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Homemade Bong or Joints?

My point was that neither of us knows if bong smoke is any moister than, say, the air on a hot, humid day. Without knowing that, we can't really know how likely it is to cause infection.

P.S. I don't know where you're from so I can't throw any stereotypes at you.
 
humid days are a condition to wich all humans are developed.
Plain logic tells me if the top of your bong is moist and you are inhaling an unnatural concentration of water from a confined and pressurised environment you need to accept that this like any other smoking method when employed 4+ times in a 12 hour period has inherent risks.

p.s. Australia lol plenty available
 
^Plain logic tells me that if bong smoke is no moister than humid air, to which we are all adapted, then there's no health risk. Of course any smoking method is inherently dangerous, but with regards to bong smoke being especially likely to cause bronchitis due to moisture, I'd rather reserve judgement until I see some hard facts. Scepticism ftw.

You're Australian? I could jip you off but, frankly, it would be too easy ;)
 
wait what. lol. Atomized h2o is what im pointing to. youll find that the humidity you talk of is from vapour. i dont see your point.

where are the mythbusters team when you need them?

p.s. im greek in origin, therefore at some point i have already jiped you. lol. remember the trojan horse.
 
Actually, I get a chest cold nearly every time I go back to my bong after I haven't used it in a while.

If the two situations are linked, though, it probably has to do with old bongwater being left in a bong undisturbed for several weeks. Stagnant water'll fuck you over every time.




I'm with hazed420 on this one, even if we agree for different reasons.
 
where are the mythbusters team when you need them?
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Where are they indeed? You may well both be right, but until someone studies this in a scientific way, we just don't know.
 
Use a bong if you want to be conservative, that will stretch your stash a lot further. I like bongs a lot better than joints or pipes, but I have bad luck with homemade bongs, so if you have to make it yourself, I would go with the joint.
 
I read somewhere on BL that strong inhalations associated w/ frequent bong usage can cause lung damage.
 
we know, we just dont have paperwork to back it up.
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Scientific studies aren't just a formality, they are how we find shit out. There wouldn't be much point studying phenomena if the results of experimentation were never surprising.
 
If you're trying to preserve your weed, don't smoke joints.
I advise making a buckit (gravity bong), waterfall or lung. If you are using pipes or bongs I usually find separating what you wish to smoke into smaller one hit piles gets you higher than taking it all in one hit, more so with pipes.
 
Even the most half assed homemade bong is going to get you more high than joints, longer term though there probably isn't an unhealthier way to smoke than plastic bongs. My advice is go with the homemade bong, put away the money you save not having to roll shitty joints in the meantime until you can afford a real bong and then never look back.
 
I still struggle to understand why plastic bongs are more dangerous. If anything its more shape and size than material? And the half assed bong method will not get you "more high" compared to a well rolled slow burning joint.
 
Yerg said:
Scientific studies aren't just a formality, they are how we find shit out. There wouldn't be much point studying phenomena if the results of experimentation were never surprising.
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Wtf scientific research often is a formality to confirm common knowledge. There can always be surprises and others debunking research. Science is not black and white. Stuff does exist before it is discovered and researched in a lab. Science is constantly shifting and changing, therefore no finding is a be all end all or confirmed 100% accurate. Even the fundimentals.
 
^So what you're saying is that, even if there were to be a rigorous study, we wouldn't know for sure. I hardly see, then, how you can claim that we already know.
 
there is NEVER 100% accuracy in science, its a game that is constantly shifting, even basic shit we thought was scientific law. Yerg its fine to be a skeptic, but to assume that science is always 100% accurate is dillusional, so is not recognising health problems associated with chronic bong smoke because a lab test has not been done. Yes you can never be 100% sure.
 
hazed420 said:
I still struggle to understand why plastic bongs are more dangerous. If anything its more shape and size than material? And the half assed bong method will not get you "more high" compared to a well rolled slow burning joint.
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It's the material. Plastics can release all kinds of nasty stuff that you don't want in your lungs.



Be careful with anything homemade. It's easy to make a simple bong out of something like a plastic bottle, but you are inhaling all kinds of chemicals and toxins that your body and brain DO NOT need. Even the traditional coke can pipe isn't really a "safe" method.
Anything homemade should be organic, otherwise I believe you are running a big health risk.

I say stick with joints.
 
@hazed: I really don't see where the disagreement is. I don't think that science is always 100% accurate, I'm quite familiar with scientific revolutions and under-determination and theory-laden-ness of data and all that jazz. If we can't always make accurate generalisations even with methodical experimentation, though, we certainly can't do it based on anecdotal evidence. I didn't claim that the statement "smoking a bong causes inhalation of atomised water that causes bronchitis" was false, I just said we didn't know.
you can never be 100% sure
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We've reached an accord, then?
 
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