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Have any dilaudid users tried/switched to heroin?

Well it sounds like H is what im after - before my tolerance went way up, I used to plug dilaudid and loved the slow onset of the mild rush it gave, which then transformed into this great, warm blanket feeling. The super rush followed by mild buzz that I now get from iv dilaudid really doesn't do it for me.
 
I generally do 12mg (1 and half 8mg pills) for a shot that makes me feel anything. Over the weekend I experimented with higher doses for the first time, going as high as 32mg in one shot.

Yes, it was stronger, but I can't say it felt 2 or 3 times better. But preparing the shots sure was a pain! I filter with cotton and any more than 1.5 pills requires 2 or 3 passes to get the shot clear.

A lot of people say a 4mg shot does wonders for them, but not with MY tolerance. I've tried 4mg and I barely even notice the rush.

This is why I want to try H. During the week I'm fine with maintaining with dillies, but it would be nice to find something that will actually get me high on weekends.

The only problem is finding a hookup in socal, I'm new to this and literally have no clue how to score. I'm sure something will come my way eventually, but man, I sure am eager to just try the stuff already!
 
ados said:
In my experience, dilaudid has a better rush than heroin, and its consistent. On the other hand, heroin makes me feel more euphoric than dilaudid and the high lasts a lot longer. Heroin also has a really good rush, but it varies from batch to batch. Sometimes I get a KILLER rush from h, almost as good as dilaudid, and other times I get absolutely no rush and it just gradually comes on over 50-60 seconds. Don't expect heroin to be too much different from dilaudid; they both have pretty similar effects. Dilaudid just hits harder and leaves quicker; heroin feels more euphoric(for me at least) and has longer lasting effects. I have always thought of dilaudid as being the crack of opiates, heh.
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I don't find the high of Dilaudid to be very similar to Heroin. Dilaudid is like a really sharp and powerful rush followed by about an hour mild to moderate high. The rush from Heroin isn't so sharp, it lasts longer but not quite as powerful as hydromorphone. Followed by the rush is roughly a 4 hour nice peaceful high. Its also more sedating. In fact, I find them very different.

I'd say the most comparable IV prescription drug to heroin would be Morphine. The rush isn't quite as potent and Morphine is much more sedating but the high is pretty similar.
 
Got my hands on some tar. Long story short, as a test I decided to plug some to see how I like it before I take the iv plunge.

About an hour ago I plugged 3/4 of a bag (well, not really a bag, more like a gooey pea, but you know what I mean) and the most I feel is a little sleepy.

WTF? I thought this stuff is supposed to knock you on your ass. And plugging has the next highest BA to IV. Plugging THAT much should def have at least put me into low orbit.

Plus I injected 12mg of dilaudid prior to the plug.

Am I just the Batman of tolerance?
 
If 32 mgs of IV dilaudid doesn't get you where you want to be it's gonna be a bitch finding anything that does. I haven't tried heroin, I would have to drive two hours and by unknown quality on the streets, and that ain't gonna happen. But from those who have does it feel more like dilaudid or the pins and needles thing you get off morphine? I always imagined it was sort of both, but that's just a guess.
 
Squirrel, u b thread stalking me! You seem to be in the mood to just type anything, useful or not.
 
My experience... dilauidid is way better than the shitty ass tar I had. I did H maybe about 3 or 4 times IV. No rush at all. Longer lasting. Cheaper. Withdrawals suck ass no matter which opiate you do.

Don't read this and go do a shit ton of H because I said MY shit was bad. You may get some good shit and OD. With H there is no telling potency. With pills you know exactly what you're getting.
 
Well, you aren't going to feel as strong as a come on or "rush" when you are already opiated from dilaudid. I've never tried plugging h, so I don't know how that would compare to IVing. And like someone else has said, don't try to do a shitload of H at a time assuming its bad. I remember like 6 months ago I switched from OC back to H for financial reasons. To test the potency, I prepped a shot with a TINY piece of tar. I wasn't even expecting to get high from it. I shot it, and it was insanely strong. I was really glad I decided to test the potency or I would of probably killed myself.
 
I started on pills, and will never turn back after finding good H. the rush is way better. Be very careful if you decide to try it. try a small amount. maybe even smoke or snort it first.
 
ados said:
Well, you aren't going to feel as strong as a come on or "rush" when you are already opiated from dilaudid. I've never tried plugging h, so I don't know how that would compare to IVing. And like someone else has said, don't try to do a shitload of H at a time assuming its bad. I remember like 6 months ago I switched from OC back to H for financial reasons. To test the potency, I prepped a shot with a TINY piece of tar. I wasn't even expecting to get high from it. I shot it, and it was insanely strong. I was really glad I decided to test the potency or I would of probably killed myself.
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Yes, pills are so much more goddamn expensive than heroin.

