Beat Loops...when tripping?

[Astro-Weezy]

I'm not sure if others have had this kind of experience, it usually occurs when at a bush doof for me. Either during the night when the psy is Full on / GOA or late in the after noon. Ideally it's just when the music is Bangin with not much psychedlic change like with psybient style.

My brain tends to get distracted with the music, and it feels like the beat never changes....and gets caught in a sound loop I guess you could say. It sometimes reflects as Déjà vu from previous experiences like this with the music. The music tends to change now and then according to my mind when I try and focus on it.

Mind you this isn't easy for me to explain by typing, however if you can understand what I mean, I would be interested to know the hows and whys?

It isn't necessarily a bad thing, it can just be confusing and I find it hard to let loose and dance sometimes because I am caught up in this confusing beat.

Any thoughts?

 

[Jesusgreen]

I can't speak for psychedelics since my only psychedelic experience is 4-AcO-DMT and I did not really experience that on it, however I have had the same thing when I was really stoned. When I wasn't paying attention to the music it just seemed like a repeating beat in the background, I had to pay full attention to it and nothing else to hear the actual tune of the song - it was quite weird and I've only experienced it a couple of times, I'd definitely be interested in hearing if other people have had the same thing and if so with what drug/s.

 

[dc710]

I get this on psychedelics combined with nitrous. The music can get stuck in a loop which is very real to me at the time. Like it changes the song somehow. Can feel like your stuck in this loop as well

 

[Astro-Weezy]

Can feel quite real indeed, I have experienced with nitrous also combined with psychedelics. It has sometimes been the beginning of getting stuck in a loop in general, sometimes it's just the music though.

A quite intelligent friend of mine mentioned something about it, how it's possible that your brain is making you think so fast ahead it's creates your mind or something to do these kind of loops. I will get reference from him, so I can explain what he said when I see him. Though still quite interested in those that might know teh whys and hows in detail? / Other experiences.

 

[f1ct]

it's remarkable how casually a user of a psychedelics will make reference to being stuck in a time loop...

'oh, you know, when you're stuck in a loop in time? the same things happen over and over?'

strong stuff, indeed...

 

[Astro-Weezy]

it's remarkable how casually a user of a psychedelics will make reference to being stuck in a time loop...

'oh, you know, when you're stuck in a loop in time? the same things happen over and over?'

strong stuff, indeed...

For sure, though I'm not actually caring so much for a time loop as you mentioned. I'm interested in beat loops, as I can have them without a time loop!

 

[nopipesdfw]

My brain tends to get distracted with the music, and it feels like the beat never changes....and gets caught in a sound loop I guess you could say. It sometimes reflects as Déjà vu from previous experiences like this with the music. The music tends to change now and then according to my mind when I try and focus on it.

I dunno what you were taking at those festivals, but I can completely relate to what you have just described when I do nos + psychedelics.

Can feel quite real indeed, I have experienced with nitrous also combined with psychedelics. It has sometimes been the beginning of getting stuck in a loop in general, sometimes it's just the music though.

A quite intelligent friend of mine mentioned something about it, how it's possible that your brain is making you think so fast ahead it's creates your mind or something to do these kind of loops. I will get reference from him, so I can explain what he said when I see him. Though still quite interested in those that might know teh whys and hows in detail? / Other experiences.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Passing out on nitrous and a psych together always makes for FUCKING CRAZY SHIT to start happening in such an impossibly realistic and manic way that I don't know where to start describing the shit that goes on.

To be honest, I have no fucking clue what happens does at this point. After countless cases of whippets almost exclusively on psychs (Nitrous + anything else potentiates it imo, but the experience is not cumulative every time, ill explain) the amount of stuff going on during this part of the whippet seems to stack up to be even more grandiose every time. I dunno if my mind is just ready and geared to fucking blow my mind better than previously, but I wish I could explain how insanely and exponentially my visuals, sense of time, place, and delusions whilst intoxicated tie together and expand every time I do it. I also get pulsating visuals around a focal point that keep on expanding or pulsing in complete loops around objects. The content of these super detailed patterns is ridiculous now and seems to have picked new friends every time. The Rolling Stones (I don't like them, no clue) tongue is most prominent. All kinds of national flags, eyes, moons, and suns and way more that I can't remember come together to form the most detailed concepts, rivaling DMT fractals. The best artists, physicists, architects and whoever else you want couldn't recreate this on the same level of scales and appeared accuracy of these happenings. I have gotten physically + mentally used to a lot of drugs that include psychedelics and dissociatives far too well, but nitrous has me astonished by the rush and then subsequently tripped out passed the point of where I was before every time.

The paragraph above might make me look like a nitrous head trying to justify further use, but it really does happen every single time if I'm tripping and have a case to blow through. Maybe I am a nitrous head and that much nitrous is not justified, but holy shit!

 

[Astro-Weezy]

I dunno what you were taking at those festivals, but I can completely relate to what you have just described when I do nos + psychedelics.

My main consumptions at these festivals usually vary, though have expired it on these.

