morning glory 2 questions

[curiosity]

ok so im trying morning glory tommorow or the day after and i was wondering what a good dose(in number of seeds approx.) would be to have some visuals and have a fairly strong high but at the same time something that isnt to overwhelming and ive also read that alot of people grind up the seeds and put them in food or drinks but i dont have anything to grind them up with so is their any method i could/should use to help me digest them faster/easier and for them to take effect faster and more efficiently

also i have had a few experiences with psychedelics shrooms once,salvia 6 times,2c substances twice and i smoke pot pretty often if any of those things could effect me already maybe having a tolerance of some sort

 

[Solipsis]

A user more experienced with morning glories should answer the quantity question but you could grind them by laying them between two hard surfaces and banging on it really hard? Get creative, but there are at least some tools needed to crack hundreds of those things...

 

[qwe]

ok so im trying morning glory tommorow or the day after and i was wondering what a good dose(in number of seeds approx.) would be to have some visuals and have a fairly strong high but at the same time something that isnt to overwhelming and ive also read that alot of people grind up the seeds and put them in food or drinks but i dont have anything to grind them up with so is their any method i could/should use to help me digest them faster/easier and for them to take effect faster and more efficiently

also i have had a few experiences with psychedelics shrooms once,salvia 6 times,2c substances twice and i smoke pot pretty often if any of those things could effect me already maybe having a tolerance of some sort

Light 50 - 100 seeds 1.5 - 3 g
Common 100 - 250 seeds 3 - 6 g
Strong 250 - 400 seeds 6 - 10 g
Heavy 400 + seeds 10 + g

400 seeds was the max i did. i got pleasant effects, it wasn't as much of a trip as shrooms but sometimes it can surprise you. it can be pretty euphoric and sometimes crazy trip stuff will happen

ive seen trip reports where people chewed the seeds but i couldn't imagine doing that. they taste insane, id rather munch on a bottle of foul tasting pills. if you have any cash i'd reccomend a grinder from walmart or something

there's not too much you can do about how bad it is. once i actually downed it with water, with a friend as an on the spot decision (careful with those on the spot decisions to use psych's lol). he got sick as hell. i nearly gagged but i have a stomach of steel and despite taking many drugs never puke. most get sick from morning glories and it often ruins their whole trip

so perhaps think about pepto bismol &/or benadryl

 

[curiosity]

400 seeds was the max i did. i got pleasant effects, it wasn't as much of a trip as shrooms but sometimes it can surprise you. it can be pretty euphoric and sometimes crazy trip stuff will happen

ive seen trip reports where people chewed the seeds but i couldn't imagine doing that. they taste insane, id rather munch on a bottle of foul tasting pills. if you have any cash i'd reccomend a grinder from walmart or something

there's not too much you can do about how bad it is. once i actually downed it with water, with a friend as an on the spot decision (careful with those on the spot decisions to use psych's lol). he got sick as hell. i nearly gagged but i have a stomach of steel and despite taking many drugs never puke. most get sick from morning glories and it often ruins their whole trip

so perhaps think about pepto bismol &/or benadryl

alright how much diphenhydramine should i take because i have sleep eze wich are 50mg diphenhydramine but that'll also make me kinna tired but i geuss its not really a big deal and what if i put it in icecream do you think that would work or would the taste of the seeds overpower it?

 

[curiosity]

A user more experienced with morning glories should answer the quantity question but you could grind them by laying them between two hard surfaces and banging on it really hard? Get creative, but there are at least some tools needed to crack hundreds of those things...

yeah this is probably what ill do since i cant think of anything else or i could put them in a bag in a bag in another bag and hammer them maybe and hope all 3 bags dont break? but either way id need to find sopmethoing to hammer them with i dont even think i have a hammer here :S maybe spoon will work thats what i used to use to crush pills

 

[vegan]

i don't know about lower doses cause i only took them once (800s = 20g)
but i was quite sick the next day
maybe you should plan not to have anything important to do in the next 24h, in case

the experience however was great and without any sickness. it only started after.
a bit overwhelming physically ; too much physical pleasure

grinded them the hard way, with my teeth. not the better taste
smash them with any hard object you have
or just buy a pepper grinder or borrow a blender from your friend

