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4 aco and 2ce

yougeekay

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i already kno this is gonna be really fun (taking it with abunch of friends who are also taking one or the other or combining), but lemme hear your experiences if anyone has some.
 
Never tried the combo but I can see them complimenting each other really well.
IME 2c-e is more visual and 4-aco-dmt is more mental. Also I find that 4-aco is a little short and I am a bit disappointed when it ends, so the length of 2c-e should help with that.
What doses are you taking?
 
Never tried this particular combo but 2ce+dmt was a real treat and I've been meaning to try more 2ce+tryptamine combos. They seem like perfect combos - tryptamines are euphoric and 'adventurous' in the sense that they really keep your mind occupied, but the intensity at any given dose can vary wildly and sometimes I'm just sitting there wishing things would pick up. 2ce can be euphoric but can also have an uncomfortable body edge to it, and sometimes it leaves me feeling "all dressed up with no place to go," like I'm just on the cusp of some crazy intense peak experience that never actually comes. Based on that and my one DMT experience, it seems like they complement one another very well; the phenethylamines guarantee a good 'baseline' of already in an altered state and ready for a psychedelic adventure, with some stimulation to keep you going through the experience and added visual intensity to mix with the tryptamine visuals, then your tryptamine of choice can be the catalyst that really sends your mind off into hyperspace.



Not sure how much sense that'll make to anyone reading it, but since when has that stopped me? ;)
 
I definitely get more out of my experiences with 4-aco-dmt when i first take a 2c (or acid) first.

for me 4-aco-dmt on its own is a bit too much of a "wow I am tripping really hard but my body is so heavy i cant move" experience. I find that by taking a 2c or acid first, (about 2 hrs before the 4-aco-dmt (or det, or met) and then taking the 4-aco, I have way more energy, and the bodyload isnt an issue at all.


i havent done this specifically with 2c-e though and I would love to know the results.
I can only imagine with a good dose of each, timed right, it would be very intense.

good luck!!!
 
solistus....you have no idea how much your comments made perfect sense to me.

thanks
 
wow, this thread has got me really excited to try 2ci (I dont got no e) + 4 aco dmt. one question though; if I normally take 18mg 2ci and 25-30 mg 4 aco, should I take those same amounts or reduce them?
 
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ungelesene_bettlek said:
4-aco-what? shulgins nomenclature is already constructed in a way that makes it as short and non-reduundant as possible; if you abbreviate even further, you create confusion.
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This is a good point that someone should have mentioned. I assume he meants 4-AcO-DMT since this is the most common 4-AcO available (in fact, the only one I've personally got access to so far)

If this is the case, well if I forget to post it in the TR forum, drop me a PM in about a week's time, I have 800-900mg of 2C-E left and 250mg 4-AcO-DMT, will be trying combining them for the first time some time from next Wednesday to next Saturday :)
 
egor said:
If its anything like 4-aco-mipt + 2c-e expect an absurd level of visuals
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They are. I imagine that would be true with any 4-aco/ho.
I'm assuming OP means 4-aco-dmt, but I've found 15/15 with several different ones, it's always very visual.
 
Wise_Owl said:
wow, this thread has got me really excited to try 2ci (I dont got no e) + 4 aco dmt. one question though; if I normally take 18mg 2ci and 25-30 mg 4 aco, should I take those same amounts or reduce them?
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use half of each for the best of both worlds

you get less mental depth but a more euphoric body high than either alone and the visuals are crisper and more neon thanks to 2ci

great combo
 
hmmm when I tried combining several different 4 substituted tryptamines with 2c-t-2 and 2c-i several years back, I always ended up with a square peg in a round hole sort of feeling...I don't recall if 4-AcO-DMT was one of them though...I'll have to give this another go sometime. What time intervals are people taking the 2 chems at? Or are you taking them simultaneously?
 
taken 4acodmt (15mg) about 3 hours into a 2ci (18mg) trip, whilst fairly tipsy. It was an amazing and fun and happy experience. I believe I had also been offered a puny dab of mdma which probably added to how amazing the clouds and the grass and the cliffs and the waves were
 
Had the opportunity to try this last night -- 12mg 2ce + 25mg of 4-aco-dmt about an hour in (when we felt the 2ce starting to kick up) -- both orally.

Overall, I found the drugs combined beautifully to bring out some really nice visuals (2c sparkles and rainbow trails were throbbing with 4-aco warping, breathing grid).

I was just sitting around with friends listening to music all night, not moving around much so the 2ce muscle tension was a bit of a nuisance -- still I don't enjoy large amounts of 2ce for this reason so it was good I kept it to a smaller dose. Also, I did not get sick coming up with was a rarity for me as any phenethylamine usually gets to me.

While the two drugs seemed most well mixed visually (I recognized simultaneous triptamine/phenethylamine mental and energy patterns) -- I did feel like the 4-aco-dmt lightened/warmed up the 2ce, which was a positive for me.

4-aco wore off a good bit before the 2ce, which was fine because I felt less confusion, and was more clear-headed when I was tired, coming down, going home.
 
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