as long as you get the legit stuff its good.. actually its amazing.. im on probation so cant smoke the real shyt and this stuff deff does it for me, i love serenity now (most fav. is blueberry) let me know if you want to buy some online i got a coupon for next purchase
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[Mega]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion
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Chainer
Bluelighter
I've got a question for some of you regular JWH-018 users out there.
I recently received a gram of what was labeled JWH-018, yet it seems to not be "highly" active at such low doses -- Ie: it takes about 15mg to get me very baked. Between 5 heads, we were able to smoke 70mg each throughout the day (keep in mind, we were constantly stoned). Obviously this is rather "fiendish," as the effects seem to last 2 hours. We are regular smokers (smoke about 3 blunts of headies a day), so I assume there is some natural cannabis tolerance in effect here.
The "JWH-018" is very white, fluffy, and vapes fine. In a well-constructed home made vape, it leaves a VERY small blotch of brown in a puddle of clear, water looking liquid which completely evaporates after a second vaping. Even 10-15mg doesn't seem to have any effect while vaped in this fashion -- which is odd, because it would work fine on plant matter in a bowl. I am not getting the JWH from one of those google advertisement shops -- those are mostly scams or sell yellow-brown-red product (visually 87% or less).
I have two questions: A) Is this is line with something like JWH-200 or JWH-073? The effects are still amazing, yet I need to smoke MUCH more than 4mg in order to get a high going. That said, if I smoke ~20mg, I feel as if I coming up on acid for a few minutes (I also feel no paranoia, but a rush of energy followed by an extreme trippy and couch look feeling). I've been smoking it off of pipe tabacco and keeping the flame far away. I'm starting to venture a guess that this is relatively pure 073 sold as 018 (for the price I paid though, that is fine with me) -- would those with experience agree?
B) Is it possible I have a cut product? Those with more experience with 018, 073, and 250 and KNOW they have had 97% pure or higher, let me know if this is inline with your experience. It vapes rather clean and is of good visual quality -- So I'm starting to think I was accidently given 073 instead of 018.
I recently received a gram of what was labeled JWH-018, yet it seems to not be "highly" active at such low doses -- Ie: it takes about 15mg to get me very baked. Between 5 heads, we were able to smoke 70mg each throughout the day (keep in mind, we were constantly stoned). Obviously this is rather "fiendish," as the effects seem to last 2 hours. We are regular smokers (smoke about 3 blunts of headies a day), so I assume there is some natural cannabis tolerance in effect here.
The "JWH-018" is very white, fluffy, and vapes fine. In a well-constructed home made vape, it leaves a VERY small blotch of brown in a puddle of clear, water looking liquid which completely evaporates after a second vaping. Even 10-15mg doesn't seem to have any effect while vaped in this fashion -- which is odd, because it would work fine on plant matter in a bowl. I am not getting the JWH from one of those google advertisement shops -- those are mostly scams or sell yellow-brown-red product (visually 87% or less).
I have two questions: A) Is this is line with something like JWH-200 or JWH-073? The effects are still amazing, yet I need to smoke MUCH more than 4mg in order to get a high going. That said, if I smoke ~20mg, I feel as if I coming up on acid for a few minutes (I also feel no paranoia, but a rush of energy followed by an extreme trippy and couch look feeling). I've been smoking it off of pipe tabacco and keeping the flame far away. I'm starting to venture a guess that this is relatively pure 073 sold as 018 (for the price I paid though, that is fine with me) -- would those with experience agree?
B) Is it possible I have a cut product? Those with more experience with 018, 073, and 250 and KNOW they have had 97% pure or higher, let me know if this is inline with your experience. It vapes rather clean and is of good visual quality -- So I'm starting to think I was accidently given 073 instead of 018.
tattooblake81
Greenlighter
ok i have figured out what reality jwh-018 opens and how to harness it i need to find more people who understand this,,,,,who understand timothy learys game of life,,,,,,,, this is a key before anyone warns me trust me i have extreme mental disipline and know full well of my mind and bodies limits,,,lsd was my realm,,,i have some psychological reports i will be putting up soon from different subjects who were willing not paid!!!if u r a thinker very intune with ur surroundings,say u have dreams where its like real life,,u can see the future in ur own way,,,ur gut feeling has never been wrong,,,u need to contact me i know a few of u will cause u r drawn to this u can see my aurua projected into this mesage,,,,,,,,,WARNING BE EXTREMLY CAREFUL WITH THIS IT IS FOOLISH NOT TO SELL IT FOR WHAT IT IS PURE JWH-018 IF U SAY ITS SO SO THEN FUCK NO U DID NOT GET PURE....I WAS SCARED OF A LARGE DOSE BUT HAD TO I TOOK APPROX 100MG,,,,,,,,,,I HAD NO IDEA WHAT FUCKING DIMENSION I WAS IN LITERALLY,,,,,,it has gotten everyone twisted who underestimated it,,,except one,,,she claimed to feel a slight change from 10 mg>>>>>>>>>>1 mg is more than enough if u put it in the end of a ciggerete then light and inhale deep,,,vape is a waste its evaporation point is extremly quick!!!!!MAKE ABSOLUTLY SURE TO BE SAFE!