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

Mgs

ok so im trying morning glory tommorow or the day after and i was wondering what a good dose(in number of seeds approx.) would be to have some visuals and have a fairly strong high but at the same time something that isnt to overwhelming and ive also read that alot of people grind up the seeds and put them in food or drinks but i dont have anything to grind them up with so is their any method i could/should use to help me digest them faster/easier and for them to take effect faster and more efficiently

also i have had a few experiences with psychedelics shrooms once,salvia 6 times,2c substances twice and i smoke pot pretty often if any of those things could effect me already maybe having a tolerance of some sort

You are more likely to have overwhelming effects than 'visuals', seems to me your planning on taking the wrong drug for the wrong reasons. To make your trip easier on the body, why not wait that extra couple of days and perform A cold water extraction? theres A good post on Erowid.org. Also, make sure you remove the hard shell if you have purchased from A store, never know what nasty pesticides could be lurking about... Peace

 

[bluemanthief]

OK im not sure if it would work...

But cant you just put the seeds in a strainer and rinse off the pesticides?

 

[rocker97x]

i always used 5-12 packs of Burpees heavenly blues. I think they have about a gram in each. The time I did 12 i got open eye visuals MUCH stronger than 2 hits of good acid

 

[greenmeanies]

hand-crushing (mortar and pestle, hammer, big stone etc) is the traditional method, and is very time-consuming and will give you a sore wrist.

chewing and swallowing is effective.

quickest is $10 coffee grinder like you get at Target.

a shaman will probably tell you to count them by hand in pairs (so you always end with an even number of seeds) and mash them by hand so you get to know the plant spirits well. as others have said, this sacrament is not for the weak of spirit.

 

[curiosity]

thanks for all the help but i did them yesterday already and just put them in pudding and ate it and it worked just fine and wasnt even that bad on my stomach >.> they didnt really effect me though for some reason and i ate 400

 

[alantis360]

600 seeds + mint extract from grocery store gave me visuals like an 8th of mushrooms

 

[curiosity]

600 seeds + mint extract from grocery store gave me visuals like an 8th of mushrooms

what does the mint extract do? and was it your first time?

 

[Solipsis]

thanks for all the help but i did them yesterday already and just put them in pudding and ate it and it worked just fine and wasnt even that bad on my stomach >.> they didnt really effect me though for some reason and i ate 400

Yeah if you leave them whole I don't think you can digest them, or at least not nearly good enough. Those bastads are hard!

I hope for you they won't destroy your a-hole if they come out unscathed.

 

[curiosity]

Yeah if you leave them whole I don't think you can digest them, or at least not nearly good enough. Those bastads are hard!

I hope for you they won't destroy your a-hole if they come out unscathed.

damn i didnt know seeds would stand a chance against stomach acids now im scared to go to the bathroom >.>

 

[Psychonautical]

i've consumed 1000 seeds before.
i watched little aztec looking visuals dance around the sun.
i shit like you would not believe...

In all honesty...
i've consumed 1200 seeds once at a party, and i was lucky that i did because everyone there was drinking and not paying attention to anything and i ended up going downstairs and finding one of their friends passed out in a back room face up with barf in mouth.
all while having wicked visuals and an insanely uncomfortable belly.

i felt like a psychedelic hero and i got upset with everyone there.
i screamed "you stupid drunks this guy could have died." he didn't respond to anything we did so we called 911.
I do feel like i actually saved someones life by not going with the ebb and flow of things lol.

I must have eaten morning glory seeds once a week about 3 summers ago.
They really helped rid me of my ketamine addiction

i would always grind them up in a coffee grinder and then add them to coffee.
Tasted pretty good slightly metallic overtones... but there was always TERRIBLE pooping that went along with it...

i remember once i had a terrible trip on 4HBWR seeds for whatever reason... this one song that played was absolutely terrible and it made me very depressed and then it didn't matter what i did i got so sad i had to start vomiting and once i did the world turned into this playground of slight miracles.

