Getting back on, not as high?

[dimethyltrypt]

Does anyone go through the same problem as me, where I take a break for a few days and when I get back on I barely get high from the normal dose it takes for me to nod? I really don't know what the fuck is up with it, but its really been bothering me. Anyone have similar experiences?

 

[dimethyltrypt]

it makes no fucking sense, im pissed

 

[Fornax55]

i guess the tolerance just takes a bit longer to return to normal.
from what i've gathered opiate tolerance never completely dwindles down either.

 

[Tommyboy]

Is this for all drugs, or a specific one in particular. Because if the drug has a long half-life, then taking it consecutive days may allow it to build up getting you higher. Taking days off may eliminate the drug from your system, which in turn does not allow build-up.

People have noticed this with valium and klonopin. Due to its long half-life, after taking it for like 3 days in a row, you may feel the effects more than day 1 or 2.

 

[John_Burrows]

It's just the way of the world once you start building tolerance. If you want to get high, you gave to take more time off.

Of course, when you're at the point where you need to take time off so you can get high again, taking time off is way hard.

More proof that god has a twisted sense of humor.

 

[dimethyltrypt]

None of these posts apply to my problem. My usual dose is 120mg oxy. I stopped taking oxy for three days. I took oxy again last night 120 mg and didnt feel nearly as high as i usually do. So what is going on here?

 

[QuasiStoned]

Is this for all drugs, or a specific one in particular. Because if the drug has a long half-life, then taking it consecutive days may allow it to build up getting you higher. Taking days off may eliminate the drug from your system, which in turn does not allow build-up.

People have noticed this with valium and klonopin. Due to its long half-life, after taking it for like 3 days in a row, you may feel the effects more than day 1 or 2.

I noticed this quite profoundly with poppy tea due to the unusually long duration. Using for 2 or even 3 days in a row would usually result in getting higher from each subsequent dose. Then when I would take a break it would take an unusually large dose a lot of the time to get me properly high. Oxy has a short enough duration that I wouldn't expect the same phenomenon but I don't have real world experience with oxy.

 

[Oppyandme]

Whats the ROA? If oral, empty or full stomach could be the difference. If you snort, it could be your technique. Or it could be something else.

A heroin addict of 40 years i met at NA once said something profound to me. Basically, everytime you take a break from opiates and then relapse, you never get it right that first time back. Like you're expecting some magical, first-time-high, nod-like experience. But instead, you get a mediocre high. That shit always happened to me. Then that 2nd time getting high you sorta get it.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Ha, you've made the classic mistake of thinking that 3 days equals recovery. NO,,,, it takes 3 days for opiates to completely leave your system - but this doesn't mean you are back to normal, no way... After the opiates have left your system, it takes at least 3 -4 days before you are anything like back to normal. Therefore, it takes at least 6 -8 days after your last dose before you can feel the full effects of your 'standard' dose. Don't believe all the 'classic' literature when it says a heroin withdrawel only lasts 3 days - this is bullshit. It takes 3 -4 days before it even starts......

 

[Nib]

Opiate withdrawals never fucking end. Sure the physical part is over in a week, but the mental can go on for years. Tolerance also takes forever to drop. It would probably take me 2 years off to be able to get high off 20mg oxy again.

 

[dimethyltrypt]

Ha, you've made the classic mistake of thinking that 3 days equals recovery. NO,,,, it takes 3 days for opiates to completely leave your system - but this doesn't mean you are back to normal, no way... After the opiates have left your system, it takes at least 3 -4 days before you are anything like back to normal. Therefore, it takes at least 6 -8 days after your last dose before you can feel the full effects of your 'standard' dose. Don't believe all the 'classic' literature when it says a heroin withdrawel only lasts 3 days - this is bullshit. It takes 3 -4 days before it even starts......

No, I didnt expect it to equal recovery. 6 inpatients, 8 outpatients, psych wards, detox's, jail, ive been through it all. But your telling me that if you take a few days break and get back on you cant get high for a few days? Well thats interesting, I did about 3/4 my usual dose today and some cimetadine and it did me pretty well. Thanks for confirming my suspicions, however, now I feel a little bit better bro.

 

[Golani]

Ha, you've made the classic mistake of thinking that 3 days equals recovery. NO,,,, it takes 3 days for opiates to completely leave your system - but this doesn't mean you are back to normal, no way... After the opiates have left your system, it takes at least 3 -4 days before you are anything like back to normal. Therefore, it takes at least 6 -8 days after your last dose before you can feel the full effects of your 'standard' dose. Don't believe all the 'classic' literature when it says a heroin withdrawel only lasts 3 days - this is bullshit. It takes 3 -4 days before it even starts......

I agree 100 %

I have taken countless "brakes" and the 3-4 day thing is spot on.

Im in the middle of a break right now actually. It sucks, but I know this weekend when I re-up life will be brighter.

 

[Jabberwocky]

None of these posts apply to my problem. My usual dose is 120mg oxy. I stopped taking oxy for three days. I took oxy again last night 120 mg and didnt feel nearly as high as i usually do. So what is going on here?

you're not giving us much to work with

did you have a full stomach, was it empty? did you use a different ROA, etc.

soemtimes these things just can't be explained.

moving over to BDD

 

[coopie]

Ha, you've made the classic mistake of thinking that 3 days equals recovery. NO,,,, it takes 3 days for opiates to completely leave your system - but this doesn't mean you are back to normal, no way... After the opiates have left your system, it takes at least 3 -4 days before you are anything like back to normal. Therefore, it takes at least 6 -8 days after your last dose before you can feel the full effects of your 'standard' dose. Don't believe all the 'classic' literature when it says a heroin withdrawel only lasts 3 days - this is bullshit. It takes 3 -4 days before it even starts......

This is my knowledge also

 

[dimethyltrypt]

you're not giving us much to work with

did you have a full stomach, was it empty? did you use a different ROA, etc.

soemtimes these things just can't be explained.

moving over to BDD

Empty stomache, same ROA, same does, same potentiators, only thing was different is I hadnt taken any opiates for 3 days before that.

 

[Joseph K.]

I cannot relate but this is what I think happened:

....substances have a tendency to build up in the system meaning, if you are taking 30m mgs whatever (it is not really 30 mgs but higher), then you stop, you withdraw for three days and take the same amount it will not be the same amount, (because of the build up you are used to higher amounts without knowing it - now this is hairy because for most the tolerance drops and you get high as kite and screwed up calculations are responsible for countless od's) but in your case the build up dropped and when you took those 30's (or whatever) it was actually much lower then what you were used to and that would explain why you were not getting off of it....does that make sense?

Again, this is exactly how so many accidental od's occur. This is just an idea of why you had this experience - tread lightly.

Joe

 

[Chrisperc]

tolerance its a godawful thing, and costly