I had always gotten the white fluffy. One batch from another vendor, 018 was a slight tan and more granual. Heavier by weight volume.
018 i will not buy anymore
Gives anxiety when doses are not properly measured out.
WIN 55 is nice. Though the vendor was getting was expensive and actually like 250 over 55.
Have not tried it with a vape but do mix it with tobacco(roll your owns) and a non synthetic containing blend a friend procured for me to mix it with.
Yes be safe
No body likes impurities!
018 i will not buy anymore
Gives anxiety when doses are not properly measured out.
WIN 55 is nice. Though the vendor was getting was expensive and actually like 250 over 55.
Have not tried it with a vape but do mix it with tobacco(roll your owns) and a non synthetic containing blend a friend procured for me to mix it with.
Yes be safe
No body likes impurities!
33Hz
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Seems like you used the same vendor as me. The first batch I got was white and fluffy. The second was quite granular, but still very white. Is this a sign of impurities?
Chainer
Bluelighter
^ Perhaps, not not a positive indicator of one. If it vapes at the same active amount and is pure white, you are good. In Rock form, it can take on a yellowish tinge, but once sharded, should look crystal white.
Stop doing drugs bro
Stop doing drugs bro
stonedandrolling89
Bluelighter
^lawlz, 
chainer.
i picked up a new blend tonight called Stash. the guy at the shop told me they had just got it in and i was given a good price.
it's got a very nice cerebral high and it's very smooth. not bad at all.
chainer.i picked up a new blend tonight called Stash. the guy at the shop told me they had just got it in and i was given a good price.
it's got a very nice cerebral high and it's very smooth. not bad at all.
Chainer
Bluelighter
Just wanted to report after a 5 day, 1 gram JWH-073 binge, I can only report cocaine like fiend side effects, and an extreme urge to sleep 2 hours later which is resolved by reapplication of the drug (hence the coke-iness of the drug).
Thus far, no headaches or paranoia to report, nor phantom pain. I also take valium daily. Only one person has complained of paranoia (thought he needed to focus on breathing deep -- however after I told him paranoia of that sort is common, it ceased).
One day clean from everything illegal or "grey area". Will keep this updated as I think we need someone to keep progress of this stuff.
I just keep thinking about how I have a 10% chance of this stuff coming in he mail.
If anyone else is starting to smoke any JWH substance of any kind, and has had their vendor provide lab evidence or a pure looking/vaping product, please keep a log of side effects or lack thereof. The information posted here is valuable to many, many people, and can help with hard reduction in the future.
Will report on how making 500mg of 073 in 5G of Mullien, Raspberry leaves, and Passonfollow turns out. Thus far, a meth pipe is the best method if you have very clean product (nearly no vendor has 99.97% pure, no matter what they tell you. And if they do, consider myself jealous).
Moderation seems to be more important with this than with weed. Keep benzos or sleeping pills on hand for the minor W/Ds (difficulty sleeping or increased anxiety).
Thus far, no headaches or paranoia to report, nor phantom pain. I also take valium daily. Only one person has complained of paranoia (thought he needed to focus on breathing deep -- however after I told him paranoia of that sort is common, it ceased).
One day clean from everything illegal or "grey area". Will keep this updated as I think we need someone to keep progress of this stuff.
I just keep thinking about how I have a 10% chance of this stuff coming in he mail.
If anyone else is starting to smoke any JWH substance of any kind, and has had their vendor provide lab evidence or a pure looking/vaping product, please keep a log of side effects or lack thereof. The information posted here is valuable to many, many people, and can help with hard reduction in the future.
Will report on how making 500mg of 073 in 5G of Mullien, Raspberry leaves, and Passonfollow turns out. Thus far, a meth pipe is the best method if you have very clean product (nearly no vendor has 99.97% pure, no matter what they tell you. And if they do, consider myself jealous).
Moderation seems to be more important with this than with weed. Keep benzos or sleeping pills on hand for the minor W/Ds (difficulty sleeping or increased anxiety).
