Opioids OC Addiction

[TheTuneOfTurbo]

Hello all, I'm brand spankin' new here but I've had a question I've been dying to ask and finally found the right spot to ask. I really like the honesty here when it comes to talking about things like addictions because at least you can get advice or information from someone with first hand experience.

Anyways just wondering to anyone who is addicted to OCs or has been. How many MGs of OC do you do a day? What is considered a "BAD" OC addiction? I've heard a lot of people say 100-120mg a day. Is a 140-240mg a day a "BAD" addiction. I mean don't get me wrong, ALL addictions are BAD addictions. I'm just trying to find out the severity. I take it the with-drawl symptoms a lot worse and longer with more usage. ANY information or advice on OC addiction/detoxing off OCs would be very helpful. (and yes I've already browsed a lot of have been getting information off the forum, but I finally decided to sign up and start posting as I'm finally comfortable enough to talk about issues like this.)

 

[Veritaz]

go see a doc and get some suboxones and fix urself up I guess, either that or taper.

 

[DynoSpec]

thats not a small one, but ive heard of much much bigger habits. i used to use 40-60mg of hydromorphone a day for 6 months and it was pretty crappy coming off, but i did it without any maitenance. if i was you, i would taper down a bit and then stop

welcome to BL

 

[TheTuneOfTurbo]

go see a doc and get some suboxones and fix urself up I guess, either that or taper.

Wish it were that simple, you know, no health insurance and don't make too much money. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to taper or if I should just suck it up and go through the withdrawals instead of stretching it out. But hopefully with some more browsing and reading in these forums I can make out a plan, stick with it, and beat this demon addiction.

 

[Inorganic]

If poppy pods were at all available right now, I'd recommend them as a detox from OC. You'd feel some pain, but it was for me a pretty mild landing. Good luck if you do try to kick.

 

[Moredopamine]

Poppy pods are available though.

 

[Moredopamine]

Also, the main opiates in poppy pods are morphine and codeine. I don't see what difference it makes if you withdrawal from morphine or oxycodone, except subtle differences in intensity and duration (both which would be increased in any scenario the longer you continue to use opioids).

Unless your aim is to save money in which case pods are far cheaper.


The best way to get off opioids is to take a (really) deep breath and cold turkey. You won't die.

 

[Law]

Anyways just wondering to anyone who is addicted to OCs or has been. How many MGs of OC do you do a day? What is considered a "BAD" OC addiction? I've heard a lot of people say 100-120mg a day. Is a 140-240mg a day a "BAD" addiction. I mean don't get me wrong, ALL addictions are BAD addictions. I'm just trying to find out the severity. I take it the with-drawl symptoms a lot worse and longer with more usage. ANY information or advice on OC addiction/detoxing off OCs would be very helpful. (and yes I've already browsed a lot of have been getting information off the forum, but I finally decided to sign up and start posting as I'm finally comfortable enough to talk about issues like this.)

First of all, welcome to Bluelight, bro. & now, I'll get into your post...

Your "140-200mg" a day habit is by no means "small." I mean, it's not huge either, but either way, it's going to suck coming off of, that's for sure. & as you've already said "any addiction is a bad addiction." But, your best bet would be to begin a taper. Depending on how much OC you have, you could do a quick taper, or a slow taper. The slower tape will have the least amount of pain, from my experience.

If you're maxing out at 200mg... do it this way:

200mg - two days.
150mg - three/four days.
100mg - three/four days.
etc.

Just dropping 50mgs every couple of days. Yeah, it WILL be uncomfortable, but not as bad as it would be just going cold turkey. I mean, you could go 20mgs every couple of days, or whatever you deem suitable for you. But a taper would be the BEST option, in my opinion/experience.

Before I replied, I saw that someone had suggested suboxone, which you replied you couldn't afford. & that's completely understandable. BUT, have you thought about using Methadone at all? I mean, it's pretty affordable, and in some states, they have government assisted MMT. It's not for everybody, but depending on YOUR situation, it COULD work out pretty well for you. You should at least look into it. Don't jump into it without and research or background info...

You should be well prepared for what you're getting yourself into, and what lies ahead. But, there are a LOT of benefits to being on MMT, so who knows. Either way, I wish you all of the best man. I hope shit works out well for you.

