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500 mg 4-aco-dmt

From my very limited knowledge 4-aco is quite forgiving physically and I don't know of any specific reason to fear an OD; that said, there's so little research especially at these doses that it's hard to say.

Hang in there, lilfoot, try to stay calm and remember that the world isn't over. Try to stay relaxed and wait it out, let the ER techs do their jobs and just focus on your health and safety. You can worry about the law and all that jazz once you're healthy and on your feet, there's nothing more important than your health.

Please do come back and let us know how everything turned out so we know you made it, and to serve as a warning to anyone who might intentionally try such a stupidly high dose. My thoughts are with you, please be safe.

Legally speaking - 4aco itself is unscheduled but it metabolizes into psilocin, which is scheduled. To be realistic you're probably looking at criminal charges if you live in an area where cops like to make drug busts, but they *could* find an excuse to look the other way since it wasn't illegal until you took it and metabolized it, which you did under duress and fear of the law. As I understand it, 4-aco-dmt becomes illegal when you ingest it with the intent of getting high, so maybe you could argue that A) your original purpose for having it was legitimate and there's no proof you intended to ingest it, and B) your choice to ingest it at the scene was out of panic and duress because the cops were threatening you and you didn't want them to think it was cocaine or something. I'm not a lawyer so PLEASE speak to someone who is before putting together a legal defense but it seems like you can make a case that since the only time you ingested it was under duress, there may be a legal defense to be made if they press charges.
 
I don't think he got busted, because he swallowed it. I hope so anyway, because otherwise the swallowing was for nothing!

I'm guessing you'll be fine. But I definitely hope you called the ambulance... it's a shame because now there will an ER visit on record for 4-AcO-DMT. :\ But at least it was because of an obscene dosage, and likely you'll be totally fine.
 
OP should be in for a ridiculously strong trip, but will probably live. I suspect HPPD will be a problem, but i do not think physical safety is an issue.
 
Hang in there man, hopefully the bag has provided an extended release effect. I hope to see another post from you in the days ahead.

Good luck man.
 
Ouch, thats gotta be an outthere trip...

I just hope the OP is alright, and comes back with a lesson to teach. 500mg sounds like an awful lot...

One should always be careful with what chemicals they carry. If given the same choice, i would just let the police have it than rather than risk something damaging to my brain (even if it were illegal and would mean fines/time).
 
hey guys, just got back from my friend's place. as you can probably imagine i'm tired as fuck right now, and although i'm in a relatively clear headspace atm (compared to earlier at least) the visuals are still swarming. i have a feeling that it's going to take a LONG time for these to dissipate.

however, i just wanted to report back and say that according to my friend my blood pressure and heart rate remained completely stable every second i was under, and that the doctor in the ER told him that i was perfectly okay, besides the fact that i was almost completely unresponsive for around 7 hours. they didn't even give me a benzo, which i'm thankful for in a way.

i will try to write a more complete trip report once my head's a little bit more sorted, but really there's not much to say. only when i posted here was i feeling the slightest bit of anxiety, and once my friend picked me up i was already sinking into the calmest, slowest, lightest and deepest space i've ever felt. i have never felt more safe in my entire life.

please don't take this as me encouraging anyone else to try and recreate what happened to me; this could have turned out horribly, and instead of laying in my bed right now i could be laying in a morgue. but i'm not, for whatever reason, and i felt like i was given a gift today that nobody will ever be able to take from me. i experienced things that are personal beyond what i ever knew personal could mean. i think i expected a feeling of just exploding outward into the universe in billions of pieces, but instead it was like my soul was suddenly stripped bare and then wrapped thousands of times over, tighter and tighter with every pass. i could try to explain to you guys what i felt and saw but it would be pointless. how do i explain staring at a physical manifestation of my own grief, diving into it, living a life inside it and dying only to realize that i'm just waking from one lucid dream into another? every part of my soul is still aching from what i experienced, but there wasn't a single moment where i felt threatened or confronted with something that i was unable to accept.

