A hit of salvia on shrooms?

[swiftnglow]

I am going to be taking 1/16th of shrooms in a few days (i know it isnt that much, i am going to try to get another 1/16th so i can have a really rewarding first trip).

My first question is will 1/16th be plenty or should I really shoot for more? I am doing them with an experienced boomer.. in my house. He says the shrooms we got are almost no visual and completely mental. Incase that means anything to the dosage.

Also, I have never done salvia, would trying salvia on shrooms be more rewarding, harmful, or scary? Thanks for the answers!

 

[solistus]

1/16th is enough if they're really potent shrooms, but for average quality ones I would recommend trying to get a little more. An 8th is a good amount, but you can get away with a little less, maybe 2.5-3g, and you will probably still get the full effects.

As for salvia on shrooms, I would definitely suggest you hold off until you've tried each one on its own. They are very different, and both very powerful. Either one can be pretty overwhelming on its own. Combining the two would increase the risk of having a scary/negative experience. While some people have wonderful, glowing breakthroughs, a lot of times salvia trips have a pretty dark/sinister edge. An unpleasant salvia trip might put you in a bad mental state and make it hard to enjoy the rest of your shroom trip.

Is this your first psychedelic or just your first time with shrooms? If it's your first trip, I don't think you'll need to add any other drugs to keep yourself entertained/occupied.

 

[greenmeanies]

if you have never done shrooms before, and never done salvia before, why in god's name would you try combining them on your first go?

stick with 1/16th oz (~1.75g) for your first time. if you smoke weed regularly, have a joint pre-rolled in case you think you need it during the trip but i would suggest you don't combine anything with shrooms your very first time. just try to get a feel for it.

read the first time tripper thread, read some more trip reports. make sure your ipod is charged or your favorite cds are ready to be played. dim the lights and try dancing. don't forget to stay hydrated and keep light snacks around (apple, mixed nuts, etc). close your eyes and push on your eyelids and see what you can see.

don't trip if you have any unresolved issues in your life right now. the mushrooms can really mess with your emotions and make you feel like you are not in the right place in life. for some people who are experienced with this feeling, it can be put to use and can help catalyze a positive change. but if you are unprepared for the wrath of your subconscious, it can completely devastate you for weeks after the trip. IMO the best time to trip is right after you accomplish something that has a tangible effect on moving your life forward on your chosen path (for students, when final exams are all done)

don't be afraid to meditate. i'm not sure how your friend is approaching the mushroom, but if you have any religious or spiritual background i highly suggest you try meditating. even if you don't know how to meditate, the mushroom can teach you. simply listen to your breathing and try humming lowly to yourself. with practice, you can fly among the stars and time travel.

some people say turn off and set aside your phone because parents have a peculiar habit of calling right at the most inopportune time, but if you're like me then your phone is almost an extension of your hand and you should keep it in case you feel the need to talk to a comforting friend or significant other. since you're tripping with someone else, think about getting another friend to tripsit for you. it is really nice to have someone sober to tell you that the cops are not coming to get you, the fridge is not on fire, etc. experienced tripsitters will also be able to help choose music and ambiance to guide your trip into something that you would not be able to do on your own.

finally, remember that it's just a drug and you may feel crazy for a couple hours. that's why you ate them after all

good luck and godspeed!

 

[Toltec]

solistus said:
"salvia trips have a pretty dark/sinister edge. An unpleasant salvia trip might put you in a bad mental state and make it hard to enjoy the rest of your shroom trip"

I would have said>
salvia trips CAN have a pretty dark/sinister edge/

If your still new to tripping i would not take a chance like that.

And your friend says> "the shrooms we got are almost no visual and completely mental"
Mix that with a Salvia trip and thing can go wrong.

Lots of people's first time salvia trips scare the crap out of them.
It's still your call

Good luck to ya

 

[swiftnglow]

alright i will avoid the salvia for sure this time! wont be a problem :S

and i am one that gets extremely paranoid on weed, more than my friends, will that be an issue on shrooms? I have no problems in life, my only problem is that i am doing them in my basement with my parents two floors up and they are NOT okay with me doing them. I am afraid i will get paranoid that they will catch me. The thing is when I am home and stoned the things I get paranoid about are like random noises, not my parents catching me, so...

and I way 150 pounts, I think I am going to try 3/32 of shrooms. Or an eight and a sixteenth.

 

[greenmeanies]

your math is wrong. 3/32 is not 1/8 + 1/16. this is why the metric system is much more useful than imperial measurement for drugs.

1.7-2.0g (the vicinity of 1/16 to 3/32) is a good first timer dose, but i would strongly suggest you DO NOT TAKE THEM IN YOUR PARENTS HOUSE WITH THEM UPSTAIRS.

while this is not exactly the "recipe for a disaster"
it is most CERTAINLY NOT a "recipe for a beautiful and fulfilling first time"

you wouldn't want your first sexual encounter to be with a dirty whore in teh backseat of a taxi?

i think you need to read more on set and setting. wait until your parents are gone for the weekend so there is no chance of them busting in on you while you and your friend are fingerpainting like five-year-olds (super fun btw)

you are going to want to turn the music up, make noise, dance around, etc. will everything you need be in the basement or will you have to go upstairs to piss or get food?

