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muffin_man

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Hey guys,

I was doing some research on MDMA to really see the full effects of it but I'm a bit puzzled so i want to hear some experienced users.

The thing is I have been involved with the dance music scene for about 8 years now, pretty much all my friends do E and various other drugs, but I have never given in and tried anything.

I am hesitant to try because I was told I have a "weird" heart-beat pattern as a kid. I am 23 now but I was never checked to see if I officially have an irregular heartbeat. It does beat a bit weird though, even the blood pressure machines take forever to measure because of it and it always gives me some ridicolously random numbers.

However, I have been a very active athlete my whole life and I have never ever head any heart related problems while playing all the sports that I played.

I have also been smoking for the past year and a half now, about 10 Camel Wides a day and I notice no significant heart pattern changes so I have been thinking about trying MDMA for the first time.

I just wanted to see if any of you guys have ran into someone with a similar condition to mine that tried MDMA, or if you think I should stay away from it just to be safe. But if it isn't really a huge concern then I don't wanna shy away from it because I would love to experience it.

With that said I am a 23 year old male, 6'5" // 200 lbs. So I'm thinking if I just take 1 pill for the first time, given my size, it would probably be a really small dose and I would not feel the effects as much. But given my condition I'm not sure if it's safe to do since it increases your heart rate.

In your experience, how much increase of heart rate did you experience? (compared to cigarettes for example)

Any feedback is appreciated and apologies for another noob thread. I know it gets old...
 
Are your friends regular drug users? If you want to try MDMA, make sure you do it in small doses if its your first experience its very intense and make sure your in the right frame of mind, e.g if your hasty, worried or paranoid when ou take it the probability of a bad experience is quite high. I would recommend being around someone who has tried the drug and knows what the effects are and how to deal with them. If you have an irregular heart beat then taking a heart stimulant is not a very good idea.

Hope this has helped.
 
Revilo Elgoc said:
Are your friends regular drug users? If you want to try MDMA, make sure you do it in small doses if its your first experience its very intense and make sure your in the right frame of mind, e.g if your hasty, worried or paranoid when ou take it the probability of a bad experience is quite high. I would recommend being around someone who has tried the drug and knows what the effects are and how to deal with them. If you have an irregular heart beat then taking a heart stimulant is not a very good idea.

Hope this has helped.
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They are regular users at major events. I'd say they do it maybe a couple times a month but have been for years. There are stretches where they do it way more, depending on the amount of events going on.

Interesting you mentioned the state of mind issue, because, I mean, the reason why I'm here is because I'm worried that if I do take it it might mess with me more than I'd like. But of course that depends on other's experiences with a similar condition to mine.

Thank you for your reply!
 
I wouldn't say having the wrong mindset before rolling gives a high proability of a bad experience. It might be higher than if you were in a good mindset but not so high that if you are in a bad mood you can expect a bad experience. I have seen many people in piss poor mindest have great rolls.

I would even venture to say that the risk of a bad experience with MDMA is far less than with any other drug I have done and I never had a bad experience with MDMA myself. The only bad experiences were when I got something in a pill that wasn't MDXX or MDxx mixed with something else.

The common benchmark here is that if you are medically cleared for moderate exercise then your heart and body should be healthy enough for moderate MDMA use. Now we are not doctors so we can't tell you for sure but if you are healthy enough for sports you should be healthy enough for MDMA.
 
I can't really give you advice in regards to your heart issues but I just popped E for the first time this past weekend and it's definitely pretty intense (at least the first time). My advice would be to definitely do your homework on the particular pill you are getting (PR.com etc). Make sure its high in MDxx and doesn't have any ketamine/meth/pipes etc etc. The last thing anyone with a heart condition would want is a super stim like meth in their pill. I'd also advice to just pop 1/2 (if its a good, clean pill), you can always take more but you sure as hell cannot take less. Also, make sure you give it some time to really peak out b4 you go poppin more. I made the mistake of thinkin it should kick in within like 45 mins and popped another half (on top of the full one i originally took) and like 2 mins later I was rolling complete balls (obviously, just from that first one) so when the other .5 kicked in, it was a bit much lol..


Anyway, do you homework, start LOW and go from there. Good luck and have fun!
 
boltfan909 said:
I can't really give you advice in regards to your heart issues but I just popped E for the first time this past weekend and it's definitely pretty intense (at least the first time). My advice would be to definitely do your homework on the particular pill you are getting (PR.com etc). Make sure its high in MDxx and doesn't have any ketamine/meth/pipes etc etc. The last thing anyone with a heart condition would want is a super stim like meth in their pill. I'd also advice to just pop 1/2 (if its a good, clean pill), you can always take more but you sure as hell cannot take less. Also, make sure you give it some time to really peak out b4 you go poppin more. I made the mistake of thinkin it should kick in within like 45 mins and popped another half (on top of the full one i originally took) and like 2 mins later I was rolling complete balls (obviously, just from that first one) so when the other .5 kicked in, it was a bit much lol..


Anyway, do you homework, start LOW and go from there. Good luck and have fun!
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this horrible advice to give someone thats got a conditon and is worried about it. and i dont even know how u lasted on 2 pills and 500mgs of molly on yer first time.

first off this your first time, find some clean pills(mdma) u dont need MDxx high pills(i like MDMA high fuck xx). just clean pills maybe mdma medium and pop just one pill and feel it out dont re-dose!

Enjoy the roll u get dont do more cuz u never know if u will like the itensity of it.

If u like the experience then do i again if not then at lest u tried it and gotta good enough buzz to of really experience it:D
 
If your parienod about your heart now then don't do it. If you decide to do it then do it with close friends a nice chill enviermont (e-tarted today) idgaf about my spelling lol..
 
MDMA can increase blood pressure and heart rate - now if you already have a dodgy heart then is it worth it?

That being said - if your a fit and healthy guy and have no problems with your heart whilst doing sports then your heart rate will not be increased any higher than it would if you were working out.

The main concern now is making sure you get MDMA - if you get any of the common adulterants like meth, speed or piperazines then your blood pressure/heart rate could be considerably higher for a longer period of time.

IF you want to try it then the safest way would be check out your pills, test your gear and start off with a low dose. I would suggest a home setting where your comfortable and not at a rave when dancing etc.

A trip to the doctors to get your heart checked out wouldnt do any harm either - you never know it could be fine now.
 
Great feedback guys, appreciate your time.

You guys made a good point about the heart rate being high while doing sports so a really low dose of clean MDMA shoudln't be a problem. It's just that since I've never done, I don't know how much it effects the heart rate. I've done some insane stuff in sports where my heart rate was insane, but since that gets the heart pumping in a different way...well, yea.

Anyways, I think I will do a really small amount of MDMA when I get the chance, and I will come back to let you all know how it went.

Once again, appreciate the replies! Great forum.

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