the best way i can think of to describe it all is that i experienced flowing from a pond to a stream to a lake to a river to a waterfall to a canyon to an ocean. it was all just exactly the way it was supposed to be, and then it just stopped being.

the weirdest part of it all, though, is how suddenly i felt sober mentally once it let up. it was like i skydived out of infinity and was back to reality in fractions of a moment. i've never felt such a sudden and intense comedown in my life, and it makes me wonder what the hell is going on chemically that could create that sort of nearly instant dramatic shift. idk! too tired to speculate much more...

anyways, im still a little far out as you can prolly tell from how long i've just been rambling eh? i just wanted to let you guys all know that i'm fine and that this has been one of the hugest, most difficult learning experiences of my life. i wanna thank you guys for being so concerned, this really is an awesome community. will talk more later, peace, gnite
 

whoa... dude. glad you seem to have survived the acute pharmacological phase, and even came out pretty okay!

enjoy your rest, be sure to take care of your body :)

i was apprehensively checking out this topic... super glad you are doing fine!

lots of love! :)
 
That's absolutely incredible. A wonderful story, and I'm so pleased everything has turned out ok for you.

I'm sure you'll be piecing reality back together for a while yet, but when you can, be sure to add a trip report to erowid too. This is really unchartered territory, so anything anyone can add is brilliant.

Keep us updated with your comedown/afterglow effects won't you?

:)
 
So, apparently the LD50 for psilacetin is ridiculously frikkin high. It really is converted into psilocin then, no doubt about it anymore I guess. I had read a 100mg trip report and thought that guy was a hero. I wonder what I'll go through when I break the 20mg barrier.

Thanks for such a nice response. Sorry you felt you had to go to the ER though.
 
So glad you're doing okay! I knew you'd be okay and if anyting were going to have a hell of a time. Sounds like you did :). By going through that massive of a dose I imagine you did quite a good thing for the rest of the community, thankfully you didn't fond out what the LD50 was for this. Don't want to sound like an asshole, but you did great by doing that. I really look forward to reading your trip report.

Next time, toss the bag!

Much love, rest well.
 
Wow. Glad you made it thru. I read this last night and said some prayers for you. Your description of it all so far has been amazing to read. I'm eager to read anything else you can share. So happy everything seems to have worked out ok. Peace!
 
lilfoot said:
the weirdest part of it all, though, is how suddenly i felt sober mentally once it let up. it was like i skydived out of infinity and was back to reality in fractions of a moment. i've never felt such a sudden and intense comedown in my life, and it makes me wonder what the hell is going on chemically that could create that sort of nearly instant dramatic shift. idk! too tired to speculate much more...
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I've experienced that with Ayahuasca and shrooms (every time), so I'm not surprised.

Glad to see you're alright :).
 
StingRei said:
So, apparently the LD50 for psilacetin is ridiculously frikkin high.
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There is not way we can deduce the "LD50", because the OP might simply be one of the other "50" at 500mg.

It really is converted into psilocin then, no doubt about it anymore I guess.
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There is no way we can deduce that either from this thread. Why is it impossible to imagine that 4-AcO-DMT is safe in its own right?

I had read a 100mg trip report and thought that guy was a hero.
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That's not heroic, that's stupid. Less stupid than the OP, but still stupid.
 
Jeez man that really really sucks... If you had no other drugs on you it would have been completely fine. Plus if it was not prepared for human consumption it is completely legal.
I really hope that you are ok. I am sending good vibes your way :D
 
Glad to hear your ok, sounds like you made the best out of a bad experience, good for you. Just hope you don't have any trouble with HPPD.
 
Strange how you could type so coherently whilst tripping on 500mg of 4-aco-DMT, eh. Surprised nobody else noticed this...
 
i had a feeling you'd be fine.

you sound in good spirits today so thats good.
i look forward to reading a more complete write up of the experience if you get a chance.
Though i could understand if you dont, as an experience like that would be quite hard to put into words.
 
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