How soon is it safe to use Ketamine, after stimulants?

[GeeMeeUpp]

I know that the two should never be mixed due to complications, but because of time constraints this weekend I want to get the 2 both in during a single day. Whats the minimum time you would advise I wait before dosing the K, after say 200mg of eaten Mephedrone? Also has anyone ever done this, and what were the results?

 

[kunmo]

I have done the opposite... IF this helps:

I did about 3-4 line of ketamine and then about 5-7 hours later my friend busted out some coke and i did about .6 -.7of a G. The k was worn off and i didnt have an issue of a mixed high or an OD....

 

[Bella Figura]

I wouldn't have thought K is that dangerous to mix with a stimulant...

I've mixed it with Speed and MDMA and know some people here probably mixed it with Meph too. If you're worried about it then just wait till you're coming down from the Meph before dipping into it

Alternatively don't bother with the Meph and stick to Ket

 

[GeeMeeUpp]

Alternatively don't bother with the Meph and stick to Ket

Lol, I totally know what you're saying. Its too bad my hands being forced on this one Thanks for the info so far, although I not too sure I'm comfortable with mixing, nor in fact do I think it would be enjoyable. I actually know someone who died from this combination, although I don't the doses involved, and they had also been drinking. If only they'd have come here.

On another note, how long should I wait for K, after GHB? I reckon that could be more of an issue. Thoughts?

 

[HorseyP]

Lol, I totally know what you're saying. Its too bad my hands being forced on this one Thanks for the info so far, although I not too sure I'm comfortable with mixing, nor in fact do I think it would be enjoyable. I actually know someone who died from this combination, although I don't the doses involved, and they had also been drinking. If only they'd have come here.

On another note, how long should I wait for K, after GHB? I reckon that could be more of an issue. Thoughts?

I have mixed high doses of mdma and ket and found that to be enjoyable with no ill effect. I believe there may be more of a problem when mixing meph and ket though (have also mixed v large doses of these though before i was was aware there might be an issue). The two dont mix all that well, the drone ruins the k.

 

[Shambles]

^ Agree that meph and ket just don't mix well. Some like it apparently but too messy and headfucky for me.

As Whore mentioned, I'm not aware of ket being especially dangerous to mix with stims. I once spent an entire week shooting ketamine and MDPV "speedballs" around the clock with no problems at all. Have also combined it with MDMA and speed many times and, although I've never tried it, I know that "CK" (cocaine and ket) is a very popular combo indeed. At worst I find it can take the trip down to some very dark places indeed - that "speedball" week leaps to mind but dark as it was (and it got very dark indeed) it was also one of the best learning experiences I've ever had. Ket + MDMA is divine though. Yum

As for mixing with G, it's actually a combo I'm very fond of but it can also be risky. You need to be very careful with your doses cos that combo can and will drop you like a sack o' shit. Have heard (anecdotally) of people dying from that combo. I'd give it a minimum of 1-2 hours to avoid serious interactions but ideally a bit longer - maybe 3-4 hours or even longer.

 

[phatass]

i used to take bumps of Ket when i was rolling... then for the come-down i'd keep minimum half a gram...

another example is the famous "CALVIN KLEIN" (Coke and Ket mixed together) which i've done my fare share of and i'm still here....

mephedrone on the other hand is far more bad for the heart and the brain than coke or MDMA, but if you wait till you're coming down on the mephedrone, i wouldn't worry about taking ketamine... just keep the dosage reaonable

 

[GeeMeeUpp]

mephedrone on the other hand is far more bad for the heart and the brain than coke or MDMA,

I know this is off topic, but I had been lead to believe there wasn't any substantial evidence that Mephedrone is any harder on the brain than MDMA. Am I misunderstood?

Thanks for all the answers so far, I now think I might do things the other way around, and go for k, and then GHB with Mephedrone 2-3 hours later. Should be an interesting evening, perhaps even worthy of a trip report !