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Phenazepam Wont Dissolve In Propylene Glycol

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Greetings Fellow Science Wizards,

I have Mixed 10 Mg of Phenazepam with 10 Ml of Propylene Glycol in the attempt of making a 1 Mg per ML solution. However, I cannot get the Phenazepam to dissolve in the Prop-G. It appears that the particles of Phenazepam are visibly held in suspension by the Fluid (prop-g).

Has Anyone run into this problem before?? If so whats my next step???

Thanks.
 
I've been meaning to ask about this for a while, what's the best substance to dissolve phenazepam in? I think I read somewhere on here that ISO can work if a bit of heat is applied, anyone confirm this?
 
Ok here is what I did.
Got 1g.
Got 1Litre of top gade prop gly.
Took a shot glass and poured in all the powder and a little pg.
Poured the rest of pg into a clean litre vodka bottle.
Poured in shot and shook. Didn't mix.
Took a 100ml glass bottle filled with the non-mixed solution and put in microwave on minimum for 4 mins, took out and put on top and shook. Within 2 mins it was clear.
I stuck the rest in the fridge and used the 100ml clear solution, and haven't used all of that yet.

Obviously you can see what to do from here on in.
And get good oral syringes to measure the dose, pop into a shot glass of water and drink.

Choose your own amount, but try not over 2mg every 4 hours and aim for a 3 day not taking period, cos this fucker really looks like it can sneak up on you.
 
Use everclear if you can get it. High proof alcohol works fine. If you can't buy everclear where you live I'd assume bacardi 151 would work too.
 
Thanks for that BrokenBrain :)

Also found the post stating how soluble it is in ISO;

CloudyHazeD said:
I just used 99% isopropyl alcohol (lab grade).

Took about 10 minutes of stirring and a slight amount of heat. For heat, I used a coffee maker hot plate.

200mL of IPA and 500mg phenazepam = 2.5mg/mL

Just took my first one mL dose. I hope to be quite relaxed soon.........
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It is unreccomended to use microwave to dissolve your product. Microwaves have the potential of chemically changing substances, in fact they have been recently used to perform some chemical reactions.

If you are sure that u have pure phenazepam then give it time to dissolve. 1mg per ml is more than enough, benzodiazepines are not readily soluble in PG, it will take some time and some occasinal heating for it to dissolve evenly.
Probably the powder you got is a bit thick and needs some extra time to perfectly dissolve.
 
Right so if I dissolve 100mg Phenazepam in 100ml Isopropyl Alcohol, apply some heat and stir I should have 1mg of Phenazepam per ml of ISO.

Where I am getting confused is how do I consume the stuff once its in solution?
I was under the impression that the consumption of Isopropyl Alcohol was dangerous and potentially fatal.

Only other options I can think of right now are:

Measure out desired amount of the solution and evaporate off the ISO to be left with your desired dose of Phenazepam?

The possibility that drinking a few ml of Isopropyl Alcohol wont be detrimental to my health.

And ummm diluting the solution in water (Like you do with GBL).
 
If you need to add heat but don't have serious heat-resistant glassware, you can get a pot of water boiling and put another vessel over it.
 
I know this thread is sort of oldish but...

wanted to know if instead of something like Everclear I can use 80% bottle of hard liquor (160 = highest legal proof where I come from). will the phenazepam dissolve properly?
 
Anyone any idea how long prop g stays fresh for, and what the best storage conditions are? I won't be able to use a fridge. Maybe best to do in small batches.

Also is there any potential problem of applying too much heat to the prop g?
 
I'm kind of confused, what's the point in doing this if you're just going to eat/drink the liquid?

I figured you guys were trying to prep the stuff for IV/IM... guess not?
 
It's active at sub mg doses, so it's by far the easiest way to measure it.
 
I am sorry for resurrection this post..after searching around bluelight, I am trying to figure this out.

i dont have an mg scale..considering getting 1 but they are madd loot.

Anyway, for dosing accuracy it seems like everyones using Isopropyl Alcohol to mix the phenaz with.

Here is my questions (lets say i have 100mg phenaz)

#1, once I combine the 100mg phenaz with 100mg Iso Alc. and dissolve completely. Firstly, how do you measure the 100mg iso alc (in a beaker or somnething)?

#2 once the solutino is totally combined, and it's 1mg phenaz per 1ml iso, how do you go abotu measuring 1ml, 2mg, etc.. at once of ISO/phen combo? Is here a dropper ro something of some type? Or some other method? I assume 1ml is pretty small amount of liquit

#3 I am assuming I could dissolve 100mg phenaz into 200mg iso alco and it would result in 1mg/2ml iso alc right?

Thanks eveveryone..

Thers SO much talk of phenaz, I just ordered off a popular auction site..from 2 diff dudes so we'll see what happens. hope it aint bunk cause my research is important lol.
 
stuckinaloop said:
I am sorry for resurrection this post..after searching around bluelight, I am trying to figure this out.

i dont have an mg scale..considering getting 1 but they are madd loot.

Anyway, for dosing accuracy it seems like everyones using Isopropyl Alcohol to mix the phenaz with.

Here is my questions (lets say i have 100mg phenaz)

#1, once I combine the 100mg phenaz with 100mg Iso Alc. and dissolve completely. Firstly, how do you measure the 100mg iso alc (in a beaker or somnething)?

#2 once the solutino is totally combined, and it's 1mg phenaz per 1ml iso, how do you go abotu measuring 1ml, 2mg, etc.. at once of ISO/phen combo? Is here a dropper ro something of some type? Or some other method? I assume 1ml is pretty small amount of liquit

#3 I am assuming I could dissolve 100mg phenaz into 200mg iso alco and it would result in 1mg/2ml iso alc right?

Thanks eveveryone..

Thers SO much talk of phenaz, I just ordered off a popular auction site..from 2 diff dudes so we'll see what happens. hope it aint bunk cause my research is important lol.
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Remember that you need 99% pure isopropyl alcohol, not the lower concentrations you can buy at Walgreens or somewhere like that.

Also, be sure to measure the volume of the final product to know the concentration in case some of the alcohol evaporates.
 
dokomo said:
Remember that you need 99% pure isopropyl alcohol, not the lower concentrations you can buy at Walgreens or somewhere like that.

Also, be sure to measure the volume of the final product to know the concentration in case some of the alcohol evaporates.
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so what type of instument are you using to measure the 100ml iso prop alc? a cylindrical measuring tube..some lab equipment?

I am just wondering if I need to order and "accessory" with my phenaz to properly measure out doses..while avoiding a 200 scale
 
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