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Stimulants Adderall Tolerance issues overblown?

Depressicaa

Depressicaa

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I think that Adderall tolerance is way overblown.

It isn't anything as bad as people say it is. The only times that Adderall stops being useful is after I've been up for several days. Thats when it stops being fun, and doesn't even keep me up. I took a break for four days and it was stimulating at even a very low dosage.

I used to religiously take Magnesium everyday, but now I think that it doesn't really help with tolerance at all. It seems to help with sleep and the side effects of Adderall but in no way did I feel my Adderall tolerance get higher when I didn't take it.

L-Tyrosine seems to be a nice addition to it, and doesn't overstimulate me as many people claim it does (not calling them liars just doesn't do that for me).

Baking soda can always re-stimulate me if there are any amphetamines left in my system, and seems to be useful for feeling a little boost.

I'm taking a low maintenance dose everyday, and it doesn't seem to get any better or worst. I'm taking sub-euphoric levels several times per day, but a regular euphoric dose still works for me.

Your thoughts?
 
I would take a break from adderall and switch to another type of adhd med like ritalin or concert or daytrana or even try dextrostat and see if there is any difference. Sometimes, ur brain just needs to rest.
 
U are taking theraputic doses. If you take theraputic doses (mostly) ur tolerance will rise much slower. Take 50 or 60 mg a day for a month. Bet you will notice a whole bunch of tolerance then.
 
^Right, Dextrostat is definitely NOT another name for adderall. Another name for another prescribed stim? Yes. Also, 'yes' there will be cross tolerance. Still, switching it up is ALWAYS a good idea, in terms of reducing or at least (not as quickly) rising tolerance.

On your main point. I find that tolerance DOES in fact go up quickly, and it doesn't go away easily - for example, taking a week break as you suggest (4-5 days). My tolerance went from 30 (my starting dose - with NO stim history) to 75-90 mg in 3 weeks. I find that when I run out of my script I'm insane, a fiend. When I get my script back (after a week or 2 w/o) I need to at least start where I left off - etc., and again.
-Perhaps you're a lucky rare one.
 
Oh sorry, I take Dexedrine as well so I thought we were talking about that. My apologies!

I don't know why anyone would take that much, wouldn't that cause you to not sleep, or is that another part of the tolerance spectrum? The first time I took an Adderall IR by Corepharma (XR for whatever reason did not do this), I couldn't sleep for about a day and just decided to binge.

After that 4 day binge that didn't rely on numbers, just 'enough' to stay awake I took a four day break, figuring that the half life of amphetamines would mean that it was gone. I was either right, or just a lucky guy, or maybe I am getting too little Adderall. %)

Dexedrine never kept me awake, instead it gave me some awful crashes and was too smooth IMO to have any real effect for me.
 
I only take that much because, simply, any less and it does nothing for me. I feel very 'calm' when I take about 75 mg (that's perfect - mores is better but not necessary) and am able to get things done. I was prescribed XR and am currently in the process of switching to IR. This is because indeed it IS impossible to fall asleep (I take benzos at night - yep, I know it's a bad idea to up during the day and balance with downers at night: did I mention I also take opiates throughout the day as I'm an addict). I'm hoping the IR makes it easier to fall asleep and am currently lowering my benzo frequency.

Regarding the Dexedrine: I'd rather avoid that crash. I'd love to test it out but don't think I want to experience that.

**My doctor keeps INSISTING that adderall IR does not exist (I am maddened and shocked at this).
 
Have you considered saying that its cheaper and your insurance says that they don't want to help you pay for the XR?

Most people have a better experience with Dexedrine, and they say they experience no crashes. Don't take me as the generic example!

If anything, you can always crush up the XR beads. I find XR stronger, but CorePharma is just an awful brand (maybe its just the shitty brand thats ruining it).
 
(I do crush my XR beads) - I want the IR so that doesn't have to be done. Most docs just like to start you out on XR's. The problem is that he (the Doctor) really sincerely believes there ARE no IR Adderalls (that they do not exist 'anywhere'-not created). I MIGHT try and ask him about switching to dexedrine. The problem is that I have no idea what dose is equivalent to where I'm at (and he's obviously clueless).
 
120mg of Adderall has roughly the same effect on me that 10mgs of Adderall has on people with no Amphetamine tolerance. & I can't really feel any effects from Adderall at all if I take 80mg or less at a time.

So, yeah, I'd have to disagree.
 
I agree!
after being up for a couple days on dexedrine I stop getting any positive effects
after sleeping and waiting a couple days rest effects are almost full again
 
Woamotive its not very hard try to ask for the equivilent dose. I know that Adderall 30XR has about 18.x(3?) mg amphetamines while Dexedrine 15mg has... 15 haha. I find that I have to take more Dexedrine to feel any effect though, Adderall is also physically stimulating (but I like it I guess, most people don't).

TheFDA said:
120mg of Adderall has roughly the same effect on me that 10mgs of Adderall has on people with no Amphetamine tolerance. & I can't really feel any effects from Adderall at all if I take 80mg or less at a time.

