Question regarding Datura

[:{ d. }:]

What a mountain of joy. I just found an entire fucking garden of Datura plants growing in front of my neighbors yard 1 minute away.

:D

 

[Aloysius]

i would like to point out something somewhat related to this thread, a friend has at one point experimented with augmenting a 2C-halogen trip by intake of datura. he reported taking one seed some time before dosing, it killed the nausea he experiences on coming up, but altered his trip significantly. also, rather crappy eye dilation lasting into the next day (i think it was -B he used).

one seed, lotsa annoying eye dilation the next day. i'll stay away from datura myself, thank you. i don't really have trouble with nausea on psychedelics anyway. but each to their own...

 

[phatass]

the problem with datura is that the potency of the seeds or leaf can vary hugely from plant to plant and from seed to seed... and the line between delirium and Overdose is quite tricky.... just be cautious

 

[CatfishRivers]

The one seed thing seems a bit suspect to me. One seed isn't going to be all too potent unless it's a freak of nature. I'm going to try this out soon and report back. Sounds more of an issue of personal sensitivity to me, but we'll see how I react to it. Do you know what kind of datura seed was used? What was the 2c dose?

 

[Aloysius]

The one seed thing seems a bit suspect to me. One seed isn't going to be all too potent unless it's a freak of nature. I'm going to try this out soon and report back. Sounds more of an issue of personal sensitivity to me, but we'll see how I react to it. Do you know what kind of datura seed was used? What was the 2c dose?

i will ask the guy, specifically about in what way his trip was changed, as i cannot remember the specifics, and now im getting kinda curious myself

EDIT: well you can always count on psychedelic users to blabber endlessly about their experiences (this includes me), i found a written report, in dutch..

he took 30 mg of 2C-C and 30 mg of 2C-B, and one seed. i will have to ask if you want to know about the strain (assuming there are different strains, i know nothing about datura). he felt zero nausea, the trip felt less lucid and more euphoric. also, he felt hot. he himself suggest possible placebo effects involved in taking a drug with such a bad reputation...

for further giggles, google translation:

Well, now 1 seed, 2C-C 30 mg, 30 mg of 2C-B and a further joint motion (3 hours ago, look, I can correctly played ), And it really helped against the nausea. Usually I was already over my head 10 times before, and that did not happen. It gives it a creepy feeling, especially in the beginning because it is new and such a dark reputation. No idea whether it's placebo, but it seems as if the whole nature of the 2C's it going out. Roesachtiger, euforischer, hotter. Look in the mirror is confrontational but more fun than usual. Later, I still have quite driving, hihi

ps I would really just have to know, but how far are very small doses of nicotine + tropaanalkaloiden to do? Pulse just seemed a little high. Otherwise I'll go smoke butts phantom

 

[Dr Mamba]

Datura is a weed that grow everywere in the world, usualy in town were the grownd have been move like in demolition sites.
2 seeds is a very handy medicals to stop nausea and transport illness.
But as the others said, its a very dangerous stuff to trip with, du to dosage and personnal sensibility.
The effects are like those you decride with diphenhydramine with huge pulpils and the most dry mouth you'll ever had, very very painfull.
Not worth the fun off hearing voices at all, beside the lethal risque.
Try anal ayahushka if you want to lesser the nausea, or elimine the tanins of the soup with gelatin, or precipite the alcaloides with a base and eat them.

 

[:{ d. }:]

Alright, so I went out and picked some datura and boiled a tea utilizing:

1 full flower
The leaves (3 medium-sized and a few small ones)
The stalk

Boiled everything in a pot with about 2 cups of water until the amount of water went down to about 1 inch high. Added 1 bag of Lipton Tea, poured in a cup, added some sugar and am sipping it at the moment. It's only been 5 minutes and I feel an odd feeling - whenever my mother says something to me it's as though it surprises me when it shouldn't.

 

[CatfishRivers]

I hope you got someone sitting for you. Good luck.

 

[:{ d. }:]

Feeling.. so.. fucked up

 

[organicmusic]

Let us know how it goes. Wish you luck.

 

[:{ d. }:]

Fortunately I didn't go batshit insane. However, I woke up in the middle of the night (fell asleep 5-6 hours in) and for some reason wanted to turn my TV on, chose a different video mode which left the entire TV screen blue in which I proceeded to become deathly afraid of the TV and couldnt turn it off for 10 minutes o_o; I also ended up replacing my pillow with my remote control. -_-

Going to give myself a week-long break before I try this tea again, though I'm going to try and do it early in the morning and a bit higher dosage.

