The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

[Mullered]

/\ I think we will have to trust the dosage is 100mg as its being sold as that in caps containing 6-apb cut with filling agents (Damn, I cant help it; is this classed as vendior talk or not?)

 

[grimmo]

I can't understand the need for filling agents. Smaller caps would be more sensible. Fuck's sake.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

Shambles why do you keep deleting my posts?

 

[Mullered]

I can't understand the need for filling agents. Smaller caps would be more sensible. Fuck's sake.

Or part filled caps. At least you have the choice to empty it out and do as you wish. I suspect the vendors arnt cutting it themselves, rather recieving it ready mixed to pellet. But with the need to get in the market first they not bothering with the pelleting and selling it as it comes

 

[Osky_P]

^ Mullered, in light of what happened to us both a few weeks ago have you ordered these any of these new capsules? or you waiting for reports?

 

[CatfishRivers]

I one 100% agree with you Shambles. Your just doing your job. I think as this is a totally umprecidented (sic) situation, talk like this is unavoidable to a certain extent. No more vendor teritory talk from me though, sorry!

No, it's entirely avoidable. It's not like there's a wire tapped into your brain that is reading every thought you have...no, well it is like that actually because you've got diarrhea mouth. Vendor discussion is against the rules. The only thing that is unprecedented is the number of whack-jobs stuffing unknown powders and pellets in their pie holes like tomorrow's gonna be the end of the world that end up posting about it here. I've watched your posts disappear and be snipped all afternoon long. Use some common sense dude. You're making our poor mods work double time by ignoring the rules. If you want to talk vendor stuff, really there are other places on the web talking about this very same topic that allow vendor talk. Go do it there...

I'm excited as the rest of the world about this chemical too, but c'mon for the love of the mods and this site, play by the rules please.

 

[Mullered]

No, it's entirely avoidable. It's not like there's a wire tapped into your brain that is reading every thought you have...no, well it is like that actually because you've got diarrhea mouth. Vendor discussion is against the rules. The only thing that is unprecedented is the number of whack-jobs stuffing unknown powders and pellets in their pie holes like tomorrow's gonna be the end of the world that end up posting about it here. I've watched your posts disappear and be snipped all afternoon long. Use some common sense dude. You're making our poor mods work double time by ignoring the rules. If you want to talk vendor stuff, really there are other places on the web talking about this very same topic that allow vendor talk. Go do it there...

I'm excited as the rest of the world about this chemical too, but c'mon for the love of the mods and this site, play by the rules please.

I think that comment is uncalled for. Some of what is being labled as vendor talk is actually constructive conversation promoting harm reduction to those inexperienced 'reserchers' who dont have the 'experience' to know if what they are buying is safe or not

 

[Shambles]

I do understand that with these new RCs being tied to certain vendors (or not) that it can be hard to completely avoid the V-word sometimes - I'm hardly completely innocent on that front myself - but this is BL not some source board so we just can't go down that road. A lot of borderline stuff may get through - maybe too much - but mods are doing their best to keep vendor chat to a minimum but if you could see the amount of posts that are removed from virtually every page of this thread...

You all know what you shouldn't be talking about so stop talking about it. No other thread has anything like this level of vendor discussion - there has never been a BL thread with this much vendor discussion - so give us mods a break and stop making work for us please. You know if your post is likely to go bye-bye so don't post it if you know it will.

Scooby: Some of your posts have been removed for the reasons above - either vendor talk or commenting on other peoples' vendor talk. Your posts are hardly the only ones being removed - there's six that have had to be removed on this page alone so far

 

[Mullered]

I do understand that with these new RCs being tied to certain vendors (or not) that it can be hard to completely avoid the V-word sometimes - I'm hardly completely innocent on that front myself - but this is BL not some source board so we just can't go down that road. A lot of borderline stuff may get through - maybe too much - but mods are doing their best to keep vendor chat to a minimum but if you could see the amount of posts that are removed from virtually every page of this thread...

You all know what you shouldn't be talking about so stop talking about it. No other thread has anything like this level of vendor discussion - there has never been a BL thread with this much vendor discussion - so give us mods a break and stop making work for us please. You know if your post is likely to go bye-bye so don't post it if you know it will.