 

[alantis360]

what does the mint extract do? and was it your first time?

it wasnt my first time. Used 17 pack from wal-mart. Supposedly the mint extract has something in it that converts the lsa to lsh. I put like 5 "drops" under my tongue and at the seeds ground up in yogurt.

 

[curiosity]

i've consumed 1000 seeds before.
i watched little aztec looking visuals dance around the sun.
i shit like you would not believe...

In all honesty...
i've consumed 1200 seeds once at a party, and i was lucky that i did because everyone there was drinking and not paying attention to anything and i ended up going downstairs and finding one of their friends passed out in a back room face up with barf in mouth.
all while having wicked visuals and an insanely uncomfortable belly.

i felt like a psychedelic hero and i got upset with everyone there.
i screamed "you stupid drunks this guy could have died." he didn't respond to anything we did so we called 911.
I do feel like i actually saved someones life by not going with the ebb and flow of things lol.

I must have eaten morning glory seeds once a week about 3 summers ago.
They really helped rid me of my ketamine addiction

i would always grind them up in a coffee grinder and then add them to coffee.
Tasted pretty good slightly metallic overtones... but there was always TERRIBLE pooping that went along with it...

i remember once i had a terrible trip on 4HBWR seeds for whatever reason... this one song that played was absolutely terrible and it made me very depressed and then it didn't matter what i did i got so sad i had to start vomiting and once i did the world turned into this playground of slight miracles.

that all sounds very interesting do you think i would be capable of ingesting simmilair amounts of seeds myself if i were to try it again or was that only because you gained a tolerance?

 

[Zodiakk]

I've done LSA [Lysergic Acid Amides, the chemical in MG seeds] for about a year now.
I suggest you wait until you have the proper items to tripp, or don't tripp on them at all. I know it is tempting to just chew them up, but you will get an extreme stomach ache. I will simplify this technique:

You will need:
•500 Morning glory seeds
•Bottled Water
•Scissors/Knife
•A masonry jar
•A bowl [like what you eat cold cereal out of]
•A t-shirt

○Get about 500 seeds. Normally this is too many because they will give you a stomach ache, but you are going to work around that using a "CWE", or "Cold Water Extraction".
○Find a pepper crusher, or anything to grind the seeds. If they are not ground up, then the LSA will be stuck inside the seed, and it will leave your body before you can digest the outside of the seed.
○Put the seeds in a container with a large opening. The best thing to use is a glass masonry jar. Or a jar that holds jelly.
○Pour some bottled water[or water without chlorine] into the jar, then pour in the 500 crushed seeds.
○Shake the jar, and put it in the fridge. Some people say the freezer is better, but I don't like thawing it out.
○Here is the controversial part: Keep shaking it for 12-48 hours.
○Now put your t-shirt over the jar, and pour the liquid into a bowl. Throw away all plant matter that is left in the jar after you empty the liquid into the bowl.
○ Get any kind of oil out of the kitchen. Vegetable oil, or even the oil that comes in those cans of tuna. Just get some oil. Pour some in the jar, put the liquid back into the jar, and shake it up. Shake like hell. Shake it like a polaroid picture.
○ Now pour it into ziplock bag. Wait about 10 minutes, and the oil will float to the top, and your CWE will stay on the bottom. The oil now contains many of the chemicals that make you sick, making the 500 seed dosage safe.
○Use your scissors to cut a small hole in the bottom of the bag, just big enough to let the liquid leak out into your jar.

Now add lemon juice, or anything with citric acid.

Use it then or put it in the freezer and enjoy on a rainy day
I prefer to use 3000 seeds and make a fun gelatin desert for me and 5 friends. :D

 

[Zodiakk]

it wasnt my first time. Used 17 pack from wal-mart. Supposedly the mint extract has something in it that converts the lsa to lsh. I put like 5 "drops" under my tongue and at the seeds ground up in yogurt.

No, no, no. Mint extract is useful for extraction because it is 91% grain alcohol.

You are thinking of peppermint oil. Add 5 drops of peppermint oil right before ingesting a MG seed extraction. It will convert into LSH temporarily. If you don't use it right away, it will eventually turn back into LSA.