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
^What do you mean? I've bought multiple grams from multiple suppliers. I've never noticed any side effects although I don't have a constant supply of it i'm sure I smoke more of it than the majority. I haven't seen beige 018 since October since then its been consistently white and fluffy. Obviously sometimes certain batches are higher quality but not by a serious amount. Now for the real reason I came in here. I saw one trial of SR-18 but no dosage, effects, etc. Does anyone have that information?
mecaib
Bluelighter
There's some bad aluminum going around
I went to make myself a new aluminum bowl yesterday, got it just right and went to take the first toke... and the fricken thing melted! From the heat of an ordinary cigarette lighter! It didn't take long, either. Two heartbeats, max. After seeing this I immediately blew out the hit and went to find sulfur-containing foods to flush out the aluminum, in case some was vaporized and absorbed into my body. I guess I need to find a real meth pipe now
Just thought I'd warn those of you who are still using aluminum.
I went to make myself a new aluminum bowl yesterday, got it just right and went to take the first toke... and the fricken thing melted! From the heat of an ordinary cigarette lighter! It didn't take long, either. Two heartbeats, max. After seeing this I immediately blew out the hit and went to find sulfur-containing foods to flush out the aluminum, in case some was vaporized and absorbed into my body. I guess I need to find a real meth pipe now
Just thought I'd warn those of you who are still using aluminum.
stonedandrolling89
Bluelighter
^ i lol'd at the title of that post. i'm sorry for your negative experience.
and chainer, i had a blend a couple of weeks ago that was like that. i would smoke, come up in ~10 minutes, be high for a good two hours, and then have the biggest urge to sleep unless i smoked more.
and chainer, i had a blend a couple of weeks ago that was like that. i would smoke, come up in ~10 minutes, be high for a good two hours, and then have the biggest urge to sleep unless i smoked more.
Chainer
Bluelighter
I didn't notice that, I'm laughing my ass off now thats classic.
Personally, I have seen cut product (flower or baking soda - simple to test for at home), as well as poorly syth'd JWH (Orange/ Dark hue). 99% of what I get is certainly above 96% pure, however.
People ordering from the Google Advertised sites (you know which I am talking about) are getting 86% pure product, which should NEVER be smoked, eaten, or vaped. All these companies are owned by the same overseas mothership company. The side effects from cut JWH could be limitless, and it wouldn't be due to the JWH, it would be due to outside variables and contaminates. That is why I ask people to document the purity of their substance.
This is also one of the biggest issues I have with BL's sourcing policy. It's to bad we do not have a venue where we can list vendors that are NOT TO BE TRUSTED, rather than good sources -- but I understand the reason we cannot do that too. In the sake of harm reduction, I ask the people experiencing heavy side effects to describe their product, that's all.
I'm simply trying to get better documentation on this drug, as Bluelight seems to be one of the leading sites at the moment for unofficial use and reports.
I have experienced no side effects on day 2 of stopping cold turkey, other than wanting more! Much the same as running out of your weed stash, and wanting to buy another bag.
I have noticed mood enhancement the following day after use, though I believe this to be placebo or due to nice weather, so that can be disregarded.
Regardless, I have several grams of each verity coming in today, and will update typical daily use and *if* any side effects occur.
mecaib
Bluelighter
Thanks, I don't think I received a toxic dose. And yeah, the title. Since when is the Evil White Metal good?
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
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mecaib
Bluelighter
It's not a placebo for me. I'm on mirtazapine and lamotrigine, which are fine for leveling out my mood, but not so great for raising the level above the water, so-to-speak. 018 has had a wonderful impact on my mood, making me feel right as rain without sending me into a manic episode. I've been toking three times a day, every day for months now. If it was going to make me manic, it would have done so long ago, since I cycle quickly.
Chainer
Bluelighter
it is soluable. Use 100% acetone -- NO OTHER INGREDIATES. If it says something like Acetone, Denaturing / Denatured, you cannot use it.
It is more soluble than you would ever need it to be. Synthetic cannabinoids in general are almost universally of similar ridiculously high solubility in acetone. Double-digit mg per drop soluble. I've never tried to find it out numerically - but it would be easy enough to do.
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Chainer
Bluelighter
I used 6ml for 1 gram of 018 mixed with 073. Dissolved instantly. Spray bottle for application - make sure it is acetone safe.
May post up guide later.
May post up guide later.
Cheers guys, so 50ml will be plenty. I'll probably use 10ml of acetone and 500mg of JWH-073 so I get 5mg per 0.1ml. I'll be using 99.5% pure acetone so no issues with purity. Probably give the 073 a wash in some methanol as well to remove impurities before dissolving it in the acetone.
Chainer
Bluelighter
methanol will leave impurities -- the acetone and JWH are the only 2 things you want being sprayed.