Scooby: Some of your posts have been removed for the reasons above - either vendor talk or commenting on other peoples' vendor talk. Your posts are hardly the only ones being removed - there's six that have had to be removed on this page alone so far

But some of the posts being labled as vendor talk are far from it. Advising people the things to 'look out for' without even trying to attempt hinting at vendor identities is part of harm reduction, particually with the amout of hype and atincipation in the air at the moment

 

[CatfishRivers]

I think that comment is uncalled for. Some of what is being labled as vendor talk is actually constructive conversation promoting harm reduction to those inexperienced 'reserchers' who dont have the 'experience' to know if what they are buying is safe or not

Rules are rules. In a perfect world I would agree with you, and it's not like I want people to get hurt because they aren't making informed decisions. But really, in this case everyone is bringing it on themselves. The lot of you buying stuff before you know it is legitimate are creating a marketplace of fools. By everyone not being patient, you are literally supporting a marketplace overrun with scammers. Maybe your pills end up legit, good I hope so. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but what you are suggesting amounts to a "what did I take?" thread...

AND we're not here to help anyone BUY anything...

 

[grimmo]

Rules are rules. In a perfect world I would agree with you, and it's not like I want people to get hurt because they aren't making informed decisions. But really, in this case everyone is bringing it on themselves. The lot of you buying stuff before you know it is legitimate are creating a marketplace of fools. By everyone not being patient, you are literally supporting a marketplace overrun with scammers. Maybe your pills end up legit, good I hope so. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but what you are suggesting amounts to a "what did I take?" thread...

Legitimate? How would one know? Legitimacy is all based on vendor talk after all.

Trust no-one. Take the same precautions with EVERY vendor/batch.

 

[Shambles]

But some of the posts being labled as vendor talk are far from it. Advising people the things to 'look out for' without even trying to attempt hinting at vendor identities is part of harm reduction, particually with the amout of hype and atincipation in the air at the moment

Mods are human beings and whether a post is removed or not is purely a judgement call. Some that were probably acceptable will sometimes get the chop and some that should have gone slip through. Such is life. We do our best. If you or anybody else feels a post has been removed that shouldn't have been PM a mod and tell them why and they will review it. Same applies to posts that should go - make use of the report button and they get a review too. Decisions can be made or reversed if mistakes are made but if nobody says anything we don't know about it - trust me, modding this thread is a full time job even between all the PD mods so there will inevitably be times we get it wrong so tell us if you think we have

 

[CatfishRivers]

Legitimate? How would one know? Legitimacy is all based on vendor talk after all.

Trust no-one. Take the same precautions with EVERY vendor/batch.

Yes, this is very wise advice. Unless you are testing it you won't know so take precautions every single time you receive a new material.

However (and this is not directed at anyone in particular, but the to the lemming pill poppers), many of these chemicals have data available that one could run tests to confirm against such as marquis reagent test and similar tests. Not too long ago in this thread someone shared some of these test results so that people can have some level of assurance at least prior to putting something unknown in their bodies. But to each his or her own. It's not my body, it yours. I imagine that one of the basic precepts in harm reduction would be to NOT ingest things you aren't sure of their identity. It's just not a smart risk to take. But maybe the good folks who edit the Oxford English Dictionary have gone ahead and combined the words intrepid and stupid...what do I know...I really hope everyone stays safe and makes informed decisions...it's the only reason why I am bothering to argue about this in the first place.

 

[Mullered]

Mods are human beings and whether a post is removed or not is purely a judgement call. Some that were probably acceptable will sometimes get the chop and some that should have gone slip through. Such is life. We do our best. If you or anybody else feels a post has been removed that shouldn't have been PM a mod and tell them why and they will review it. Same applies to posts that should go - make use of the report button and they get a review too. Decisions can be made or reversed if mistakes are made but if nobody says anything we don't know about it - trust me, modding this thread is a full time job even between all the PD mods so there will inevitably be times we get it wrong so tell us if you think we have

Again Shambles I agree with you. Not trying to blow smoke up your arse but I know your doing your job and I know I speak for us all when I say I have a lot of respect for what your doing.

This is a forum, a place for discussion. It just seems that we're being treated like nursery school kids as a reslut of pressure from people that have no constructive input to the discussion other than getting on there high horse and telling people what they should and shouldnt be saying (thats not aimed at you shambles).

