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The EADD aMT Thread

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Looking at getting some of this to take to the secret garden party? Would it be a wise idea to try it there for the first time, sounds like maybe you need to experiment a bit to get the doses right. Are low doses any fun just to get you a bit tripped out for the day?
 
I ended up taking the whole 250mg+ in 24 hours in small increments which was stupid I guess. Was extrememly fucked by then, everything went orange then purple and watching the clouds was a spectacle. Everything was breathing as well. Found it to be pretty damn mongy though.
Not too much of a comedown except a bit spaced out, hope I feel better tomorrow no tuesday blues bollocks. would do again but I'm staying off drugs for the time being because I was meant to see family but ended up too fucked so I feel guilty as fuck now. I have addictive personality so not the best idea really.
It's hard to hide, my face looked fucked beyond belief and my eyes were worse than meph probably. that's bound to happen with high doses though.
 
botfly said:
I ended up taking the whole 250mg+ in 24 hours in small increments which was stupid I guess. Was extrememly fucked by then, everything went orange then purple and watching the clouds was a spectacle. Everything was breathing as well. Found it to be pretty damn mongy though.
Not too much of a comedown except a bit spaced out, hope I feel better tomorrow no tuesday blues bollocks. would do again but I'm staying off drugs for the time being because I was meant to see family but ended up too fucked so I feel guilty as fuck now. I have addictive personality so not the best idea really.
It's hard to hide, my face looked fucked beyond belief and my eyes were worse than meph probably. that's bound to happen with high doses though.
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jeez... 250mg+ in 24 hours?

i'd be thankful that you only feel a bit spaced out
 
yes it was a bit retarded. I did it in tiny bits every hour or two. was pretty fun:D warping and monged out euphoria, was probably mongy because I had a few beers with it and stayed up all night though. Wouldn't take that much again obviously. Felt forgiving though and not too toxic.Just enjoyed the trippyness wanted to see how trippy it got, the sky was amazing lol. Not one for public outings though i don't think, unless you stick to real small doses. you'll just be looking at the sky all the time.
 
^^ 250 mg! Just seems wasteful (that's a good 5 trips). Despite stimulating properties, to me this is a psychedelic and deserves a bit more respect than the average stimulant (rather it's your psyche that deserves the respect).

While amt is a fairly gentle psychedeilc, everyone's mind is unique and can react unpredicatably to these sorts of substances. Like any psychedelic substance, new users should start with small amounts and increase gradually (in later sessions) to a comfortable level - for some this may still be low doses, for some higher.

- that sounds a bit preachy doesn't it? - i just worry about young rc users reading these threads who started with meph and nrgx, trying amt ("it says it's like mdma!") boshing it like meph, and not being prepared for the psychedelic experience.

(no that is patronising isn't it - i suppose if you read it and feel patronised, then it's propbably worth putting up (why would you care what i think unless you were worth patronising?))
 
pychedelics generally don't work very well with gradual redosing like that, using 250mg in that fashion I'd say most of it will have been completely wasted. High doses on their nown can be very good though, I have worked up to 100mg doses without any major side effects but obviously YMMV.
 
I have had no drugs since the 6-APB 2 weeks ago.
Measured out 40mg (the bag was slightly over what I ordered) on my new scales, plugged it.

Pretty soon after was yawning and had a pain behind my eyes and in forehead.
Overwhelming desire to lay in bed, lots of CEV's on closing eyes.
Was thinking I would feel better in an hour or 2 and get up but felt awful and stayed in bed all that afternoon and the next morning.

Still had head ache and pain behind eyes and the shits.
Had the shits all that day and last night and still have them.

I have never reacted like this before to any drug including amt f/b.

Food just goes straight through me.
Any household remedies would be appreciated as I have not got the strenght to go out.
Took all the strneght to turn pc on and type this. Gonna lay down again.
 
^ very strange - would be interested to hear if other users experienced this as nearly all other reports on here have been very positive (including those @ 40mg).

Did you feel any stimulation / euphoria (despite feeling shit) ?
 
No stimulation, felt very tired, even moreso than with the freebase.
Just had to lay down.

I expected the euphoria to build over a couple of hours but but never noticed it as I was laying in bed with my eyes closed as light hurt them.

The CEV's were amusing, not disturbing at all.
Still have a headache and upset stomach every 1/2 hour.

I read through the other posts and see nobody else got this so I must have just reacted badly to it.

