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any psychedelics without emotional aspects?

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any psychedelic experiences - especially perceptual distortions - without the heightened emotions. a psychedelic like drug i could take with people around with an okay set, without issues of increased anxiety or dark thoughts?
 
I found 2c-e to be very emotionally neutral, 2c-i also had a very clear, almost sober-like headspace.

2c-e I think is the one most well known to be emotionally neutral/messes with your headspace the least (of the psyches that I've done at least)
I would have to say that 2c-i is a better drug though.

You couldn't really pretend to be sober on either, though.
 
I found 2C-E pretty neutral like milligrams said above, but that doesn't preclude it from digging up otherwise undesirable material from one's unconscious mind. You'll still have to deal with what gets uncovered, but on 2C-E you might find yourself in a detached headspace suitable for analyzing such things.

Also not to state the obvious or anything, but dissociatives have always been pretty null in the emotion department for me.
 
ikkyu said:
I found 2C-E pretty neutral like milligrams said above, but that doesn't preclude it from digging up otherwise undesirable material from one's unconscious mind. You'll still have to deal with what gets uncovered, but on 2C-E you might find yourself in a detached headspace suitable for analyzing such things.
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I feel the same way



also oxycodone or another other opiete with mushrooms will take away from the anxiety/paranoia and make you relaxed and chilled out
 
I think the fact that you are trying to avoid such experiences suggests that it is imperative that you face them head-on and seek to resolve the underlying issues. all psychedelics have an inherent tendency to drag up exactly what you're trying not to think about, don't think about a pink elephant style.
 
i would say every psychedelic i've tried, including weed, have the capability to enhance emotional states incredibly. just the other day i was surprised by 4mg 2ci's ability to take a minor annoyance into a full-blown high-energy bad day, while it normally makes me very euphoric.

why would you want to mute emotions for a purely visual experience? you can get that by just putting on a screensaver. your human consciousness is a precious gift.
 
I don't think there are any psychedelics that don't heighten your emotions really, however if anxiety is what you're worried about, a lot of the 2C-* chemicals that have very little mindfuck tend not to have much anxiety. For example last night I was tripping on 10mg 2C-E oral + 15mg 2C-E nasal and I was having a very intense trip but I could still communicate and act sober with little trouble - at times I was worried I'd act high but in the end I didn't.
 
When I read the thread title, 2C-E immediately came to mind!
2C-E is very easy on the ol' emotions :) In fact I can't recall a single moment of headfuck whatsoever on the multiple times I've had it.

The only other 2C-x I've had is 2C-B and I didn't notice any mindfuck on that either, with a some notable euphoria. But that was many years ago.
 
while i know alot of people say that 2c-e is neutral but in my experience (and that of alot of erowid reports) the 2c-e experience can be very powerful.
I cannot imagine taking it in public.
For me the mental trip takes me just as far out as a high dose of LSD or mushrooms. Definately not A party drug, where as 2c-b or 2c-i surely can be.
 
2c-e and any 2c to be honest have all been powerful experiences at times for me. I don't think you could truly classify any of them as emotionless. I'm not sure such a drug really exists to be honest. Maybe if you are talking about low doses, but in reality it comes down to the person as that's where the emotions are bottled up in the first place, in the person not the pill.

With that said, you might want to try something like MDAI? That's a pretty subtle experience, with some very slight perceptual changes, some mood lifting, but without any kind of real overwhelming sense of intoxication? Altho I wouldn't term MDAI a psychedelic, but it still might fulfill some of what you are looking for in an experience...especially if yer smoking some weed too.
 
2C-E, although it can be in a way, DOB also but that one can be as well.
LSD is often quite clinical. Less emotional than mescaline, mescaline is wonderfully sensitive, and both are much less emotional than mushrooms which can just make your emotional responses go haywire.

2C-E is in my opinion the only one that is so very neutral, detached and distant but in the end all psychedelics can precipitate very heavy emotions given the right circumstances.

On the other hand, a thing like 2C-C is definitely quite emotional but I find it reliably sensitive and positive and too easy to be any scared of. This is coming from a seasoned tripper though so don't ever forget peoples frames of reference.

After reading your OP again, I would say that while 2C-E is the most neutral it is NOT fit for easygoing situations where you dont want to worry about dark thoughts.
2C-C even more than 2C-B is ideal for that, its tripping extra light. Diet tripping. Or tripping zero if you're a guy ;)

There are some nice tryptamines as well like some 4-AcO's but that is much more complex material even if it is calm and relaxed on the surface.
 
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milligrams said:
2c-e I think is the one most well known to be emotionally neutral/messes with your headspace the least (of the psyches that I've done at least).
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2c-E emotionally neutral? Really? It's probably the most emotionally devastating synth I've ever done. Please don't make the mistake of trying Ethyl in a social context. It is confrontational, intense and does not allow space for distraction.

I can't really think of a purely neutral synth; I can think of ones that are more thought/intellect centered rather than emotional (like psilacetan or miprocin) but I still wouldn't recommend those for a social context.

Perhaps 2c-I or 2c-B would be a better bet, as they leave your ego alone and are generally nonthreatening. Good ol' LSD still is entirely nonemotional and quite sociable for me.
 
It varies a lot from person to person, and pretty much any psychedelic will run some risk of dark/difficult aspects, anxiety, etc. That said, some compounds are definitely more prone to it than others. There are some compounds that are better places to start experimenting than others, but ultimately it's gonna take some trial and error on your part to find the right substance and dose to get the effects you want.

"What should I take" threads are not allowed so I'm not gonna tell you what to take but if I were you, I would read up on the various 2Cs. 2C-E and the 2C-T-s have more of a reputation for intensity in terms of breaking down the ego or stirring up emotion, but some of the other ones have a reputation of being very mild and forgiving and good social psychedelics. The only psychedelic I've taken at a concert is 2C-I and that went very well. 2C-C and 2C-D are also reputed to be good for social settings.

I find low doses of acid pretty social, but acid is a very powerful substance and you can never guarantee that even a small dose won't send you to some pretty ego-shattering places.
 
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