Eckhart Tolle
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My dog SWIM was wondering whats the diefference between 018 and 073 in terms of length and effects.
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JWH-018 - First Time - Holy Shit, I'm higher than the sun (aka best night ever).
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Eckhart Tolle
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again, Did I kill this trread?
Bob Loblaw
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No, but you can search Cannabis Discussion and perhaps BDD for more info.
P.S. BL isn't a pool, so don't bother SWIMming here
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P.S. BL isn't a pool, so don't bother SWIMming here
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whats the diefference between 018 and 073 in terms of length and effects?
HippieChick
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No, there are zero cannaboids (sp?), it's all chemicals, dangerous ones and the 018 would be probably the most risky of 'overdoing it' I personally haven't heard of anyone dying, but I've read lots of rolling on the bathroom floor in the fetal position experience. Proceed with much caution.
HippieChick
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The 018 is MUCH stronger with a high lasting oh 1 - 1.5 hours and can produce a very paranoid bummer vomiting kinda experiences. And it seems that it doesn't have to be a huge amount 'over' to trigger this.
The 073 is different (from my experiences only) there seems to be less of a chance of having an adverse reaction, it seems to be more addictive as you want to redose every 15 - 20 mins; or at least I do.
The 250 (for me again) was unfulfilling until I left it alone for about a week and then tried it again, I had a greater appreciation for it then. Good luck.
HippieChick
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Yes, huge differeces. Research the threads before making a decision. 250 is missing a 'ring' (I'm no chemist) that some of the others like 018 and 073 have that ring are 'bad' for you. I've read on some other posts that it's like smoking 2 unfiltered cigs. So my suggestion is READ A LOT of the threads; esp. trip reports. Good luck.
Eckhart Tolle
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I ordered a mg scale. from what iv read it sound like a Must Have.
barafundle
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iv smoked jwh-018 a couple times and each time,even with small amounts,it made me a nervous wreck.i allready need 2 take it easy nowadays after overdoig it on hash in my teens-need 2 make sure im home or with mates who understand and good setting,then i have good time.so if ur pre-disposed 2 that feelin like me then id advice 2 stay away-i ended up hiding under bed covers on a small bong lol so be careful!
b0ng twacker
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the stuff I have had has been BRIGHT yellow (like this smiley)
I've heard of other resin type 'chunks' of this stuff. I'd stay away from that. It sounds gross.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm never going to smoke any JWH any more, since that shit is basically glue. It takes a minute to get clean off your mouth, tongue, throat, lungs. Its gross shit basically.
I also think its given me these 3 little systemic pimples on my lips. After a long run smoking that stuff for days in a row, I got these little lip pimples (that I've never got in my life ha). One after another. I believe that was the glue shit clogging my lip pores.
If your J Dubs is yellow like that smiley it must have been impure. I would be scared to smoke that.
Jwh administration/dosage/discrimination
I would just like to put my experiences with this product out there. I have been using Marijuana for many many years now although this product Is similar to the effects of weed it is not the same. People need to understand that like any substance (caffeine, food, alcohol,.....) If abused or mis understood/misused can have adverse potentially life threatening side effects. Always know what you are doing and use in moderation or it can be harmful
in some way..Duh!
Rather than try to make every substance on the planet Illegal and put Innocent Americans in jail because the government cant respect peoples privacy (that is supposed to be protected by our Constitution)that is wrong. Some day if we continue this way we could be put in jail for coffee or a hamburger, why not they can kill you. Basically what I'm saying is if you don't know what you are doing dont use this product and if you do the research use caution.
The truth is that this substance if properly used can have the same Positive medicinal benefits of Medical Marijuana. I personally think that this has the potential of being a better option than Marijuana for many reasons. One, it is cheaper(compared to the balloned value of Marijuana). second, there are different types of this substance that effect the body/mind in different ways due to the selective affinity to the cannabinoid receptors depending on the chemical. which means it could have many medicinal values.
Third, to get the desired effect you dont have to smoke it. It can be effectivly and safely broken down into liquid form using grain alcohol (95%/v edible corn alcohol), and applied to food or your favorite drink. You just need to calculate the mixture to be able to understand the dosage. IE: 1g added to 100ml or 3.39 ounces of grain alcohol = 10mg/ml. Smoking this substance is effective but not recomended, due to the fact that you are changing the chemical composition and possibly introducing unwanted chemicals and carcinogens. not to mention is much harder to get an accurate dose due to the fact that it is active smoked at only .5mg and to accurately measure that size of dose you need a super expensive scale. cheap scales are not the way to go due to accuracy in small doses.
When taking orally an effective dose of 018 is around 10mg but is imperative to dilute in grain alcohol (using other solvent can pose a danger including rubbing alcohol DANGEROUS!)Grain alcohol is the same as potent vodka, edible but use responsibly. And just add to a drink or food like you would hash or Marijuana extracts, It takes more than smoking but has less side effects. Smoked dose equals 1-4mg "good luck measuring that" or Orally dose equals 10-20mg diluted in alcohol 1g+100ml=10mg/ml so the dose should be measured at 1-2ml. You can get a ml measuring dropper usually from any pharmacy for free or very cheap just ask the pharmacist.
That is the safest way to effectively use and measure this substance safely with no known side effects different than Marijuana IE: red eyes, munchies, short term memory, and possible anxiety. Everyone needs to understand that its not the substance that is harmful, Its the person using it. just like a gun. not everyone should have one due to mental problems, stupidity, or lack of knowledge. becaus you may harm yourself or others. But educated sane people should be allowed if they know what they are doing.