I almost forgot to add, if you want to taper and then jump off, or even if you're going to go cold turkey.. here are some medications that will help you out:

• Immodium.
• Benzo's. [but use sparingly, you don't want to fall into a benzo addiction.]
• Marijuana. - For some people, it helps. For others, not so much.
• Melatonin. - Doesn't work for some people, but it works for others. It helped me out a lot.

Anyways, hope all goes well brah!

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Formerly known as: Snugg.


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Now playing: Mac Lethal - Lithium Lips
via FoxyTunes

 

[TheTuneOfTurbo]

GREAT information Law! I really appreciate the time you took to read and reply to my post. When I was at my worst (as in how many MGs I'd do a day) I was doing anywhere from 3-7 eighties a day, but I had only been doing them daily for right around a year or so...anyways. I had to go on a trip to Vegas and in such a hurry I didn't even think about having withdrawals in Vegas because I was used to having a steady supply. I felt like shit for 5 days but I still was able to function. I've been wondering how similar the withdrawal symptoms would be to then, I don't do as much as I did then but I've been doing it for about a year straight longer and not every day.

I have definitely thought and tried to take the methadone route and that's what I've been planning tapering off of. I've never really heard of tapering or any other options for get off the opiods other then detox/rehab/cold turkey until I did some researching online, and then found this forum. I've taken methadone before and two 10mg can subdue me for a day or almost 2. My plan was to take 2 methadone 10mgs every other day for 2 weeks (and xanax/marijuana if I couldn't sleep/eat) and then just stop and do the rest of the withdrawal cold turkey and hope that it would be tolerable where I could still work (from home). I'm just not sure how tolerant I would become to the methadone and if my plan would work because in my head it just seemed to easy. Anyways, BIG thanks for the response and info!

-Turbo

 

[Provoke]

First of all, welcome to Bluelight, bro. & now, I'll get into your post...

Your "140-200mg" a day habit is by no means "small." I mean, it's not huge either, but either way, it's going to suck coming off of, that's for sure. & as you've already said "any addiction is a bad addiction." But, your best bet would be to begin a taper. Depending on how much OC you have, you could do a quick taper, or a slow taper. The slower tape will have the least amount of pain, from my experience.

If you're maxing out at 200mg... do it this way:

200mg - two days.
150mg - three/four days.
100mg - three/four days.
etc.

Just dropping 50mgs every couple of days. Yeah, it WILL be uncomfortable, but not as bad as it would be just going cold turkey. I mean, you could go 20mgs every couple of days, or whatever you deem suitable for you. But a taper would be the BEST option, in my opinion/experience.

Before I replied, I saw that someone had suggested suboxone, which you replied you couldn't afford. & that's completely understandable. BUT, have you thought about using Methadone at all? I mean, it's pretty affordable, and in some states, they have government assisted MMT. It's not for everybody, but depending on YOUR situation, it COULD work out pretty well for you. You should at least look into it. Don't jump into it without and research or background info...

You should be well prepared for what you're getting yourself into, and what lies ahead. But, there are a LOT of benefits to being on MMT, so who knows. Either way, I wish you all of the best man. I hope shit works out well for you.

I almost forgot to add, if you want to taper and then jump off, or even if you're going to go cold turkey.. here are some medications that will help you out:

• Immodium.
• Benzo's. [but use sparingly, you don't want to fall into a benzo addiction.]
• Marijuana. - For some people, it helps. For others, not so much.
• Melatonin. - Doesn't work for some people, but it works for others. It helped me out a lot.

Anyways, hope all goes well brah!

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Formerly known as: Snugg.


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Now playing: Mac Lethal - Lithium Lips
via FoxyTunes

You forgot to mention deadly. Methadone is tough to understand...how can one master the use of a drug that is still present in your body in fair amounts one week after you took it? Careful with that.

 

[Hewo]

its only deadly if he abuses it he is trying to wean off as long as he dosent take huge doses day after day he isnt gunna die you cant just say a drug is deadly cause it has a long half life that just means he can take it farther and farther apart then a drug that only stays with you for 12-24 hours