APB I experienced last night, then what on earth was it? xD

It was excellent stuff tbh, so similar to MDMA but so different in other ways. Meh! :)
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Marquis is a standard drug testing substance (turns certain colours for certain substances). Who knows what it was you got (maybe the 'real' 6-apb' if you believe the conspiracies) - Only way for you to be sure is to get one of the pellets, try that and see if it's the same.

(when i did official sample, it felt just like some old pills from the 90s, no messing about - no wondering if i'm feeling anything, waiting for it to come up - just hope that's what's in the pellets...)
 
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Vurtual said:
Marquis is a standard drug testing substance (turns certain colours for certain substances) - who knows what it was you got - get one of the pellets and try that and find out if it's the same.

(when i did official sample, it felt like some old pills from the 90s)
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Interesting, I'll look into that, cheers!
 
squatlover said:
Where can someone get NMR done on samples. If anyone has access to NMR I would be willing to give up my samples rather than using myself as a test subject.
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Most universities that have a dedicated chemistry department will be able to do both NMR, Mass spectrometry, and Gas chromatography work.

They have to do outside work to cover the costs of their own usage.

You will find them a lot cheaper than private companies as well.
 
Vurtual said:
Marquis is a standard drug testing substance (turns certain colours for certain substances). Who knows what it was you got (maybe the 'real' 6-apb' if you believe the conspiracies) - Only way for you to be sure is to get one of the pellets, try that and see if it's the same.
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And how do you know that the pellets are 6-APB? Have you proof?

I really hope the pellets are 6-apb but i don't think people here realise how difficult this chemical is to make in small quantities let alone large ones.

I honestly believe the lab they are using isn't up to the job, hence the consistancy screw ups at the beginning and now lack of supply.

Anyway we should be looking for the next miracle chemical as this one will be banned in a month.
 
darkfury418 said:
Dropped a 100mg bomber last night at 7pm, it was everything i expected was impressed with the consistency of the high without the urge to take more to stay on cloud 9.

Not all great though, as a veteran speed user I generally have good control of my jaw and the impulsive fidgeting in the mouth that amphetamines cause but I really struggled with this stuff, was surprised.

Its been 23 hours since i did the one n only 100mg bomber and i havent slept, im still on a high which seems rather unusual and my jaw is swinging side to side .... and i've also been through 1 stick of the missus` lip gloss xD

Getting the dosage right is definitely gonna screw up a lot of users. This stuff seems very strong in terms of volume to effect ratio. (not very technical lol)

I know for sure I did too much, 100mg was far too much for my height to body ratio. Looking forward to doing a smaller (say 50mg bomber) next weekend.

All in all, im very impressed with this chemical, its definitely the best legal chemical I have ever come across on the net but - its young, would be interested to know if it has any long-term side effects.

Time to try and lower my heart rate (had the resting heart-rate of a serial killer for almost 24 hours) will start out with a nice J :)

oh, and the sex on this stuff is awesome!

EDIT - There is so much more to tell, i could go on forever, so if anyone wants a more detailed report feel free to PM me, but please do not PM me asking me what vendor i purchased it from as i dont want to get pulled into this vendor war :P My main intentions for posting here is to raise awareness on the dosage issue, it makes the difference between a great time and an ok time and whether your going to go to sleep or sit there all day the next day grinding your teeth lol! As its so strong, such a little amount is needed and I expect a lot of veteran MDMA and Speed users to go straight for large bombers or to bomb more when they havent come up after 3 hours.

You will come up and it will be with a POW!!
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Was this the white crystal or the official stuff???
 
BigFishLittleFish said:
And how do you know that the pellets are 6-APB? Have you proof?

I really hope the pellets are 6-apb but i don't think people here realise how difficult this chemical is to make in small quantities let alone large ones.

I honestly believe the lab they are using isn't up to the job, hence the consistancy screw ups at the beginning and now lack of supply.

Anyway we should be looking for the next miracle chemical as this one will be banned in a month.
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I don't know they contain 6-apb (how could i?) - but the same applies to your doubts about it (how could you know it's not?) - "we just don't know".

Also, what evidence have you got for your suspicions about production (i'm not being sniffy - i genuinely want to know) - (if it's hearsay from this forum i already read it though)

i just want what i tried in the original sample whatever that was - i haven't got a MS machine but i will definitely recognise the effects when i get it again.
 
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Vurtual said:
I don't know they contain 6-apb (how could i?) - but the same applies to your doubts about it (how could you know it's not?) - "we just don't know".

Also, what evidence have you got for your suspicions about production (i'm not being sniffy - i genuinely want to know) - (if it's hearsay from this forum i already read it though)

i just want what i tried in the original sample whatever that was - i haven't got a MS machine but i will definitely recognise the effects when i get it again.
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They are not suspicions, they are based what has been written on the website, where they openly stated they have had problems with scale up.

Scale up is really a science of it's own, e.g.
Say 1 litre of water took 1 min to boil, if you scaled up to boil 50 litres of water it would not take 50 minutes as there are too many factors involved.

This really isn't easy stuff to make even in small quantities, if this is being made more than a kilo a time i'll be well suprised.

Think about it a kilo would make 10,000 pellets @100mg which would mean each site had 2000 pellets approx, 500 customers at a 4 pellet limit, Sound about right??????
 
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