I agree that like Marijuana, alcohol, cigg's...... should be regulated in some sense to keep out of reach of children and young adults who are immature and don't know what they are doing. but to others should be a right. how is this substance or Marijuana different or more harmful than Alcohol? other than the fact that more than likely you wont loose control and beat up your wife or children like you may on alcohol. To me its a little bit of an oxymoron to say that alcohol is safe but this or marijuana isn't and people should go to jail for having it. That is just stupid propaganda made by stupid people, and supported by stupid people.
Basically, this is a human rights problem no different than slavery or segregation. IE: you can become a prisoner for possession and forced to be locked up against your will. you must pass a drug test to be able to get most jobs, yet anyone who abuses alcohol is fine and those who take prescription drugs (even if that drug is similar in effects or worse physically addictive) those are ok, no matter the side effects(some deadly). Yet these are highly discriminated against. It makes sense to me "NOT". But i guess we as a society will never be perfect. Anyone who believes that is not only stupid but a hypocrite.
Lets free America again. Back to our original values. Stop turning innocent Americans into criminals. Stop privatizing prisons/jails, definitely don't let judges benefit financially from convictions or owning a stake in a private jail. Free all Americans who are jailed for cannabinoid substances (jwh,Marijuana)."FREE AMERICA!"
I would just like to put my experiences with this product out there. I have been using Marijuana for many many years now although this product Is similar to the effects of weed it is not the same. People need to understand that like any substance (caffeine, food, alcohol,.....) If abused or mis understood/misused can have adverse potentially life threatening side effects. Always know what you are doing and use in moderation or it can be harmful
in some way..Duh!
Rather than try to make every substance on the planet Illegal and put Innocent Americans in jail because the government cant respect peoples privacy (that is supposed to be protected by our Constitution)that is wrong. Some day if we continue this way we could be put in jail for coffee or a hamburger, why not they can kill you. Basically what I'm saying is if you don't know what you are doing dont use this product and if you do the research use caution.
The truth is that this substance if properly used can have the same Positive medicinal benefits of Medical Marijuana. I personally think that this has the potential of being a better option than Marijuana for many reasons. One, it is cheaper(compared to the balloned value of Marijuana). second, there are different types of this substance that effect the body/mind in different ways due to the selective affinity to the cannabinoid receptors depending on the chemical. which means it could have many medicinal values.
Third, to get the desired effect you dont have to smoke it. It can be effectivly and safely broken down into liquid form using grain alcohol (95%/v edible corn alcohol), and applied to food or your favorite drink. You just need to calculate the mixture to be able to understand the dosage. IE: 1g added to 100ml or 3.39 ounces of grain alcohol = 10mg/ml. Smoking this substance is effective but not recomended, due to the fact that you are changing the chemical composition and possibly introducing unwanted chemicals and carcinogens. not to mention is much harder to get an accurate dose due to the fact that it is active smoked at only .5mg and to accurately measure that size of dose you need a super expensive scale. cheap scales are not the way to go due to accuracy in small doses.
When taking orally an effective dose of 018 is around 10mg but is imperative to dilute in grain alcohol (using other solvent can pose a danger including rubbing alcohol DANGEROUS!)Grain alcohol is the same as potent vodka, edible but use responsibly. And just add to a drink or food like you would hash or Marijuana extracts, It takes more than smoking but has less side effects. Smoked dose equals 1-4mg "good luck measuring that" or Orally dose equals 10-20mg diluted in alcohol 1g+100ml=10mg/ml so the dose should be measured at 1-2ml. You can get a ml measuring dropper usually from any pharmacy for free or very cheap just ask the pharmacist.
That is the safest way to effectively use and measure this substance safely with no known side effects different than Marijuana IE: red eyes, munchies, short term memory, and possible anxiety. Everyone needs to understand that its not the substance that is harmful, Its the person using it. just like a gun. not everyone should have one due to mental problems, stupidity, or lack of knowledge. becaus you may harm yourself or others. But educated sane people should be allowed if they know what they are doing.
I agree that like Marijuana, alcohol, cigg's...... should be regulated in some sense to keep out of reach of children and young adults who are immature and don't know what they are doing. but to others should be a right. how is this substance or Marijuana different or more harmful than Alcohol? other than the fact that more than likely you wont loose control and beat up your wife or children like you may on alcohol. To me its a little bit of an oxymoron to say that alcohol is safe but this or marijuana isn't and people should go to jail for having it. That is just stupid propaganda made by stupid people, and supported by stupid people.
Basically, this is a human rights problem no different than slavery or segregation. IE: you can become a prisoner for possession and forced to be locked up against your will. you must pass a drug test to be able to get most jobs, yet anyone who abuses alcohol is fine and those who take prescription drugs (even if that drug is similar in effects or worse physically addictive) those are ok, no matter the side effects(some deadly). Yet these are highly discriminated against. It makes sense to me "NOT". But i guess we as a society will never be perfect. Anyone who believes that is not only stupid but a hypocrite.
Lets free America again. Back to our original values. Stop turning innocent Americans into criminals. Stop privatizing prisons/jails, definitely don't let judges benefit financially from convictions or owning a stake in a private jail. Free all Americans who are jailed for cannabinoid substances (jwh,Marijuana)."FREE AMERICA!"
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His Name Is Frank
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Welcome to bluelight, mrmurphy. I added some much-needed paragraphs to your post. Most blrs won't read your posts when they're that long and bunched up together. Nice post, by the way.
Also, no need to double post. I noticed you posted the same thing in the JWH-250 thread. I've deleted that post.
Also, no need to double post. I noticed you posted the same thing in the JWH-250 thread. I've deleted that post.