So, yeah, I'd have to disagree.
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What is roughly the effect that it has on you? I'm not sure what you mean when you say no effect from 80mg. Do you get insomnia?

iameatingjam said:
I agree!
after being up for a couple days on dexedrine I stop getting any positive effects
after sleeping and waiting a couple days rest effects are almost full again
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Thanks!
My experience with Adderall is that it is better to stay up on since you feel energetic and not just feel smart. The positives of either though diminished very quickly. At the 3rd day I took 20mg IR Adderall and was stimulated (being awake) for less than a few minutes before I was taking micronaps every few minutes and dozing off a few times.
 
When "I" say I get no effects under 'x' mg I mean that I might as well have not taken anything. When I take that 75mg however, I can FEEL it. I can feel that my brain has been switched on, that I can get shit done. Oh man - the Doc JUST called - my script is ready for pick up ! Hell YES ! IR's are currently 'real' - hilarious. Be back later....and will report my feelings regarding IR vs XR!
 
I've taken now 70mg adderall IR, and it seems that IR effects me differently than XR : XR hits me harder - what do you all think? Depressicaa ?

I feel GREAT though. It's like a 360 from this morning pre-pharmacy run+dosing. Tomorrow I guess I'll know more about it (if I can sleep tonight). Tell me more about your experiences with L tyrosine? I have been thinking about getting some of that. I've already added extra B12 and Magnesium supplements to my daily diet - neither of which are noteworthy, I just read that they'd be a good idea. *shrug*
 
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Depressicaa said:
Woamotive its not very hard try to ask for the equivilent dose. I know that Adderall 30XR has about 18.x(3?) mg amphetamines while Dexedrine 15mg has... 15 haha. I find that I have to take more Dexedrine to feel any effect though, Adderall is also physically stimulating (but I like it I guess, most people don't).


What is roughly the effect that it has on you? I'm not sure what you mean when you say no effect from 80mg. Do you get insomnia?


Thanks!
My experience with Adderall is that it is better to stay up on since you feel energetic and not just feel smart. The positives of either though diminished very quickly. At the 3rd day I took 20mg IR Adderall and was stimulated (being awake) for less than a few minutes before I was taking micronaps every few minutes and dozing off a few times.
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I've never done adderal, it seems to be really hard to find in canada ( I believe the XR is banned even) but I find dexedrine to be very much energizing while not 'twitchy' at all. I always want to go on an adventure when I'm on it, on meth I always get sidetracked doing stupid shit.
 
woamotive said:
I've taken now 70mg adderall IR, and it seems that IR effects me differently than XR : XR hits me harder - what do you all think? Depressicaa ?

I feel GREAT though. It's like a 360 from this morning pre-pharmacy run+dosing. Tomorrow I guess I'll know more about it (if I can sleep tonight). Tell me more about your experiences with L tyrosine? I have been thinking about getting some of that. I've already added extra B12 and Magnesium supplements to my daily diet - neither of which are noteworthy, I just read that they'd be a good idea. *shug*
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What brand is it? Barr is the only manufacturer of XR, and I had the same feeling, I hope you aren't using CorePharmas.
 
Tolerance seems to be more mental than physical with amphetamines. If you relate to your tweaked self more than reality, you will notice a tolerance. (Want to fill the gaps of reality you don't want to experience with tweaking.) I was on dexedrine for five years at 40mg a day, used as need to party and cram. Days on off binges etc. I never noticed a tolerance until two years in. Even then it wasn't bad, just up the dose, add some benzos to de stress, trip to de-ego from all the tweaking.

But

The body cannot sustain being tweaked for a long time, no matter how much (or proper) the supplementation. The static state of fight or flight caused by amphetamines prevent growth, all bodily systems do not perform their normal functions as they are diverted to energy production.

too much stress for too long, I needed higher doses to get the effects I wanted, but soon the cons began to outweigh the pros

so 2 years to begin noticing the cons of tolerance, then 4 years till it was ineffective and all side effects
 
Depressicaa said:
I think that Adderall tolerance is way overblown.

It isn't anything as bad as people say it is. The only times that Adderall stops being useful is after I've been up for several days. Thats when it stops being fun, and doesn't even keep me up. I took a break for four days and it was stimulating at even a very low dosage.

I used to religiously take Magnesium everyday, but now I think that it doesn't really help with tolerance at all. It seems to help with sleep and the side effects of Adderall but in no way did I feel my Adderall tolerance get higher when I didn't take it.

L-Tyrosine seems to be a nice addition to it, and doesn't overstimulate me as many people claim it does (not calling them liars just doesn't do that for me).

Baking soda can always re-stimulate me if there are any amphetamines left in my system, and seems to be useful for feeling a little boost.

I'm taking a low maintenance dose everyday, and it doesn't seem to get any better or worst. I'm taking sub-euphoric levels several times per day, but a regular euphoric dose still works for me.

Your thoughts?
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uhh, how long have you been taking adderall? it's definitely easy to develop a tolerance. i don't think you've been on adderall long enough, but you'll see.
 
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