 

[swiftnglow]

Sorry I didnt mean 1/8 + 1/16. I meant 1/16 + half a 1/16. 3/32. You buy them here is 1/16s so...

And my friend says I will be find doing then at my parents, we pop them in at 11pm, when my parents go to bed. I go and bring food downstairs. Bathroom is downstairs. music is downstairs that i always blast. lovesac. etc... if you reallllly dont think i should do it here i guess i will do it somewhere else

 

[Toltec]

Read up on>
"Set and Setting"
before you take 4 or 5 grams of shrooms with your parents in the house.

If you are a little paranoid at times, your gambling with an awful high dose of shrooms that your planing on taking. That dose can get really wiggy at times for some. I can't believe your friend says there no visuals. I believe you'll get both; most people do, some don't again it's your call.

That dose can make the doors and windows in a room appearer to not be there any more coz they get lost in the visuals and toughs.

It can be a real learning experience for you or you could get trapped in a though loop thinking your parent know. < That would scare me away from doing it at home. Id go find a safe comfortable place to trip where i knew i hand about 10 hrs with no commitment to anything or anyone but my trip

Set and setting is like being in a great mood, being in a safe secure place with no responsibilities for 10+ hours no worries and good positive music = a great trip

If your taking 2 grams or so then you may make it fine at home with your parents there. One rule of thumb is every strain of shroom are different in potency ie I've eaten 2 grams of shrooms from Thailand "Koh Samui" they where like I ate 5 gram of another type, you never know how a trip can go especially certain kinds of set and settings!

Using psychedelic requires the proper respect and set and setting to insure a great trip.
Cheers

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

I would say up the dosage as your with an experienced tripper, as long as you feel comfortable doing so. I would not reccomend trying Salvia for the first time under the influence of another drug for the first time, as many find it unpleasant and you could even freak out putting you off both for life ): As i dont know you as a person, and how much you weigh, your experience with other drugs ect. I could not voice my opinion properly given the said information. If you want to try it, its up to you; personally I would prefer to smoke sally on LSD... but thats just me Peace, Kam.

 

[Newbierock]

Smoking salvia isn't exactly pleasant (well nothing is really, but theres many other things i'd rather smoke before salvia) & that unpleasant cloud of smoke alone can do bad things to my trips. nevermind the scary ass trip that'll follow.

 

[SpecialK_]

As you have never done Salvia I don't recommend doing it if you plan to smoke it properly (jet lighter, etc) Salvia is the most powerful psychedelic I have ever come across, it's extremely overwhelming - which causes it to (unless a significantly low dose) to be frightening and too strong. The only time I have ever enjoyed salvia was on a low dose through a pipe, so I barely got a hit. The best trips I have had it was like waking up in a dream in this crazy world, nothing like earth. Alongside shrooms, especially since it's your first time I HIGHLY suggest you don't do this. Get a whippit/nitrous or something to make your trip more interesting if you can get your hands on it.

 

[invert]

I've tried salvia while on 'shrooms a couple of times, and found it much more enjoyable that when taking salvia while sober. The experience erred more towards uncontrollable hilarity and extreme weirdness than towards the usual (for me) sense of horror and extreme weirdness. Having said that, I'd suggest getting to know salvia on its own before adding it to 'shrooms. Salvia's headspace really is way different from any serotonergic psychedelic I've taken.

 

[swiftnglow]

And the 3/32 of an ounce that we would be taking is like 2.65 grams isn't it? It really isn't that much And I way 150 pounds so I am pretty light or average for drugs

 

[SpecialK_]

And the 3/32 of an ounce that we would be taking is like 2.65 grams isn't it? It really isn't that much

It's still enough to provide an interesting mental trip on shrooms. You shall still have a good time, think of it was an introductory dose.

 

[Percussion_is_Free]

I would rather punch myself in the nuts than smoke salvia right now.

 

[Tromps]

I can't speak for shrooms and salvia, but I have smoked salvia on dxm before. I find that salvia alone can be pretty unpleasent. Although if my mind is already pushed in a positive drug-induced mind state, then salvia only adds to that.

I wouldn't make any decision now, just wait until your tripping on the shrooms and see how you feel. The beauty of it is salvia only lasts a few minutes, so weather or not you like it or not it won't last long. If you do decide to smoke salvia, be sure to be laying down and listening to some of your favorite music. Close your eyes and embrace it, just go with the flow, don't fight what is happening.

Best of luck to ya'

 

[SpecialK_]

I can't speak for shrooms and salvia, but I have smoked salvia on dxm before. I find that salvia alone can be pretty unpleasent. Although if my mind is already pushed in a positive drug-induced mind state, then salvia only adds to that.

I wouldn't make any decision now, just wait until your tripping on the shrooms and see how you feel. The beauty of it is salvia only lasts a few minutes, so weather or not you like it or not it won't last long. If you do decide to smoke salvia, be sure to be laying down and listening to some of your favorite music. Close your eyes and just go with the flow, don't fight what happens.

Best of luck to ya'

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