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What is up with the stumlant comedown/crash?

Soap MacTavish

Soap MacTavish

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Do comedowns get worse over length of stimulant use? For example I've been on adderall for half a year and I don't seem to get these comedowns. I've had multi-day binges ingesting maybe 30mgs every few hours so like 240mg's a day for 3 days straight and then I eventually stop and crash but the only comedown I get is that I get super-ultra tired and kinda depressed, like the party's over, and I just go to sleep (for like 8 or 10 hours) and then I feel fine. No residual effects after that. Is this normal?
 
Well that beats the hell out of an opiate or benzo withdrawal any day. The trade off is the damage this stuff inflicts to the body and mind if you are heavy-dosing it.
 
I always laugh when people (usually drug counselors) talk about "meth withdrawls". I guess they mean you sleep for a week, that's all that happens.
 
^I know. I am not used to using for extended periods and then there's no withdrawal except being sad cuz you're out then a yawn and nap. Amazing. It's almost unfair. If I shoot heroin for a week I will be violently ill when I stop. Like, I would kill to not feel like that. And it lasts for weeks on end. If only all withdrawals could be like this the world would be a happier place.
 
Soap MacTavish said:
^I know. I am not used to using for extended periods and then there's no withdrawal except being sad cuz you're out then a yawn and nap. Amazing. It's almost unfair. If I shoot heroin for a week I will be violently ill when I stop. Like, I would kill to not feel like that. And it lasts for weeks on end. If only all withdrawals could be like this the world would be a happier place.
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"Like, I would kill to not feel like that."

I never went "that" far with my addiction. I mean I stole cars, pawned everything I owned, sold cocaine, broke into homes, stole from all my friends and eventually wound up in inpatient rehab and then jail for a few months but I still had enough control not to kill someone :) PLUR
 
Damn K'd, sounds like you were a real villian, but now you chillin', and that's good.

Never stole cars, but I pawned everything I could get my hands on to come up with the money back in the day when filling out the questionaire would result in 120 Norco!

Hell, I stopped at friends houses to use the restroom and then went through their medicine cabinent, taking every narcotic I came across. Even hydro cough syrups went in the big cargo pockets of the pants I wore.

I'm really glad that part of my life is over and that I have gotten closure from the people I robbed of meds.
 
Believe me I feel it but I didn't mean it literally. That's one of the reasons I got so messed up in the head during my tour in Iraq.
 
I find the come downs get worse over time. Originally I didn't get any negative come down symptoms at all, apart from tiredness or whatever. But 7 years later, and as my meth use has progressed to pretty much daily sometimes, I find I get scattered sooner and sooner. Do that for too many days and a hit is a high for a minute then straight into feeling even shitter than before.
 
footscrazy said:
I find the come downs get worse over time. Originally I didn't get any negative come down symptoms at all, apart from tiredness or whatever. But 7 years later, and as my meth use has progressed to pretty much daily sometimes, I find I get scattered sooner and sooner. Do that for too many days and a hit is a high for a minute then straight into feeling even shitter than before.
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Wow, good to know this. Makes me think twice about abusing the hell out of my adderall prescription. How do you take your meth hit? In your vein or smoke?

Years back I had a habit of snorting that stuff for like a year and then eventually found the hallucinations and paranoia totally unbearable. Finally I had some sort of weird heart freakout, I was pretty sure I was having a heart attack so an ambulance was called and away I went to get my heart back in order. I haven't touched it since that day. Having cardiac arrest in front of your friends who don't know your a methed out fool was pretty much not fun.
 
edgewise1 said:
Damn K'd, sounds like you were a real villian, but now you chillin', and that's good.

Never stole cars, but I pawned everything I could get my hands on to come up with the money back in the day when filling out the questionaire would result in 120 Norco!

Hell, I stopped at friends houses to use the restroom and then went through their medicine cabinent, taking every narcotic I came across. Even hydro cough syrups went in the big cargo pockets of the pants I wore.