 

[Visitor Q]

Well, on one hand, ive seen people take 20+ and not trip at all, and on the other, ive heard of people tripping hard for DAYS off two. as far as reducing the nausea with a huasca combo, that makes absolutely no sense to me, since Ayahuasca is basically guaranteed to make you puke.

When I tried it (was young and foolish), I infused 75-80 seeds and drank the stuff with the ground seeds. I experienced a mildly "detached" state where I felt I was floating a bit and some dry mouth, but no delirium, no hallucinations, just a sense of "strange".

A couple days later, I ate 30 seeds before going to sleep and experienced wildly vivid dreams, but nothing left when I woke up.

Honestly, I highly doubt that 2 seeds would produce effects other than placebo... I understand the variation of alkaloid content from one plant to the other, but 2 seeds is ridiculously small and will not be psychoactive IMO.
I'm not saying that there is a safe dosage though.

A couple of people I know have dipped into Datura in the 100 - 150 seed range and they tripped balls. But they ALL said that it was very unpleasant and that they swore to never go back to it...

(Side note: I once gave 5-6 seeds to my girlfriend as a natural antihistamine as she was experiencing allergy symptoms. Didn't work all that well but she sure didn't trip either...)

 

[CatfishRivers]

^ 2 seeds does have an effect, albeit a light one, but definitely detectable if you have any sensitivity at all towards feeling the subtle end of things. Some people just don't register the effects of things until it reaches a certain threshold, but others can detect the effects at much lower dosages. I know I can feel the effects of 2-3 seeds of datura stramonium. It's not powerful by any means at that dosage, but I feel a slight stimulation, chest glow, mood lift and then tiredness. Not everything has to be a "trip" for effects to be detected.

 

[Visitor Q]

^ 2 seeds does have an effect, albeit a light one, but definitely detectable if you have any sensitivity at all towards feeling the subtle end of things. Some people just don't register the effects of things until it reaches a certain threshold, but others can detect the effects at much lower dosages. I know I can feel the effects of 2-3 seeds of datura stramonium. It's not powerful by any means at that dosage, but I feel a slight stimulation, chest glow, mood lift and then tiredness. Not everything has to be a "trip" for effects to be detected.

If the effects are really that mild, how can you be sure they are not psychosomatic? And yes, you may be extra-sensitive and detect micro-effects from micro-dosages of psychoactives, but can you really qualify these effects as "psychoactive" if they are below the threshold dose of a "trip"?

Once I drank carbonated water really fast and got the strangest head-rush; a sort of weird, not unpleasant light-headedness that lasted about 10 minutes.
So I could say I experienced "mild effects" from water and carbon dioxide. I still don't think that my beverage was psychoactive, I think for some unknown reason my body created these effects as a reaction to my fast drinking.

Sometimes if I eat a lot of good cheese, my mind gets a bit fuzzy for about a half a day. Kind of like the day after smoking some weed. Is cheese a drug?

Oh, here's the cheapest drug available, it's free: Lie down and flex all your muscles really hard for as long as you can, then get up really fast!
Kind of like nitrous. oh, and for great closed and open-eye visuals: close your eyes and press down on your eyeballs hard for about ten seconds, then release and open eyes: whoa!

 

[CatfishRivers]

I know because I've been at this type of thing for a long long time and am very aware of what goes into my body and the reactions my body has towards things. I know because I've repeated the experiment SEVERAL times with the same results each time, and with augmenting effects as I have increased the number of seeds with ensuing experiments and the effects have not changed much qualitatively except for the same set of effects becoming more pronounced.

It's called experience. I have it. Now go play with yer cheese balls and soda...

 

[:{ d. }:]

redemption

Methinks Datura has just become my newest ally.

About 5 leaves of datura stramonium leaf material was teared up and rolled in a gigantic blunt along with a dub of purple kush - 50/50 ratio - which I proceeded to take to the face out in my ally an hour or so ago.

What happened was me, sitting in the far back of my ally on a wooden block (the sidelight went out so it was complete and utter darkness) stuck in a psychedelic yet dissociative trance-state, listening to music (some ambient beats I made, some jazz noir Bohren Und Der Club of Gore) and being able to discern every instrument at once while at times completely forgetting I existed, where I was, who I was, what I was, and the general feeling of being trapped in and becoming a void. Insane CEV's were witnessed and when I went over into the open-eyed state everything was veiled in extreme visual snow and HD graphics and frequent overlapping of the left and right side of my vision. At times I felt an odd sensation of flight.. I was drowning in an ocean in my mind.