Gonna try to eat something.
 
Seems reports are somewhat mixed on this batch but with far more positive than negative, I'd say. Makes sense really cos aMT really isn't everybody's cuppa tea. Some seem to suffer with physical unpleasantness way more than others, some more sedated than stimulated, some get more of the trippy/visual side. Very much a YMMV thing.

I just nommed 35mg about half an hour ago so will see what I see. I did, however, give a sample or two out to a coupla people and was interesting how different their experience was on the same dose (35mg). One of them was completely off his box, deep in conversation with his dog at one point, and generally loving it for a loooooong time. The other had nausea and the shits for the first 3-4 hours but felt mostly sedated until the 8 hour mark when he noticed a bit of trippiness developing but said it was pretty mild and didn't last long other than the gutache which lasted throughout for him. He said it had potential but would need to find his sweet dose and really didn't like the GI stuff. I may try to convert some of my HCl to freebase for comparison at some point.

Will let y'all know how the evening pans out as and when but can feel the beginnings of a tryptamine-type slightly mongy dreaminess and body buzz starting and a hint of stomach bloat. Did notice a smidge of freebase left on me foil though so puffed that as a primer first - was no more than 5mg so shouldn't make a huge difference though.
 
Keep us posted Shambles. I was going to reacquaint myself with this RC tomorrow after a 30+ year break (yep, first discovered it back in '76...) but now my wife tells me that we are having new windows fitted so the trip will be postponed. Funny how life's priorities change over the years.
 
Nice positive mood lift, not the day after but the second day after. Respect due to AMT. Might try a lower dose and rectal admin next time.
 
yeah, rectal does away with the nausea.

I have a theory (which hopefully shambles can either validate or ridicule), but it is based on no science whatsoever, just my own experiences.

Normally, I go without food for about half a day and proclaim I have an empty stomach ready for oral doses. Most of the time this is accurate, but with heavy carbs such as rice and pasta, this isn't true. These digest very slowly for me so when I dose orally on top of these, the substance gets absorbed into the food stuff which in turn gets absorbed as slowly as rice/pasta does. Essentially therefore, with AMT, you're on the constant come-up, without every really achieving levels in your blood to 'breakthrough'.

Thoughts? - no science really, just my conclusions when I've had very different experiences of the same substance/dose/ROA/batch .....
 
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anyone got any idea what causes the stomach bloat? and how to avoid it?
 
I NUK3D U said:
These digest very slowly for me so when I dose orally on top of these, the substance gets absorbed into the food stuff which in turn gets absorbed as slowly as rice/pasta does. Essentially therefore, with AMT, you're on the constant come-up, without every really achieving levels in your blood to 'breakthrough'.

Thoughts? - no science really, just my conclusions when I've had very different experiences of the same substance/dose/ROA/batch .....
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I would tend to agree with this based on my one experience. I had eaten beforehand (about three or four hours beforehand) and the first dose of 35mg didn't feel like it broke through as much I was expecting based on what people were saying. The second dose of 15mg really put it over the edge euphoria wise (in a FANTASTIC way!), but not visually speaking.

I also think the bloating I got was caused by the food, coupled with the beer. Makes sense really.

Next time, I'm going to try an initial 40mg dose on a completely empty stomach and see how that goes. I really want to breakthrough with this stuff (although I do think I kind of did already), because what I saw really was just incredible! Just not as intense as some people make it out to be.

One thing I would say, don't fear aMT. It's a beautiful, soft-natured experience in many ways and the anti-depressant tone means you are just in the perfect mood to push the boundaries unlike anything else I've ever had. Honestly, my new favourite <3
 
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anyone got any idea what causes the stomach bloat? and how to avoid it?
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You are probably not going to like the avoidance administration protocol=D

Although I should have mine tomorrow as it didnt turn up today and I'm going to go with rectal method. First timer so better hunt down some vaseline lol
 
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I drunk mine in a tiny bit of water about 6 hours after food - i didn't get any bloaty feelings or nausea - a couple of minor rumbles early on (hardly noticeable).

I'm still feeling a little mood lift from it 4 days later (nice change from 4 days after md).

I get the feeling that it isn't likely to bring on a full breaking-through experience (depersonalisation/ego-loss/entities) like some psychs; even at higher doses (similarly to doing md with lsd, the extra released serotonin seems to ground the ego somewhat). I could be wrong though (i'll find out as i up the dose)
 
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