I'm really glad that part of my life is over and that I have gotten closure from the people I robbed of meds.
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Hell, I stopped at friends houses to use the restroom and then went through their medicine cabinent, taking every narcotic I came across. Even hydro cough syrups went in the big cargo pockets of the pants I wore.

LOL, I'd did the same thing. EVERY restroom I ever went to I'd open the cabinet. "I have to use the bathroom" My biggest score was a bottle of...drum role...80mg OxyContin! Qty 30. There were 24 left. Almost a $1000 score. My habit was VERY satisfied for like 8 days! One of my oddest scores was a bottle of "opium tincture". It was like a cough syrup bottle but the top of the bottle was made to just to pour drops.
I'm not clean from all drugs but I am clean from opiates so I'm not the bad guy I used to be.

In response to the rest of the convo,

I forgot one other symptom I'd get from Adderall. I get really angry and irritated. Usually after waking up from the night before.
I remember because yesterday I took 240mg throughout the day (60mg snorted) and I was able to get sleep a few hours after the last one I snorted but when I woke up this morning I was so angry and irritated with everything. Luckily a couple hours ago I remembered the bottle of Valium that I hide from myself (I'll do that with my script drugs) and chugged a bunch down.
 
Soap MacTavish said:
Do comedowns get worse over length of stimulant use? For example I've been on adderall for half a year and I don't seem to get these comedowns. I've had multi-day binges ingesting maybe 30mgs every few hours so like 240mg's a day for 3 days straight and then I eventually stop and crash but the only comedown I get is that I get super-ultra tired and kinda depressed, like the party's over, and I just go to sleep (for like 8 or 10 hours) and then I feel fine. No residual effects after that. Is this normal?
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I found the comedowns were worse after I used more than usual in a session, or if I had become sleep deprived from staying awake for days. I don't think they got worse over the length of time that I'd been using.

fryingsquirrel said:
I always laugh when people (usually drug counselors) talk about "meth withdrawls". I guess they mean you sleep for a week, that's all that happens.
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Umm... no. Obviously you've never had a meth addiction yourself. If the withdrawals consisted of only sleeping for a week, I would have quit long ago. Meth withdrawals include severe depression, fatigue, cravings, anxiety and panic, and possibly the worst constipation you'll ever have! Trust me on that. :\
 
My comedowns have gotten worse over time, but I make sure that I have a benzo on hand to help with anxiety and maybe a laxative of some sort if I do get constipated (which is rare for me).

I just try to keep my usage relatively the same every time I do use.
 
Sweet P said:



Umm... no. Obviously you've never had a meth addiction yourself. If the withdrawals consisted of only sleeping for a week, I would have quit long ago. Meth withdrawals include severe depression, fatigue, cravings, anxiety and panic, and possibly the worst constipation you'll ever have! Trust me on that. :\
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Oh I have (and still have to some degree) had an addiction to it. I spent most of the last ten years making the shit. I would definately get cravings and fatigue when I would be off it. Never really got depressed, I'm lucky that way I guess. I never even thought about being constipated, but now that you mention it I have heard people say that before. For me constipation is something I will always asocciate with my time as one of the pod people. I'll never know how I came out of that without withdrawls. Probably because I had to keep quitting long enough to take a crap.
 
Well I gotta eat my words. This latest crash was quite a whore. I refilled today but that was not fun at all. Almost 5 days of being irritated and depressed about my supply being out. I tried energy drinks, snuff, caffeine, guarana, vitamin C, nothin really worked to shake that bad vibe, and all those stimulants did was make the situation/anxiety worse.

A low dose of Klonopin (.5mg) would keep the mild depression at bay for 6 hours but still no energy and I'm not about to get hooked on benzo's again so I just suffered through it all.

Fuck that nex time I'm rationing it out. For me these comedowns are getting worse with time, and my age probablyt doesn't help either. I'm over 30 so not as resilient anymore.
 
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