People need to lighten up a little bit and remember that this is an unprecidented situation. Until we know for sure that the real deal is readily available then the majority of harm reduction is going to be atributed to making sure people, especially the inexperienced, arnt risking their lives by consuming unknown substances from unsavoury providers. This means describing what has been purchased, what form it has been purchased in etc without the need to even hint at who the vendor is. Harm reduction is what it's about surely?

 

[CatfishRivers]

But why are you risking your lives in the first place? Why don't you get it? The unprecedented situation is that so many people are willing to put themselves in harms way, rather than slow down and perhaps work with some other of the myriad of chemicals available currently.

But anyhow, you still don't understand that bluelight is not the consumer's report for research chemicals. We're not here to compare details of products offered by different vendors, even if it would help reduce harm, it's just not the venue for that info. We're here to talk about 6-apb, the chemical itself, and experiences with the chemical, not some pellet with unknown contents and whether or not it is 6-apb. I know it is a subtle difference, but it is the difference between offering information for information sake, and pointing someone towards a source for something and assisting them in purchasing it (by providing all those comparison details). Without any prior knowledge I have used comments laced with veiled vendor details and talk to find probably every vendor out there.

But really, in the interest of true harm reduction, slow down people. You're running headfirst into who knows what. It breaks my hear to be honest. You think harm reduction should apply to finding out whether or not a product you are about to consume is what it should be, which are you consuming it to find this out...why are you buying that crap in the first place? I guess eventually one of the vendors will be selling pure 6-apb, and everyone including myself will jump for joy, but everyone jumping the gun like this is creating a market for impure and bogus material. But that's your choice, and that's cool. We just aren't allowed by the user agreeement to talk about vendors and how they package or sell their products. Does this whole trend of vendor talk and product comparison details not skeeve anyone else out? This thread feels like a whole other place, not PD...

Anyhow, do what you will. I don't mean to talk down to you, I was just trying to get your attention because you seem like your asleep at the wheel...best of luck to everyone ingesting unknown pellets. May the gerbil gods smile upon you and keep you safe.

 

[grimmo]

But why are you risking your lives in the first place? Why don't you get it? The unprecedented situation is that so many people are willing to put themselves in harms way, rather than slow down and perhaps work with some other of the myriad of chemicals available currently.

But anyhow, you still don't understand that bluelight is not the consumer's report for research chemicals. We're not here to compare details of products offered by different vendors, even if it would help reduce harm, it's just not the venue for that info. We're here to talk about 6-apb, the chemical itself, and experiences with the chemical, not some pellet with unknown contents and whether or not it is 6-apb. I know it is a subtle difference, but it is the difference between offering information for information sake, and pointing someone towards a source for something and assisting them in purchasing it (by providing all those comparison details). Without any prior knowledge I have used comments laced with veiled vendor details and talk to find probably every vendor out there.

But really, in the interest of true harm reduction, slow down people. You're running headfirst into who knows what. It breaks my hear to be honest. You think harm reduction should apply to finding out whether or not a product you are about to consume is what it should be, which are you consuming it to find this out...why are you buying that crap in the first place? I guess eventually one of the vendors will be selling pure 6-apb, and everyone including myself will jump for joy, but everyone jumping the gun like this is creating a market for impure and bogus material. But that's your choice, and that's cool. We just aren't allowed by the user agreeement to talk about vendors and how they package or sell their products. Does this whole trend of vendor talk and product comparison details not skeeve anyone else out? This thread feels like a whole other place, not PD...

Anyhow, do what you will. I don't mean to talk down to you, I was just trying to get your attention because you seem like your asleep at the wheel...best of luck to everyone ingesting unknown pellets. May the gerbil gods smile upon you and keep you safe.

Sorry to quote and not add anything here, but you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[jpcardiff]

But why are you risking your lives in the first place? Why don't you get it? The unprecedented situation is that so many people are willing to put themselves in harms way, rather than slow down and perhaps work with some other of the myriad of chemicals available currently.

But anyhow, you still don't understand that bluelight is not the consumer's report for research chemicals. We're not here to compare details of products offered by different vendors, even if it would help reduce harm, it's just not the venue for that info. We're here to talk about 6-apb, the chemical itself, and experiences with the chemical, not some pellet with unknown contents and whether or not it is 6-apb. I know it is a subtle difference, but it is the difference between offering information for information sake, and pointing someone towards a source for something and assisting them in purchasing it (by providing all those comparison details). Without any prior knowledge I have used comments laced with veiled vendor details and talk to find probably every vendor out there.