Yes, you did the right thing testing the waters first with a small dose because you never know the potency of the batch and anyone should always try the smallest possible dose when it comes to hard drugs that can easily cause OD's.

My first time using heroin I did just 50mg (about $5 worth) of tar and got really blasted. The rush of shooting H is much more potent than all other opiates. Just thinking of that feeling gives me cravings and I've been clean for like a year.
 
MK3Y2K said:
I started on pills, and will never turn back after finding good H. the rush is way better. Be very careful if you decide to try it. try a small amount. maybe even smoke or snort it first.
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K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
My first time using heroin I did just 50mg (about $5 worth) of tar and got really blasted. The rush of shooting H is much more potent than all other opiates. Just thinking of that feeling gives me cravings and I've been clean for like a year.
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I've slammed alot of good smack in my time, but as far as the RUSH goes, Hydromorphone is the best IMO.

As for legs, HM sucks. Quite often I would combine HM with H in a shot, there is nothing else like it, fuckin A!
 
gibby_420 said:
I've slammed alot of good smack in my time, but as far as the RUSH goes, Hydromorphone is the best IMO.

As for legs, HM sucks. Quite often I would combine HM with H in a shot, there is nothing else like it, fuckin A!
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sound like you never had good heroin, pins and needles all the way. i hate shitty dope and pills. feels like a hospitol.
 
Well, I experimented more over the weekend. I got a second batch of tar through a friend, who tried it and said it was def better than the previous batch I tried.

But still no dice. I injected 3/4 of a ball of tar and barely caught a buzz. I mean yes, I felt it come on, but it was fairly mild and the resulting high made me feel "woozy" at best. Over the course of the night I was a little bit more disoriented than straight up dilaudid makes me, but only just.

No amazing rush, didn't talk to Elvis, no warm & fuzzes.

:-(

Dunno if it's the tar or my tolerance, but I'm not sure it matters at this point. Next weekend I'll try doing an entire ball, but if 3/4 of one didn't send me into outer space, I doubt a full one will make much difference. Even if it did, I just don't see spending $50 for one hit every time I'm in the mood!

The thing that freaks me out is about an hour after I did that 3/4 ball hit, I injected 16mg of dilaudid and even all that shit put together didn't get me high.

No one should be this tolerant!
 
John_Burrows said:
Well, I experimented more over the weekend. I got a second batch of tar through a friend, who tried it and said it was def better than the previous batch I tried.

But still no dice. I injected 3/4 of a ball of tar and barely caught a buzz. I mean yes, I felt it come on, but it was fairly mild and the resulting high made me feel "woozy" at best. Over the course of the night I was a little bit more disoriented than straight up dilaudid makes me, but only just.

No amazing rush, didn't talk to Elvis, no warm & fuzzes.

:-(

Dunno if it's the tar or my tolerance, but I'm not sure it matters at this point. Next weekend I'll try doing an entire ball, but if 3/4 of one didn't send me into outer space, I doubt a full one will make much difference. Even if it did, I just don't see spending $50 for one hit every time I'm in the mood!

The thing that freaks me out is about an hour after I did that 3/4 ball hit, I injected 16mg of dilaudid and even all that shit put together didn't get me high.

No one should be this tolerant!
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Of course a friend hooking you up is going to say its great. Why would he tell you its crappy? I mean, he's the one hooking it up for you. When I was using I had come across some great tar and on occasions I'd get some real crap so I'd need to break out an extra 80mg OxyContin on top of the two that I needed daily. I sold coke to support my habit so that meant I'd have to cut it down of what it already was. See how the whole drug world turns when shitty stuff is around.
 
I trust my friend, he isn't screwing me, case closed. The first batch he got me we all agreed wasn't quite right, and in fact his dealer basically admitted that it was from a different source and he wasn't going back to them. A few days later he was back to the original, trusted source, and to make it up to me he gave me a discount - if I bought another two bags, I'd get one free.

So I'm not getting screwed, I'm either just tolerant or H doesn't agree with me (we all know everyone has different reactions to different opiates).

My friend said the tar was good, it got him well slammed, so if it didn't have the same effect on me then I believe its me, not the H.
 
Ok, tonight I melted down an entire bag (or ball) of tar as my final test to try and get high from H. The initial rush was promising, but within half an hour I was back to feeling pretty much "normal."

I really don't like the idea of trying even more in one go, just no way thats healthy.
 
Where do you go from here?! Maybe a different direction and shoot some meth? The rush is supposed to be intense and long lasting. Don't think anyone would recommend that though, lol.
 
hahaha i just shot some meth while waitin for the dope man... i almost wish i didn't. def not a junkie's ideal high whatsoever
 
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