2c-e
mushrooms
lsd

I do believe it's when I take strong doses of each though. I have just reconciled with my self not too always go for intense trips, I kinda have from the beginning of my psychedelics.... I just know want to see what happens on lower doses for me. Though I always know I can take more if need be.


Nitrous for me....god I wish I knew how I could explain my visuals on that stuff....I will try and come up with some nice descriptive words for explaining those sometime in the future...but I love them anyway....really nice fractal visuals when standing in front of the speaker stack at a festival. However the fractal visualizations from nitrous can give me a somewhat Déjà vu head spin.


Anyway it was interesting what you wrote, cheers

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

This is why I rarely use Lucy at free parties, fucking random shizzle Glad to know its not just me, thought I was stuck there forever HaHaHa.

PS; I also only get this effect when I do Nitrous under the influence of Psyche's; Dissociation Vs. Psychedelia !

 

[malakaix]

My understanding of 'loops' is the mind struggling with the concept of 'infinity' and through an attempt to rationalize this concept, the loop manifests in the form of your surrounding reality and thoughts.

As for your original question; i've been going to Doofs frequently for the past 3 years.. i can relate where you mention the beat seems as though it never changes unless you focus in on it. This in my opinion is the beauty of Psy/GOA.. it's very much a continuous beat with subtle changes.. which are amplified and enhanced through psychedelics. 'Good' Dark Psytrance, and i emphasize the word good.. is unbelievable in its complexity and mechanical structure when listened too on psychedelics, you'll pickup the inner most subtle changes on a cellular level which act as such an integral part of the entire tracks makeup.

 

[organicmusic]

To me Psy/Goa music almost always seems like it doesn't change. Sober or not.

Listen to it sober some time and you'll hear that is truly is very repetitive.

 

[Mugz]

I do get something similar whilst tripping or on a drug like MDMA. Is hard to describe but I would listen to music intensely and hear all of the different layers, I could make my own music just from focusing on the different layers of the music that was playing.

A lot of the time now though, even when sober I can hear similar sorts of loops. I have come to the conclusion though that I am just dissecting the song and focusing on the bass for instance, rather than one of the other layers. The bass part of some tunes does just repeat itself for the whole tune so it can sometimes seam like a loop.

 

[Further86]

Ive had this happen many a time especially when combing LSD and 4-ACO-DMT. I've also found it can happen with speech if several people are speaking at once.

 

[Zodiakk]

I'm not sure if others have had this kind of experience, it usually occurs when at a bush doof for me. Either during the night when the psy is Full on / GOA or late in the after noon. Ideally it's just when the music is Bangin with not much psychedlic change like with psybient style.

My brain tends to get distracted with the music, and it feels like the beat never changes....and gets caught in a sound loop I guess you could say. It sometimes reflects as Déjà vu from previous experiences like this with the music. The music tends to change now and then according to my mind when I try and focus on it.

Mind you this isn't easy for me to explain by typing, however if you can understand what I mean, I would be interested to know the hows and whys?

It isn't necessarily a bad thing, it can just be confusing and I find it hard to let loose and dance sometimes because I am caught up in this confusing beat.

Any thoughts?

Yes, I can relate. If you refer to my post "Never underestimate salvia", I was listening to corey smith's 'Fuck the Popo', and the words "Fuck the popo" became [quote on quote-ish]:
'Like a wizard's spell, as the chant of "Fuck the popo" repeated. Of course at the time, I couldn't understand english words'

 

[malakaix]

Listen to it sober some time and you'll hear that is truly is very repetitive.

This is however, the idea. Repetition is key with inducing trance-like states.

Once your in a trance state, your no longer paying direct attention to the music, your flowing with it in a state of perfect unity, where your imagination is boundless and you step into the realm of infinity.

 

[Splitz]

I never got this beat-loop thing, but like someone else said I get something a little similar when stoned.

Not quite the same, but it feels like each section of the song, doesn't matter what genre, goes on for like half an hour. Damn slow time perception, enjoyable though.

 

[theferryman]

yeah i know what you mean, i have had it where it seems as if the music that I am hearing is just on repeat but i get variations in the music as i alter my movement so it can be paralising if im at an intense party or just plain gd fun if im round mates XD

 

[cssss]

I always get this when I trip on mushies and listen to dubstep or drum and bass, its like the soundtrack to my trip is a fat beat on loop

 

[Aloysius]

Has anyone ever observed something similar, after dancing all night (effect was esp. strong after taking MDMA once), random noise sources sound like music? not melodic music, just a trance-y beat.

i remember wainting on the train to take us back home early in the morning, a train came by without stopping. in the quiet of the morning it was as if a pair of speakers came by...

.....du du DU DU DUM ts DUM tsss DUM ts DUM Tsss dum dum du du .......

maybe i was just tired that morning, tripped out by all the drugs, whatever, but i've noticed this also after going to concerts on only alcohol

as if your mind is wired into perceiving beats.

sorry to be off-topic, maybe the temporary re-wiring of your brain after intense exposure to music causes you to turn off the actual content, turning it into the beat loops you describe?

like the way your ears tune out the ringing after a while, or your eyes ignore hppd-esque things after some months?