But really, in the interest of true harm reduction, slow down people. You're running headfirst into who knows what. It breaks my hear to be honest. You think harm reduction should apply to finding out whether or not a product you are about to consume is what it should be, which are you consuming it to find this out...why are you buying that crap in the first place? I guess eventually one of the vendors will be selling pure 6-apb, and everyone including myself will jump for joy, but everyone jumping the gun like this is creating a market for impure and bogus material. But that's your choice, and that's cool. We just aren't allowed by the user agreeement to talk about vendors and how they package or sell their products. Does this whole trend of vendor talk and product comparison details not skeeve anyone else out? This thread feels like a whole other place, not PD...

Anyhow, do what you will. I don't mean to talk down to you, I was just trying to get your attention because you seem like your asleep at the wheel...best of luck to everyone ingesting unknown pellets. May the gerbil gods smile upon you and keep you safe.

Well said.

 

[Mullered]

But why are you risking your lives in the first place? Why don't you get it? The unprecedented situation is that so many people are willing to put themselves in harms way, rather than slow down and perhaps work with some other of the myriad of chemicals available currently.

But anyhow, you still don't understand that bluelight is not the consumer's report for research chemicals. We're not here to compare details of products offered by different vendors, even if it would help reduce harm, it's just not the venue for that info. We're here to talk about 6-apb, the chemical itself, and experiences with the chemical, not some pellet with unknown contents and whether or not it is 6-apb. I know it is a subtle difference, but it is the difference between offering information for information sake, and pointing someone towards a source for something and assisting them in purchasing it (by providing all those comparison details). Without any prior knowledge I have used comments laced with veiled vendor details and talk to find probably every vendor out there.

But really, in the interest of true harm reduction, slow down people. You're running headfirst into who knows what. It breaks my hear to be honest. You think harm reduction should apply to finding out whether or not a product you are about to consume is what it should be, which are you consuming it to find this out...why are you buying that crap in the first place? I guess eventually one of the vendors will be selling pure 6-apb, and everyone including myself will jump for joy, but everyone jumping the gun like this is creating a market for impure and bogus material. But that's your choice, and that's cool. We just aren't allowed by the user agreeement to talk about vendors and how they package or sell their products. Does this whole trend of vendor talk and product comparison details not skeeve anyone else out? This thread feels like a whole other place, not PD...

Anyhow, do what you will. I don't mean to talk down to you, I was just trying to get your attention because you seem like your asleep at the wheel...best of luck to everyone ingesting unknown pellets. May the gerbil gods smile upon you and keep you safe.

I stand corrected This is what discussions all about. I just feel some posts deserve a reply like this rather than being deleted outright, unless the post is hinting at vendor identification

 

[Toltec]

Some folks can't see past being the first kid on the block with the newest toy

I know this girl that was pregnant see lit up a cigarette in the car; so I said thats not good for your baby, She told me that she smokes so her baby wont grow so big in side of her.

I said What!!

she said well it says on the pack that cigarette smoking may cause low birth weight.
she really believe that smoking does no harm.
Some folk just don't understand and perceive things the same way others do.

So Darwinian
of, relating to, or being a competitive environment or situation in which only the fittest persons or organizations prosper

I'm here to understand what this new RC is all about. Before I even try it I learn as much as possible I'll wait a few months to see if there are any side effects if any. Unlike this person that posted over on the TR tread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=504735 it seems that addiction drives him.

sadly some of you like to be Ginnie pigs and it seems that ether your unaware that theses drugs are UNREACHED or don't care about your futures

 

[Mullered]

Some folks can't see past being the first kid on the block with the newst toy

I know this girl that was pregnant see lit up a cigarette in the car; so I said thats not good for your baby, She told me that she smokes so her baby wont grow so big in side of her.

I said What!!

she said well it says on the pack that cigarette smoking may cause low birth weight.

Some folk just don't understand and perceive things the same way others do.

So Darwinian

of, relating to, or being a competitive environment or situation in which only the fittest persons or organizations prosper

I'm here to understand what this new RC is all about. Before I even try it I learn as much as possible I'll Waite a few months to see if there are any side effects if any. Unlike this person that posted over on the TR tread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=504735

sadly some of you like to be Ginnie pigs and it seems that ether your unaware that theses drugs are UNREACHED

Welcome to the 'discussion'