No adverse physical effects, no horrible cotton-mouth.

The feisty lady has redeemed herself.

 

[Visitor Q]

I know because I've been at this type of thing for a long long time and am very aware of what goes into my body and the reactions my body has towards things. I know because I've repeated the experiment SEVERAL times with the same results each time, and with augmenting effects as I have increased the number of seeds with ensuing experiments and the effects have not changed much qualitatively except for the same set of effects becoming more pronounced.

It's called experience. I have it. Now go play with yer cheese balls and soda...

You've repeated the experiment SEVERAL times with "the same results each time" ?... pretty impressive.

I consider myself to be pretty sensitive to psychedelics, having taken half-hits of weak blotter in the past and sensing a "something is not quite right" feeling but nothing which can be clearly identified.

Judging from my experiments with Datura and the feedback from trusted friends, no offense but I think this is BS. If I took 75 - 80 seeds and barely felt anything and my girlfriend took 6 and got nothing at all (she is also sensitive) you would have to be some kind of "Consciousness Superhero" to be able to detect the action of 2 seeds...

Anyone else here ever got high off 2 seeds of Datura?

 

[CatfishRivers]

You've repeated the experiment SEVERAL times with "the same results each time" ?... pretty impressive.

I consider myself to be pretty sensitive to psychedelics, having taken half-hits of weak blotter in the past and sensing a "something is not quite right" feeling but nothing which can be clearly identified.

Judging from my experiments with Datura and the feedback from trusted friends, no offense but I think this is BS. If I took 75 - 80 seeds and barely felt anything and my girlfriend took 6 and got nothing at all (she is also sensitive) you would have to be some kind of "Conscience Superhero" to be able to detect the action of 2 seeds...

Anyone else here ever got high off 2 seeds of Datura?

Dude why are you harping on it? I'm sorry that my nervous system reacts differently than yours. Please go relax and think about something happy.

Check over at dmt-nexus. There's several people who can also feel the effects of just a few seeds besides me.

And I said I felt effects from it, not that I got high. I can tell your mind has a hard time categorizing things along a spectrum and instead in your mind you either have to be high or not high, but trust me, I can feel the effects of 2 seeds and have taken notes on all my experiments with them.

Also, wtf is a "Conscience Superhero"? Does it mean I have a good conscience and always treat people right? lol nice try, you almost used the right word.

Now, if you can stop derailing this guy's thread that'd be awesome.

 

[danielf123]

man, if only u could get a hold of these pills called Belladona Alkaloids

there exactly what they sound like sir
there used for inigestion problems i think, i dont very well remember

the beautiful thing about them is that if your looking for a delrious trip, there wonderful because u can gauge the exact amount your taking via milligrams

another option, i hear belladona "cherrys" are very psychoactive, but also can be very deadly if you eat to many
the dose for them i belive is one or 2
another problem with datura is most people say they never hallucinate off of it
which of course is total bullshit, i just think they dont realize there hallucinating
Be careful with these plants man, they command the upmost respect or they will fucking beat it into you until you respect or fear them

id say aquire the flowers, i hear they are supposed to usually contain a fair amount of the alkaloids in them, and brew a couple of them into a tea and drink the tea, but be careful, drink like half a cup first, wait for it for about an hour or 2 and then decide if u want more.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HAVE A FUCKING TRIP SITTER THAT CAN HANDLE YOU
cuz seriously, u will need one, made the mistake of taking belladonna alkaloid pills instead of these muscle relaxnts i had once, and woah....just....3 days...i didnt trip balls, the balls fucking tripped me man....and the after effects.....well.....lets just put it like this, theres an entire week of my life that has been totally wiped clean from my memory
from what im told, i did lots of crazy shit, made no sense when i talked or anything

oh how i wish i knew what i experienced. all i know is theres this plastic thing in my bathtub i totally fucked up, went through peoples shit looking for something i called the interception device, and i dont even know what happened
1 thing i remember, i saw little people running around on the floor and a mumified cat and dragon fighting around the little people hahaha

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Catfish Rivers-What is a low dose of Datura seeds or smoking a leaf like with the effects?

I do not use Datura but I know people who have but it was during a legal Ayahuasca ceremony in a country where that is legal for religious ceremonies and it was part of the admixture and they were under the guidance of an Ayahuasquero.