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Cybion

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Alright I'm pretty sure of this but this is something that I want very close to 100% assurance.

in TiHKAL by Shulgin, in his Synthesis method of LSD he says "2.5 N H2SO4" and other such things now my ASSUMPTION is that 2.5 N means 2.5 Molar. Of course assuming makes an ass out of U and ME. well really just me in this case. It fits the context of everything perfectly, but I've been doing work in the chem field for a while, I'm actually a Chem major and I've never seen molar abbreviated as N.

Am I going nuts here? Perhaps I'm being a retard and overlooking something simple?

If somebody can confirm my thoughts or give me a better thought to this I'd much appreciate it, because there's no way I'm just going to assume that it means molar and go ahead with it, sulfuric acid is nothing to play around with.

Thanks,
Cybion
 
also sorry mods if this is the wrong section, I automatically assumed LSD would go in PD

move it if you so please
 
Okay wow I apologize I've seen many threads related to extraction of many different things I didn't think synthesis would be a problem, guess that shows I'm still a new guy eh?

knowing this of course it's out of pure curiosity

Mods feel free to delete this if I'm breaking rules here, sorry.
 
I hope your not actually thinking of trying to make LSD. If you can't understand simple abreviations in a chemistry book your certain to fail and most likely hurt yourself.
 
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I hope your not actually thinking of trying to make LSD. If you can't understand simple abreviations in a chemistry book your certain to fail and most likely hurt yourself.
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As was stated above this is out of curiosity, making LSD is highly dangerous and illegal and I would never attempt to blah blah.. yeah

I'm actually very skilled in chemistry, but any time I've ever seen normal used instead of molarity it's been written out as normal instead of abbreviated N. I suppose my mind should have made the connection but it didn't which is fine sometimes. But of course I would never do anything without being 100% sure about something. Though as I said, I know what normal is and what it means etc etc etc, I had just never seen it abbreviated, normal isn't used all that much, most chemists, myself included, much prefer to use molarity.

Of course this is all hypothetical.

Besides, making LSD is really not all that hard or dangerous, I'm not sure why people tend to get the idea that it is, if you have any kind of decent experience with chemistry look at TiHKAL, you'll see that the process is quite simple, the only thing truly dangerous is ergot or maybe sulfuric acid.

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sorry this is talking about synth again.
 
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Is the LSD synth hard by the standards of organic chemistry? Certainly not.

Is it hard compared to reacting an off-the-shelf benzaldehyde with nitromethane from model-racing-fuel, reducing it, and then brominating the result? Or isomerizing safrole, oxidizing it, and reductively aminating it? Or HI/RP reduction of pfed? Absolutely! It's a whole other level of complexity, tedium, and twitchiness compared to other drugs - and that's once you get the precursors, which is a much more of a pain than any other synthetic drug I can think of.
 
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